I think if it does work out like that then I think it is a good deal since it is a bit more manageable.
BUT if you are able to still get XBL for like $40 if you look around then I don't think it is a good deal.
Thurott: $299 version of Xbox v.Next will come with a $15/mo XBLG sub, not $10
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I think if it does work out like that then I think it is a good deal since it is a bit more manageable.
BUT if you are able to still get XBL for like $40 if you look around then I don't think it is a good deal.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
It would still be cheaper to buy it at $500 and get a $60 annual XBL subscription.
gravitybear
Member
Does he say whether it's a 1 or 2 year commitment? Big difference there..
If they go PS+ like with Live then this would be just fine. Over the course of 2 years you pay a whole $40 extra dollars. $20 a year. $1.67 a month.
Do XBLG memberships get taxed though?
Two.
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Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
good to see MS getting in the poor tax game. Hopefully it works out like it does currently and only people that hate money buy a sub from Microsoft directly.
I guess around 580 for 2 years live and the console outright?
I guess around 580 for 2 years live and the console outright?
Beermeister
Banned
$659 for a Kinect machine... haha! Do it!
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I think everyone will be going for profit day one.
Nobody wants to lose $5 billion again.
demosthenes
Member
Can you even do that?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
The entire point of these kind of things is a lower upfront cost but paying more overtime. Pointing that our seems kinda redundant.
Personally I'm more likely to buy a $300 console with a subscription (one I'd inevitably pay anyway) than $500 up front and still paying a subscription of sort. Assuming they have a non subscription version.
Personally I'm more likely to buy a $300 console with a subscription (one I'd inevitably pay anyway) than $500 up front and still paying a subscription of sort. Assuming they have a non subscription version.
You'd definitely have to pay for Live still. I imagine they could include a free period of Gold though in the box. Whether that's a year or a month or something remains to be seen.
How do they enforce the 2 year contract? It's not like a phone where they just cut the line and then you cant make calls (becomes useless). Unless there is an online verification you could just refuse to pay after the first month and keep the console offline. Then continue to play games.
in Demark the Law makes it mandatory to write the FINAL price if you have a Subbed deal.
Chaplain
Member
Always On?
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
If $10 is the regular monthly fee that most people are already paying for XBLG, then in essence you're paying an extra $5 a month. Multiply that by 24 months, its an extra $120. If you were already dropping all that money on live anyway (I doubt your average XBL user waits for cheap XBL card deals like GAF), then you're looking at $420 for the final price (again, assuming you planned on paying $10 per month anyway).
a Master Ninja
Member
Of course. Much like subsidized phones, this is about appealing to people only thinking about the short term.
Figures, $10 did not sound realistic, when the alternative is priced at $499. I'm honestly just dumbfounded, how they have managed to set the entry price at this level. It leaves a giant opportunity for Sony to advertise their machine in a 'f2p'-esque manner that offers every basic feature for an initial investment of $399, allowing you to later buy different subscriptions for different levels of extra features e.g. ps+/gaikai.
Hope they haven't underestimated the effect of price and will proceed to surprise come late May. Of course, the loop-hole of advertising your product as 'starting from $299!' is extremely effective, and may provide them a solid counter-advantage.
Hope they haven't underestimated the effect of price and will proceed to surprise come late May. Of course, the loop-hole of advertising your product as 'starting from $299!' is extremely effective, and may provide them a solid counter-advantage.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I wouldn't be so sure. I'm not talking a big loss here, I'm talking one that might be covered by a single game or accessory purchase. That's assuming these parts are even expensive. No one here really knows. Maybe they could sell a SKU at $399 and have it not be a loss or break even.
Beermeister
Banned
£149 Wii U and the consumers still laugh.
Having worked at Best Buy before, you're giving your typical video game console purchaser waaaaaaaay too much credit.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
In the current subsidized one you get live with the payment, i dont see that changing.
Yeah, then they send you to collections for being so smart. You signed a contract saying you would pay it, you have to pay it.
Risk Breaker
Member
Hmmmm, wow.
What a deal!
What a deal!
Portugeezer
Member
For fucks sake, the point of this isn't to be cheaper than X720 + 2 years of XBLG so stop comparing it.
If it was hundreds more, then okay, but $40 difference is not worth noting over 2 years...
If it was hundreds more, then okay, but $40 difference is not worth noting over 2 years...
Because people can't do math?
Impeccable
Member
Good lord.
You're paying $30 more for the subsidized price than you'd pay otherwise. The feature set is irrelevant because it will be the same for both the $60/yr folks (plus who even pays that much) and the folks who buy the subsidized console
Schnozberry
Member
I'm pretty sure under the current subsidized model they can basically render your console useless if you don't pay up.
Pretty sure you can only operate the subsidized console for so many days disconnected from the Internet before it stops you from doing anything until you plug in. There are some horror stories from people who unknowingly bought subsidized consoles still under contract on Craigslist or whatever.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Aaaaand there it goes.
Grinchy
Banned
Hmm, that's a good question.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
This is what I figured it would be in the other thread.
It made absolutely no sense before since the subsidized model was cheaper than buying the full priced model.
It made absolutely no sense before since the subsidized model was cheaper than buying the full priced model.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Since I have no job, that's a terrible deal for me. :/
Shame
Shame
The Faceless Master
Member
if it was 1 year why would anyone buy it outright?
$500 + $120 for 2 years of XBL = $620
$300 + $180 + $60 = $540
$300 + $360 = $660
which one sounds realistic?
razgriz417
Member
Pretty obvious but the point of subsidized purchases isn't to save the consumer money, rather its for consumers that do not want to pay the lump sum price all at once. Like with cell phone contract subsidies, you pay more over the cost of the contract
but some people don´t have 499$ to spare for a new console (as a one time payment).. but they might have 299$ to spare, and then pay the rest over two years..
It´s a good deal for consumers and MS if you look at it rationally ..
outunderthestars
Banned
This. There is no way that previous pricing would have worked.
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