ARROW |OT| Green Arrow TV series on CW

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This is how I feel whenever anybody approaches me, period.

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Once I heard Bludhaven, I was hoping the episode would end and the next would have NIGHTWING teamup :(

I doubt it but im getting hyped for it. especially after watching the dull new Teen Titans Go and seeing them trounce all over the Batembargo.


edit:not sure if I want to keep my new avatar or not.
 
Wow they really made Ollie look like a trust fund brat. Good stuff.

lol @ Diggs being a thorned girlfriend who just wants an apology.

MYGAWD Felicity, just own me please!

Every episode should be Felicity heavy, or Shado heavy.
 
so even in a cartoon they can't use Nightwing or whatever?
Yeah, in JL they weren't allowed to use Nightwing, Batgirl or other major Bat characters, in Teen Titans they weren't allowed to use Batman or others besides Dick Grayson at all(Nightwing did appear in 1 episode of TT).

Teen Titans Go the first two episodes alone have multiple pictures of Batman, TDKR Bane and Ra's al Ghul and even the Batmobile
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Hope its a sign that its over for good.
We don't need Batman imo he would overshadow Green Arrow,
but Nightwing maybe Ra's & Cassandra would be a perfect fit imo.
 
Ollie really needs to redouble the stubble. For much of his present day screen time I was unable to mentally separate him from Oliver "pizza guy couldn't break a hundred" McDouche Queen.
 
Felicty was a riot in this episode. Laurel really pales in comparision to the awesomeness that Felicity is.

Also..damn...Olie was so brutal today. This is why can threaten people in a way Batman never could.
 
Felicty was a riot in this episode. Laurel really pales in comparision to the awesomeness that Felicity is.

Also..damn...Olie was so brutal today. This is why can threaten people in a way Batman never could.

:( fuckin nolan hiring a bunch of turds for the batman fight choreography. he should have been fighting like this! not the damn green arrow, but i'll take good fight scenes wherever i can get them

nolan sucks at action and making batman look like a stiff frankenstein is proof enough

episode thoughts:
-fuuuuck felicity is so adorable. that "inside me" line lmao
- god damn at that raid fight, pretty blatant ripoff but it was beautiful nonetheless
- so happy oliver reunited with diggle before the end
- best episode since odyssey, it would have been propelled even further if they included slade and shado but there was no room for sure
- wtf it looks like they're stealing the batman begins finale setup here. down to the fucking box pretty much
- laurel looked really hot in the flashbacks
- no dumbass jon cena roy harper in this episode. made it even better.
 
Damn, I wish every episode was like this one. The pacing was amazing! I love how this show rarely has "filler episodes" and the writers aren't afraid to move things forward because their thinking of 10 seasons down the line.

Last 2 are going to be great. Summer is going to be a grueling wait.
 
Damn, I wish every episode was like this one. The pacing was amazing! I love how this show rarely has "filler episodes" and the writers aren't afraid to move things forward because their thinking of 10 seasons down the line.

Last 2 are going to be great. Summer is going to be a grueling wait.

Right?! The pacing is really pretty impressive for a 22 episode a season show. Hope they can keep it like this. I also really hope S2 won't suffer the sophomore slump that is all too common.
 
Damn, I wish every episode was like this one. The pacing was amazing! I love how this show rarely has "filler episodes" and the writers aren't afraid to move things forward because their thinking of 10 seasons down the line.

Last 2 are going to be great. Summer is going to be a grueling wait.

I was really missing some island stuff though.
 
OH MY GOD

I just realized that Malcolm is BARROWMAN!

CAPTAIN JACK!!!!
How did I not notice this...in the past half year?

I have the biggest nerd chills right now!
 
OH MY GOD

I just realized that Malcolm is BARROWMAN!

CAPTAIN JACK!!!!
How did I not notice this...in the past half year?

I have the biggest nerd chills right now!
You don't stay here enough.

I mentioned it by the second episode really early on in the thread.

That man barely ages.
 
Normally I wouldn't notice, but the beauty standards on this show are so ridiculously high ...

Yeah, the beauty standards in this series is very silly, but it is a minor detail. I still do enjoy the series despite that. However, I think I would enjoy the series more if the beauty standards were more realistic.

The last episode was awesome when the Arrow beat the life out of those guards.
 
Speaking of Nightwing, I found this snippet on a comic book forum:

"Asked about other DC characters not directly related to Green Arrow could come to the Arrow series, specifically Nightwing, Cunningham said "There have been discussions, and the possibility of using those to launch spin-offs and start building a larger DC live-action TV world."

This was taken from the Newsarama livefeed of the C2E2 2013 DC panel, but Newsarama took the livefeed down so I can't link a source.

DC's own TV universe focusing on characters that are not popular enough to get their own film could be really cool.
 
Anyone else feel like Tommy had a decent makeover this episode? Slightly different hair + stubble (bastard stole it from Ollie) + better dressed? = much less wimpy Tommy. He was [very slightly] reminding me of Ewan McGregor.
 
Did i miss something and oliver doesn't care about people seeing his face anymore? because he got really close (like can you see me well now kind of close) a couple of times to people.
 
