ugh
im not saying anyone is LITERALLY paying 5 dollars a month
nevermind, this is ridiculous
Thurott: $299 version of Xbox v.Next will come with a $15/mo XBLG sub, not $10
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ugh
im not saying anyone is LITERALLY paying 5 dollars a month
nevermind, this is ridiculous
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Same here. It's been nothing but doom and gloom. Everything I read about this thing so far has made me frown.
Mackenzie 92
Member
probably the first console gen that I opt out of. I'll just stick with my trusty pc, rarely have time/desire for games anymore anyway.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
No one cares because MS still getting your $15 per month
Ninja Moomin
Banned
Please show your breakdown of the BOM at the rates Sony can bulk buy parts and assemble in its own facilities?
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Its best to wait for confirmation on things like this.
eso76
Member
Well, since i'm paying for live anyway that is..
2 years of xbox live = 120 $
2 years of xbox live 720 subscription = 360$
so it's
499$ + 120$ = 619 $ (no subscription, optional 2 years of live)
299$ + 360$ = 659 $ (subscription, 2 years of live included)
so, either way, NOT committing to live is cheaper but not that much cheaper.
it's 40$ for 2 years financial rate, can't do more maths.
Heh. Might consider this.
2 years of xbox live = 120 $
2 years of xbox live 720 subscription = 360$
so it's
499$ + 120$ = 619 $ (no subscription, optional 2 years of live)
299$ + 360$ = 659 $ (subscription, 2 years of live included)
so, either way, NOT committing to live is cheaper but not that much cheaper.
it's 40$ for 2 years financial rate, can't do more maths.
Heh. Might consider this.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Right, so what's the issue? You can buy a non contract phone if you don't want to be tethered to a contract, just like you can buy a non contract Durango.
This is the option for those who can't or don't want to pay all the money upfront. Options are good, even if you don't agree with those options.
demosthenes
Member
A games console is now a luxury car.
I'm not saying it won't work, I was stating my opinion that I didn't like it.
Exactly, but you're comparing it to people LITERALLY paying $15 each month, not $180 for a year. If you pay for live monthly it is LITERALLY $10 each month. There is no option to pay $5 a month
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It is conceivable that UK pricing could be £229 with £10/mth based on this.
DragonSworne
Banned
Still around the same as the $500 model if you include XBLG.... :/
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
You can in the UK. What....do you guys not have Pay as You Go over there?
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Deleted member 47027
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It's up to the consumer to be intelligent about what they buy, and not live above their means. If you buy a car, lose your job and can't make payments, the car leaves you.
I only pay $35 or $40 max for my Xbox Live subscriptions.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Don't forget the two year warranty you'll get with the subsidised console. Unless they've stopped including those in the subbed package?
Impeccable
Member
This means poor people will choose the Xbox Infinite. I don't want to associate with all those peons.
Playstation 4 for me.
Playstation 4 for me.
brotherbean
Member
Nope, feels icky.
Even if it does lower the entry fee for people so inclined to take them up on it, I do not care for the subscription model that everything under the sun seems to be picking up these days.
Besides, I'm used to finding deals on Live for somewhere in the ballpark of $30-35 for 12 months, and I still think that's overpriced. I don't think I could feel good about paying $15 a month for it, regardless of the subsidization.
Even if it does lower the entry fee for people so inclined to take them up on it, I do not care for the subscription model that everything under the sun seems to be picking up these days.
Besides, I'm used to finding deals on Live for somewhere in the ballpark of $30-35 for 12 months, and I still think that's overpriced. I don't think I could feel good about paying $15 a month for it, regardless of the subsidization.
This thread is a lesson on why poor people remain poor.
I'd have to say that comparing this to phone contracts doesn't work out well because over the course of the contract you end up paying 2x-3x the price of the phone, not just $40 extra. At least in Canada it does. Yet people keeping paying an extra $40 every month for 3 years to reduce the initial cost by a few hundred dollars.
I'd have to say that comparing this to phone contracts doesn't work out well because over the course of the contract you end up paying 2x-3x the price of the phone, not just $40 extra. At least in Canada it does. Yet people keeping paying an extra $40 every month for 3 years to reduce the initial cost by a few hundred dollars.
demosthenes
Member
Bad phones and bad deals.
razgriz417
Member
Yup or ETF penalty if the dude that sells fails to pay, still has nothing to do with "Always Online" though
Colonel Nasty
Member
It's not that much more than than if you paid msrp. Especially compared to what people for contract phone versus no contract phone. Also, I'm pretty sure a family plan runs 100$ a year since it includes 4 subscriptions. They better make sure live has some compelling features to continue to charge though.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I'm starting to wonder the same thing. I thought Pay and Go was pretty much worldwide at this point.
