Nintendo ditches main E3 conference, still there with games, press events, N-Direct
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StreetsAhead
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A few thousand are viewing live. Iwata's presentation mentions that their videos are accumulating hundreds of thousands of views, mostly through the eShop.
Pretty much where I'm at. I think the idea is a good one, but the question is can they pull it off.
Lapidus' Beard
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Who needs E3 when we have Nintendo Directs? Face it, they're more fun to watch anyway.
They announced more details/infos about 3D Mario, Mario Kart and Smash Bros. I guess you completely missed that. They could also show (based on what we already know) X, W101, Bayonetta 2 and yes Zelda. We know basically jackshit about the changes they made.
Edit: Beaten like someone else.
so looking at nintendo's official youtube page the direct's got about 100-almost 600 thousand views...not sure if this includes people watching it multiple times or not but that seems pretty high.
their e3 direct last year has almost 1million views again not sure if it counts multiple views etc.
that's just on youtube. does this even include their ehop/facebook/ustream viewers as well?
just trying to get more clarification on the direct's viewership
their e3 direct last year has almost 1million views again not sure if it counts multiple views etc.
that's just on youtube. does this even include their ehop/facebook/ustream viewers as well?
just trying to get more clarification on the direct's viewership
Jezbollah
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Since when has one of the "big three" (in whatever iteration) NOT given an E3 press conference 8 months after they have released a home console?
For them to ditch a press conference (aimed at thet masses - and not just the press or trade people - we all know that E3 is aimed for the public in terms of exposure) when Nintendo's issues with the Wii U is all about perception and the requirement to raise profile, my thoughts are of one word:
Capitulation.
For them to ditch a press conference (aimed at thet masses - and not just the press or trade people - we all know that E3 is aimed for the public in terms of exposure) when Nintendo's issues with the Wii U is all about perception and the requirement to raise profile, my thoughts are of one word:
Capitulation.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
No, youtube doesn't count other sites' views, obviously. Plus there are different directs for USA/EU/Japan so that further divides the numbers for each. Not to mention unofficial re-uploads and what not.
I can read just fine, let's review again.
You clearly state that you watch E3 conferences for the experience.
You give an example about watching an event without giving a shit about the content of said event.
You give an example of intentionally avoiding Nintendo Directs which feature game and hardware announcements without the pomp and circumstance.
You then cap it off by saying that you don't care about Nintendo, and thus don't care about the content on the presentation beyond the showmanship.
2 + 2 = 4
peanutbutterlatte
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Good. Less dissapointment and Reggie fluff.
First of all, it sucks that they won´t be having their usual E3 conference. But, they will be at E3 and reveal games. Don´t get why they divided into smaller events, but I guess we will see.
This is what I read from OP. Nothing about ND. Am I missing something or are we just assuming it will be a Nintendo Direct?
This is what I read from OP. Nothing about ND. Am I missing something or are we just assuming it will be a Nintendo Direct?
You don't seem to be comprehending. They are ditching the format. Not the announcements. They will still very much address the masses through directs, well, directly. They are trying not to dilute the message by aiming at all different segments of the market in one holistic event and instead address each individually.
then it seems the directs actually reach a much larger audience, at least that's the impression i'm getting.
if sony get millions of views for their ps4 unveil a few months back through advertising it online, i don't see why nintendo couldn't essentially do the same thing...perhaps work out some deal with gaming sites like ign, kotaku etc.
edit:
just saw your edit..from my initial look i didn't see very many other users uploading the ND videos, but i could be wrong.
Silent_Ocarina
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The excerpt in the original post immediately follows a quote from Iwata on the success of Nintendo Direct. Also, Nintendo Direct has been described as a means of Nintendo "directly" communicating with fans, specifically those at home. Presumably, there will be one during E3.
There's more info at the link. Nintendo is dividing the big presentation into smaller events in order to target specific groups.
Alexios
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Yeah, they did that, but at least they didn't show their new consoles at Nintendo Direct, wanna know why? Cos nobody would watch that!
Glass Rebel
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What I take from this: Nintendo's last few E3 keynotes have been shit while the NDs have been almost exclusively great. I'm fine with this.
3DS XL is asking you politely to pipe down.
timetokill
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Every time I heard about the Wii from the non-core audience, it was because of an appearance on a talk show or in a magazine or on a news station.
It was never because they watched the E3 conferences. They barely know what E3 even is.
The core gamers will all hear about Nintendo's stuff regardless of whether they do a fucking presentation. the vast, vast majority of people, gamers included, don't watch them. They get the info elsewhere, in a way they want to digest it.
It was never because they watched the E3 conferences. They barely know what E3 even is.
The core gamers will all hear about Nintendo's stuff regardless of whether they do a fucking presentation. the vast, vast majority of people, gamers included, don't watch them. They get the info elsewhere, in a way they want to digest it.
They have something like five games to show for Wii U, they have no third party support to show, they've already blown their load with 3DS announcements for the financial year and they have no sales figures worth celebrating.
So you're looking at a handful of new games we haven't seen and a load of stuff we've already seen strung out over 90-180 minutes. This is not a good idea.
Nintendo are doing E3 small this year because they have no other choice. This is a corner they have backed themselves into and this is the best way out.
