Domstercool
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My main problem with this is
1 lack of gifs
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But what if it's full of oranges and bananas and weird things like that? I'm sure gifs will be made.
Nintendo ditches main E3 conference, still there with games, press events, N-Direct
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But what if it's full of oranges and bananas and weird things like that? I'm sure gifs will be made.
Anticitizen One
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Major gaming news sites like ign are already running with the "no Nintendo e3 press conference this year" headline insinuating that they aren't going to be at e3 at all just like I thought
Gamefaqs is in prison riot mode
Gamefaqs is in prison riot mode
The only thing I'd miss if they go with this is crowd reaction when they announce games out of nowhere like Metroid: Other M - or when they announced Zelda TP
Did you even read what Iwata said? You just want to think of Nintendo in the worst way possible, it's fucking annoying - I mean look at your post history for once, do you notice anything?
Did you even read what Iwata said? You just want to think of Nintendo in the worst way possible, it's fucking annoying - I mean look at your post history for once, do you notice anything?
Petrae
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I would have loved to have seen a re-roll of the Wii U.
Fils-Aime: "Just like you, we read message boards every day.
'Wii U is dead.'
'Wii U won't sell.'
'What is Nintendo doing?'
We read these things, and we understand that there's work to be done. Here at Nintendo, we're ready to show you-- today-- that the Wii U is far from dead. We're here to show you why Wii U will sell strong this year and into the future. And we're here to show you that, yes, we do know what we're doing."
Then roll it out. Show video. Show us live demos on stage. Tell us that the games are not only in the building, but on the show floor and ready to amaze.
That's what I would have done. But, again, I'm not Satoru Iwata, nor am I Reggie Fils-Aime.
mysteriousmage09
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
What did you expect? It obviously brings the clicks given the heated discussion here.
I'm sure they'll still attend the event Nintendo will invite them to however. But hits during E3 aren't hits now so why not make a headline to generate them?
They still state everything in detail in the article and there's nothing anyone could misunderstand about Nintendo being or not being at E3 2013 if they actually read it.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Sounds more like hes describing sony
Anticitizen One
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What? Of course I read everything are you sure you read what I wrote correctly?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's not like the IGN headline is incorrect.
Recalling the last conferences of Nintendo, is really so surprising? But this not only a Nintendo issue. This could have been the E3 where PS4 and the next Xbox would be presented and where Nintendo would have unveil Wind Waker HD, A Link to the Past 2, the new 3D Mario, the new Mario Kart and X, from Monolith, for example.
The three have ditched E3, in one way or another. With de Nintendo Directs isn't a surprise what have just happened. The great conferences are no important to the general media, and that´s what E3 is now about, not the gamers. They will be informed anyway, but now it's important get a mention in the non-gaming press, specially TV.
The three have ditched E3, in one way or another. With de Nintendo Directs isn't a surprise what have just happened. The great conferences are no important to the general media, and that´s what E3 is now about, not the gamers. They will be informed anyway, but now it's important get a mention in the non-gaming press, specially TV.
Iwata *laughs*
I mean this is the prime example of not even trying anymore. I've been and remain a fan of Nintendo's certain first party games, but Nintendo as a company is a real disappointment through and through.
I'm mean it, not even trying anymore is insulting even to the most loyal fans.
I mean this is the prime example of not even trying anymore. I've been and remain a fan of Nintendo's certain first party games, but Nintendo as a company is a real disappointment through and through.
I'm mean it, not even trying anymore is insulting even to the most loyal fans.
Always-honest
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They just need to show games, games, games.
Oh! c'mon that would be no E3 without Sony montages! At this point they are like classics of E3. (><)
GetemMa
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Do you really expect gaming news to NOT do the same kind of headline when Nintendo announces his presentation schedule for E3 ?