That was so good. So, so good. Ollie finally knows that his mother is a treacherous POS, Diggle is back on the team (ooooh yeah) and Felicity (so fine) proved herself and then some. Sure, the episode had a number of weak points (dat bulletproof suitecase), but it was great seeing Ollie back to his murderous ways.

Anyone else notice Katie Cassidy is gaining weight?
She's very, very beautiful, but she also has a bit of a short chin. That means that her face will get puffy as soon as she gains some weight. Guys can avoid that by growing a beard, but I don't think that's an option for her...

Edit: This episode was brought to you by Microsoft Surface™
 
Did i miss something and oliver doesn't care about people seeing his face anymore? because he got really close (like can you see me well now kind of close) a couple of times to people.

I thought the same thing...It's not like his face was covered or disguised in any way during the one interrogation scene outside of some minor green paint. You'd think he'd be a little more cautious considering everyone in the city knows who Oliver Queen is.
 
Did i miss something and oliver doesn't care about people seeing his face anymore? because he got really close (like can you see me well now kind of close) a couple of times to people.

I have only watched up until episode 8 I think? (first season) but like time after time he is just pulling his hood down in shots where there's security cameras right there(like dude, you're in a bank, not the best time to lower your hood), and just randomly showing his face to people that he shouldn't trust. I normally don't take that stuff too seriously in shows like this but I remember saying to myself multiple times "what the hell are you doing? its called a secret identity for a reason".
 
Excellent episode. The fight choreography was superb. The casino and apartment fights were just too fucking awesome. Murderous, pissed off Ollie is best Ollie.

So, what was awesome and what sucked:

Awesome:

The fights. Goddamn those were blood pumping.

Flashbacks. Malcolm and Robert were pretty interesting to see. And Frank's the one who killed Robert! Boom.

Felicity was stunning.

The plot is moving along very fast now. It's awesome. Ollie is on a collision course with Moira and Malcolm and it is gonna be awesome.

Confirmation on what they're planning for the Glades.

Walter's back!

THE RAID!

Sucked:

The Tommy/Laurel/Oliver drama. Just... stop. I hate it. I hate it. Boring as fuck. Seriously, a relationship between Oliver and Laurel would be so fucking weird in light of everything Oliver has done. She was better with Tommy. Goddammit Oliver, just lie to the poor woman.

Flashback Ollie's kind of a cock. I love him on the Island, but here, bleh.

Diggle being a whiner.

Hopefully Roy shoots some heroin and then picks up Thea for a date and then they crash into a telephone pole, killing them, and then some junkie dude (who's a much better actor) steals Roy Harper's identity and then he meets Ollie and they hook up (professionally, possibly sexually) and we have a not shitty side kick

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"It feels weird having you inside me."

A real Tobias Funke moment for Felicity right there.


Too funny. I had to rewind and make sure that's really what it said. All the shippers came at that moment.

This is how I feel whenever anybody approaches me, period.

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What is really weird is that he has no stubble here, but two minutes later, he has stubble again at John's apartment. Loooooooooool.

lol @ Diggs being a thorned girlfriend who just wants an apology.

MYGAWD Felicity, just own me please!

Every episode should be Felicity heavy, or Shado heavy.

Notes for next season. And lol @ Diggle.

:( fuckin nolan hiring a bunch of turds for the batman fight choreography. he should have been fighting like this! not the damn green arrow, but i'll take good fight scenes wherever i can get them

Yeah, the choreography in this CW show is light years beyond a superhero blockbuster. It's crazy. Loved the Raid fight near the end. That was some badass shit.

Felicty was a riot in this episode. Laurel really pales in comparision to the awesomeness that Felicity is.

Also..damn...Olie was so brutal today. This is why can threaten people in a way Batman never could.

I fucking loved it. Ollie was hardcore.

Every episode should start with them sparring shirtless. Slade can join in next season too.

Hear that Arrow producers? Give the people what they want. While you're giving Gunloc what he wants, why not do some shirtless sweaty training scenes with all the women?

Felicity is so goddamn sexy when she dresses up. Merlyn and Ollie are two sides of the same coin.

Yes to both. Though when you think about it... the Ollie is a mirror of the Dark Archer which technically existed first.

I have only watched up until episode 8 I think? (first season) but like time after time he is just pulling his hood down in shots where there's security cameras right there(like dude, you're in a bank, not the best time to lower your hood), and just randomly showing his face to people that he shouldn't trust. I normally don't take that stuff too seriously in shows like this but I remember saying to myself multiple times "what the hell are you doing? its called a secret identity for a reason".

Everyone's so sucked into the smouldering gaze they forget to look at the rest of his face.
 
What was with Tommy's 'angry-serious' look at Laurel. That looked stupid.

God, he's being such a twat. He's got no right to be angry with her.

Unless he's just trying to sell the douchebag angle so she leaves him alone. Him and Oliver are both doing the same thing, trying to make her happy by pushing her to the other guy.

Which is stupid.