I don't buy the "E3 conferences don't matter!" bullshit because they've mattered enough in the past and I don't buy the "They want to control the message" argument either because if you can't control the message coming from your own pre-planned, scripted stage show then you really have bigger problems with PR and product development than "stage show or YouTube?"
Nintendo are going small because they are now, in the scheme of things, small. Microsoft and Sony will have the weight of their own software and that of every single third party in the world behind them. Nintendo are on their own.
An E3 conference makes no sense for them, not because E3 conferences don't matter or because Nintendo Direct is better, but because it can do nothing but damage them to be compared to their competitors.
Nintendo gave us cool shit back in January and again just a couple of days ago. We haven't seen or heard much about the games coming to Wii U so there's still a lot we do not actually know about. Some of these games may not even coming out in 2013, particularly Smash Bros and X.
We haven't seen anything significant from Bayonetta 2.
We haven't seen any footage of Wind Waker Remake.
We saw very brief footage of Yoshi's Epic Yarn.
We haven't seen any screenshots or footage of Super Mario 3D,Mario Kart, or Smash Bros 4.
We only know about Fire Emblem X Shin Megami in name only.
We haven't seen that much of X. We don't even know what the faces of the playable characters look like. We also don't know the game will be as big as Xenoblade's.
Iwata mentioned there's some unannounced Wii U titles planned for an end-of-year 2013 release, but we don't know any other info on it.
We don't know any new plans for updating NintendoTvii or details about the Summer system update.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Right, because I'm being serious in that a Sony or Microsoft platform wasn't at a Nintendo Direct for that reason...
Elwood Blues
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It would also be a pretty stupid move for Nintendo too.
BurnOutBrighter
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Yes. Like I said before, do not underestimate the power of a media event.
I never watch football (soccer). I never watch the Premier League, or the UEFA whatevers.
But I always watch the FIFA World Cup. I watch all of the games for the quarterfinals onward and any big games in the pool phases. And so do billions of other people who aren't normally football fans.
Why? Because they know that lots of people will be watching it as well. They know that something big is happening and they want to be a part of it. They know that people will be talking about it and they want to be able to say what they thought about it.
Why do you think Apple hypes up an event for their next phone? Why do protest groups schedule their rallies at the same time as much larger events? Why does Ubisoft make announcements for announcements of the next Assassin's Creed game?
Because it gets people talking. It gets people tweeting. It gets hundreds of replies on GAF threads for things where no details have even been announced!
Marketers can't buy publicity like that. And luckily for them, they don't have to.
It is for Gaf so im not surprised by the replies.
I think it has more to do with the fact that the Nintendo Directs didn't exist back then. If they were to announce it now I could see it coming via Nintendo Direct.
Officerrob
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Good luck with that
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
They wouldn't do that anyway, they will announce them for a given time like a normal conference. Likely the same time they will hold the press event.
Elwood Blues
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I can't even tell if you're serious. Comparing the World Cup to E3? I need to go to bed.
Jezbollah
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How many who get their information from E3 read every single article and announcement?
The headlines are made on the first day, after the big three do their conference, which is usually streamed to many thousands of people globally. That is the format they have decided to ditch. Why do that when their main issue is getting the word out that the Wii U is a console worth buying, unless they dont have enough to provide that message?
If you think there is no interest to see Nintendo's foray into hd with some of their 8-digit selling franchises for the first time, sorry to say, but you are a little confused.
You speaking in absolutes like this without exactly knowing what they are planning to do is a little premature.
That's not equitable at all. Hardware refresh vs. new hardware? Come on now, don't be disingenuous.
amongst a sea of shit, one good post.
PS you only need to go into the wiiu screen shot thread to see why they want to avoid direct comparison.
You watched the PS4 livestream. You will watch the X720 livestream. ND is a livestream.
I wonder where these 3DS announcements have been made..
StreetsAhead
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Given how much reaction this news has generated in the few hours since it was announced, given that E3 will be on, and that whatever they do will potentially replace the conference anyway, what difference does it make? I mean it. The fact that it's not live means nothing. The information, the people, the everything will be the same. If people chose not to watch it, because of that arbitrary reason, well bully to them.
Why can't a Nintendo Direct focusing on games be as much hyped, if not more, than a live press conference?
You seemed to miss they will also host an event exclusively for the press. The headlines will derive from that. People globally will watch the direct stream.
Glass Rebel
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Most keynotes by other companies have been shit as well, despite nice announcements.
Jezbollah
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I sincerely hope that you're right. But I feel the combination between the format that Nintendo have ditched and the new platform announcements by Sony and MS will render such headlines away from the front pages, so to speak.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Platform unveils would attract more interest even with a normal E3 conference. Still I don't imagine the press will somehow forget to report on the Nintendo press event just as they wouldn't forget a conference.
People are not saying this Direct will be oh so amazing for sure, we don't know what they have, they're just saying it will have the same overall effect as a conference because they will have the same information a conference would, just presented in a different way, live for the journalists and with a direct for the rest of the world, plus whatever supplementary things they have we don't care about like the retailer events.
Those will all be on the same outlets a conference would be.
They aren't going to get any less press than they would if they had a traditional conference.
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