TheDarkKnight774
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Whether or not it makes more practical sense (I'm still not sure) it does give the appearance that they are retreating. Also there's value in a live event, IMO. When it works it can be way more effective then just releasing a launch trailer online or in a ND. And really the live E3 presser has evolved into an event for the gamers more so than the press. It's shown on TV, and streamed everywhere. So I think they should have just continued to move the investment info and presses to the private closed meetings they always have and make the live event into what the NDs are but still have the value of an event with enthusiastic crowds, etc.
lol fake kaz is best kaz
Anticitizen One
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I'm. Not sure I understand what Reggie's role at the company is anymore if Iwata is running the NA branch and they will be focusing more on Nintendo direct and less on actual press events
Yeah because Sony is the one putting out endless half assed rehashes of old Ips and nothing else.
Ninty Legend
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How do you know that they stopped trying? If anything, it's obvious they have to try harder now to get exposure for their flagging new system (and ramp up excitement for the 3DS' second half of the year). I'm skeptical about what this new approach means for their products as E3, but I wouldn't dismiss it as an admission of defeat.
StreetsAhead
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Nope. Sony puts out endless amount of new IPs no one wants instead.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Personally i tbink that this is an admittal of defeat by Nintendo. while everyone is being shortsighted and talking about nintendo directs, no one is think about the hype the press generates amongst casual and nongamers.
It may be great news for hardcore and Nintendo fans, but I dont think Nintenddo directs are well enough established yet.
With Sony and M$ really talking up their consoles this year. Nintendo needed a concetrated drop of everything they have coming in the pipeline.
It may be great news for hardcore and Nintendo fans, but I dont think Nintenddo directs are well enough established yet.
With Sony and M$ really talking up their consoles this year. Nintendo needed a concetrated drop of everything they have coming in the pipeline.
I can see their point but.. the prestige, will never be the same.
No actually i don't know, when you take in consideration not everyone was watching the conf live, but the major party of gamer were seeing news and vids of game after that.. It won't change a lot.
But still in a way it will give the feeling they are totally out of the Sony/Microsoft war.
No actually i don't know, when you take in consideration not everyone was watching the conf live, but the major party of gamer were seeing news and vids of game after that.. It won't change a lot.
But still in a way it will give the feeling they are totally out of the Sony/Microsoft war.
I mean they are not even trying anymore to make a good E3 show, a glorious press conference of Megaton proportions. Wasn't the first megaton Nintendo related?
You see, I would really love if Nintendo continued that, really going in showing what they got on the big stage.
This is what E3 is all about for me. Not delivering on that front is to me like they are not even trying to impress. Nintendo Directs are a cool thing, but they are no replacement for the E3 show.
I understand what you mean and I can totally see this happening. It would leave a pretty big impact in the gaming community.
Immediately is a synonym of directly, right? I know where this is going!
Yeah, what a failure games like Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Heavy Rain, Dermon´s Souls and others have been this gen.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Your right they do have new ips like gran i mean drive club. My bad.
Any news announced at a ND still filters into mainstream press just as well as it would have from a proper e3 presentation.
Not to forget theyre still present with demos etc AT e3 itself, where mainstream press also attends to be able to report on them.
Only difference really is for us more loyal followers, we don't get the live audience and applauses etc.
Tricky I Shadow
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Trying their hardest to be as irrelevant as possible.
StreetsAhead
Member
Uncharted as a franchise has sold less than the first Wii Fit game. Your argument is shaky at best.
He's there to kick ass and take names
Bill Rizer
Member
Well, not too bad; Nintendo hasn't got a conference right for some years now.
I remember the year Mario Galaxy was announced, it wasn't even aknowledged on the conference stage, it only appeared for some seconds in a rolling montage with people totally clueless of what it actually was.
Than we got the Wii Music shame and then nothing at all, pratically... better doing nothing than another underwhelming exploit.
I remember the year Mario Galaxy was announced, it wasn't even aknowledged on the conference stage, it only appeared for some seconds in a rolling montage with people totally clueless of what it actually was.
Than we got the Wii Music shame and then nothing at all, pratically... better doing nothing than another underwhelming exploit.