Do you have any examples?
gaming_noob
Member
Exactly my point, brah! I can see how it may sway some weaker ones but overall that's not a legitimate argument.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
And i can say there is 0% chance MS already decided Durango's price
Look at Kinect,they doesn't announce the price until August because they wanna wait MOVE announce the price first
SneakyStephan
Banned
Balmer walks on stage and utters these words only: 659 US dollars.
Better get a third job.
Man for 659 smackeroos you can buy a kickass cpu+mobo+ram combo and an awesome gpu next year. Buy a few games and you're looking at over 1000 dollars to play on xbox, then after 2 years BAM another paywall to keep playing your games.
Aye, it's hilarious.
Better get a third job.
Man for 659 smackeroos you can buy a kickass cpu+mobo+ram combo and an awesome gpu next year. Buy a few games and you're looking at over 1000 dollars to play on xbox, then after 2 years BAM another paywall to keep playing your games.
Aye, it's hilarious.
rockman zx
Member
If $500 equal to 500, I will not buy it on day 1.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
That sucks. Almost every new phone release over here has a comparable PAYG offer with the phone sold at full price.
I used to be on PAYG for the longest time. Paying £400+ for iphones at that time hurt. A lot.
What the crap? I figured with them going all lovey-dovey with streaming media this was a shoe in for the next Xbox..... Wow.
So now I can't figure out what exactly Microsoft is doing. Let's see....
1) Development on games is at least 6 months behind. Check.
2) Pricing that is comparable to a Windows business model unit. Check.
3) Things that offer little value-add to end user for entertainment or gaming. Check.
Well, this truly is the Xbox Vista if I ever saw it.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
This guy been right yet?
statham
Member
3DO 4 life.
maabus1999
Member
I think this is the new way they are looking at the old hardware idea of "selling at a loss." They want to build a rapid user base this way, and just deal with the accounting pain, hoping it pays off.
They must be a little worried about consumers not paying, because you could go down to $199 and $20 a month, which is a much easier entry point for people.
Build a PC you pleb. The GeForce Titan is calling out to you.
sorry then i just dont get what u dont like
if u cant effort to pay the 500 price but u want that console...someone need to pay it for u ...i dont know if in this case is ms that for every 299 console go in loss...or some bank give them money and then they need to pay them back.....its clear like the sun u need to pay some money interest so u will pay more in the long run
if u have the money and u can spend 500 dollar just in one time just buy it...
this is an option ms is givin to the customers....and i find it a good option
maybe u know there r ppl around the world...that take 800 dollars monthly.and live with parents..and for them theres a big difference from 299 and 600 (or 500)
subsizing options is just somthing good...and i dont understand how ppl r turning this into a bad thing....bah
shinobi602
Member
Not a chance in hell I'd opt for that.
travisbickle
Member
A subsidised model right out of the gate seems strange, especially if they are going to associate the Live brand with the monthly cost.
On day one, you're going to have two consoles at different prices on store shelves, with two different prices for subscription to their online community, with one console being a mandatory 2 year subscription and one that doesn't need Live at all?
On day one, you're going to have two consoles at different prices on store shelves, with two different prices for subscription to their online community, with one console being a mandatory 2 year subscription and one that doesn't need Live at all?
Impeccable
Member
I have five Titans just because.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Honestly, this is going to move gaming in an interesting direction. Nintendo may be ok since they a.) are around this subsidized price already and b.) have very little to offer in terms of a monthly payment, but Sony is going to have to do something comparable to this, or they will get slaughtered. I know GAF seems to think this is terrible, but ultimately $40 extra over 2 years is going to go over like gangbusters (unless MS can't secure the titles people want).
this is not bad news
its called choice and choice is good. if you think this choice doesn't suits you you can buy the full price console
Bleedorang3
Banned
Not only not confirmed. It's squarely in wet dream status right now. The BOM for the PS4 is already estimated at around ~$450, and that is assuming they don't include the Eye in every SKU. So, unless Sony want to engage in yet another generation where they lose money for the first year or so it will be more.
Also, anyone who thinks that Sony won't also offer a similar financing model is a fool. Sorry for being blunt, but it would be monumentally stupid for them not to.
Listen, MS understands that any kind of long-term rip-off installment payment plan will sell like gangbusters.
Over the last 30 years, the American middle/lower class has embraced the credit model as their #1 means to keep up with the Joneses and this, combined with video game addiction, will allow MS to rake in the profits and, perhaps, increase their dominance in the American market.
Over the last 30 years, the American middle/lower class has embraced the credit model as their #1 means to keep up with the Joneses and this, combined with video game addiction, will allow MS to rake in the profits and, perhaps, increase their dominance in the American market.
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