Edit: io9's recap is up:

http://io9.com/arrow-teaches-us-that-its-always-worse-than-we-imagin-486740111

This is not the episode to watch when you're emotionally vulnerable. Even its unhappy secrets have unhappy secrets. It's lucky that we start off with a rare burst of levity when Ollie, roughing up and nabbing the computer of an criminal accountant, literally talk-spits on the guy. It makes me wonder how actors manage that awkward moment. Do they admit to it, since there's actual photographic proof that they, presumably, would have to watch? Or is it like real life, where, either after the take ends or during the scene, they desperately keep eye contact while the spittee wipes it away while looking as casual as a guy trying to bid at silent auction. What I'm saying is, that footage needs to be included in the first season DVD set.

The accountant provides Pandora's laptop, spilling a lot of secrets. It starts with the fact that a gambling den owner and general mobster got paid two million dollars on the day Walter got snatched. Felicity goes to his gambling den, with the plan to count cards until she's called into his office, where she'll place a bug. She didn't need to count cards to get attention; the woman goes into the underground casino dressed like a cross between a movie star from the '30s and a scarlet macaw. She exacerbates the problem by talking audibly into a earpiece to Ollie, stumbling through sexual innuendo until she finally says, "I should just stop talking." Ollie deadpans, "That would be my preference." Ha! That's the line of the episode right there, and it's good to see Ollie having fun, because he has to put on his devastation eyes for the rest of the hour.

This leads me to my terrible truth. I would never, ever say this to someone this actually happened to, and I understand the horror of the story. But if I were in her position? It seems that being shot, being rich, and having a functioning cell phone is a problem that solves itself pretty easily. Instead of calling my unresponsive husband, I might have considered calling 911, and then perhaps calling a local news station and saying, "I'm a billionaire, I'm at this location, and I've been shot. Ten million dollars to the person who gets me to a hospital." I'm just saying. It seems to me that there was a way out of that problem.

The bright spot of "The Undertaking" is Dig, who spent the episode modeling black tank tops and being completely right about everything, as Ollie tearfully confesses to him at the end. At least one character came out of this episode satisfied.
 
You know what would have been a better way to handle Tommy's downfall, since I guess it's inevitable?

So instead of Tommy being a giant vagina about Laurel possibly still loving Ollie or whatever - instead of that horseshit, he's a cool guy for pretty much the whole first season. He learns about Ollie's secret early on and he's pretty OK with it. He even helps Ollie out wherever he can. They're bros. They high five about arrowing random henchmen.

But then toward the end of the season, as Felicity and others keep telling Ollie's he's got to stop murdering people, Ollie has a change of heart. He wants to become a hero instead of just an insane murdermachine vigilante. He stops killing.

Tommy is not cool with this. He's been buying more and more into the idea of killin' scum, just like his dad, especially after thinking more about what happened to his mom (she was murdered, right?). He gets sadistic and weird and he starts pushing all his friends away, including Laurel. Then the finale hits, Ollie ends up killing Merlyn Sr. Tommy finds out who his dad was, what he was really all about, what he wanted to do to the glades. He snaps mentally and leaves to train to take his dad's place, hating the shit out Ollie.

Bam. No shitty relationship drama and Tommy's not an uninteresting limp penis of a character.
 
Tommy is quite the man in this case as well. He understands the chemistry between Ollie and Laurel, ESPECIALLY when you consider the near-affection Arrow got from her simply by protecting her. It does only take a little empathy to put 2+2 together and realize that their relationship is not on solid ground.

If not wanting to live in constant fear of losing her for the next few years while praying that Laurel never finds Olivers secret out is being a "vagina", then so be it.
 
If not wanting to live in constant fear of losing her for the next few years while praying that Laurel never finds Olivers secret out is being a "vagina", then so be it.

Vagina is maybe the wrong word for Tommy, because pretty much every woman on the show has more balls than him.
 
You know what would have been a better way to handle Tommy's downfall, since I guess it's inevitable?

So instead of Tommy being a giant vagina about Laurel possibly still loving Ollie or whatever - instead of that horseshit, he's a cool guy for pretty much the whole first season. He learns about Ollie's secret early on and he's pretty OK with it. He even helps Ollie out wherever he can. They're bros. They high five about arrowing random henchmen.

But then toward the end of the season, as Felicity and others keep telling Ollie's he's got to stop murdering people, Ollie has a change of heart. He wants to become a hero instead of just an insane murdermachine vigilante. He stops killing.

Tommy is not cool with this. He's been buying more and more into the idea of killin' scum, just like his dad, especially after thinking more about what happened to his mom (she was murdered, right?). He gets sadistic and weird and he starts pushing all his friends away, including Laurel. Then the finale hits, Ollie ends up killing Merlyn Sr. Tommy finds out who his dad was, what he was really all about, what he wanted to do to the glades. He snaps mentally and leaves to train to take his dad's place, hating the shit out Ollie.

Bam. No shitty relationship drama and Tommy's not an uninteresting limp penis of a character.

Isn't that exactly like the Green Goblin from Spiderman? Spidey killed the Goblin's dad too and then Goblin get's mad. I'm not entirely sure as I'm not familiar with the Spiderman comics and I haven't seen the movies in a long time.
 
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