Yes yes, dropping one conference is really making them irrelevant lol.
fabricated backlash
Member
We're having E3 Meltdowns in April... goes to show that Nintendo still has some clout to pull at peoples heartstrings.
In the end, we lose a potentially great (but likely boring) conference and get a games focused ND, and dedicated press event that will yield detailed hands on impressions and better video footage of games and gameplay.
I personally think that E3 should be about celebrating games, and a conference makes sense as such. Meh, we'll see. I'd expect them to go bananas on the production values for the game Direct though.
In the end, we lose a potentially great (but likely boring) conference and get a games focused ND, and dedicated press event that will yield detailed hands on impressions and better video footage of games and gameplay.
I personally think that E3 should be about celebrating games, and a conference makes sense as such. Meh, we'll see. I'd expect them to go bananas on the production values for the game Direct though.
Petrae
Member
That's one possible perception. If press runs with it, the effects would be negative. It almost comes off as cowardly.
On the other hand, Nintendo is exceptionally confident in its Direct method of delivery. The company feels that it has enough reach, and will target certain key members of the press to carry the torch for them in its intimate press event during the show.
If Nintendo fans and the company are right, mainstream press coverage is overrated and won't have much effect as more targeted and handpicked coverage. The Nintendo Direct events will be advertised heavily by Nintendo and the Internet will be the company's greatest weapon. If they're wrong, it could be another holiday season where the U in Wii U stands for Ugly, or Unwanted. We'll have to wait and see.
Thrillhouse
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Even the daily mainstream press here in distant Europe usually follow E3 quite exstensivly.
GetemMa
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This is a smart move. E3 is dying anyway.
The news will filter out into the mainline media in the same way. Nintendo fan boys like myself will watch the many small presentations and the casual fans they need will get that information in the same way they always have, filtered down from the main stream press. It isn't like much of casual audience watches E3, or ever did.
The news will filter out into the mainline media in the same way. Nintendo fan boys like myself will watch the many small presentations and the casual fans they need will get that information in the same way they always have, filtered down from the main stream press. It isn't like much of casual audience watches E3, or ever did.
I know that Nintendo was very successful with their shovelware and Mini game collections in the Wii days but that´s not really the point here. I am talking about real games.
GetemMa
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This comment is Streets Ahead.
While Sony's first party IP is mainly, Streets Behind.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well gone head. Tell us bout them real games?
StreetsAhead
Member
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about reality and not whatever arbitrary definitions you ascribe.
TalesOfWin
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not pointless if you want to be in the limelight once a year.
He probably cried when Bayonetta 2 got announced, since they stole one of his games.
Wait, does Nintendo legitimately think that doing small press events and Nintendo Directs are going to get their products into the consumer's eyes? I don't know any people apart from hardcore gamers or Nintendo fans that watch Directs. Meanwhile I know tons of friends who only get gaming information from E3 conferences (either on TV, streams, consoles, or exerts on YouTube). The audiences of Nintendo Directs vs E3 are completely different in terms scope.
It seems more like Nintendo knows they can't compete with Sony/MS and are backing into a corner to pretend they aren't competition (which they are). This is only going to make things worse imo. Average consumers are going to know about (or hear from all the E3 buzz) Sony's and MS's new consoles and no one will know what Nintendo is doing unless they actively search it out. .:/
It seems more like Nintendo knows they can't compete with Sony/MS and are backing into a corner to pretend they aren't competition (which they are). This is only going to make things worse imo. Average consumers are going to know about (or hear from all the E3 buzz) Sony's and MS's new consoles and no one will know what Nintendo is doing unless they actively search it out. .:/
How's that a smart move? Do you know any gamer not watching 3 big E3 pcs? Because I don't know one. Of course news will make to the media one way or another, it's not quite the same as having all in one place with millions watching. Don't see how you can argue with that.
Iwata is and will remain in Japan; he can't handle the day to day operations or communicate with retailers and American suppliers the way Reggie can. If anything, his role should expand, but that's for that thread.
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