Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

Status
Not open for further replies.
so you basically end up paying $360 over two years (15X24)

so the total cost of the console would be 299+360=660, with two years of live.

Normally live costs 60/year, so you'd in essence be paying 660-120=540 for the console, a $40 premium in exchange for financing. Not too horrible I suppose.

More interesting is that Thurrott speaks very specifically. These dont seem to be just ballpark figures, they imply he at least thinks he knows these as exact figures.

40$ isnt much for the financing. If this is true I'll be financing my new xbox while paying full price for a PS4.
 
So if MS will be showing the box at this event (with Major Nelson's comments on Sony's reveal, they must) then does that mean they're already in the build process or will it just be a shell to show to the public?
 
So if MS will be showing the box at this event (with Major Nelson's comments on Sony's reveal, they must) then does that mean they're already in the build process or will it just be a shell to show to the public?

It will be a shell

Even at E3, games will be running on devkits with PC hardware
 
I'm keeping an open mind and can't wait to see what they show... I just hope, like Sony, they also have listened to consumer base and Dev's and keep the console primarily about gaming.
 
Ugh this is going to bug me. Anyone have any idea what the last Xbox 360 trailer is? It's a trailer from like 05' or 06' and it has a English Rock song in it I think, similar to the Kaiser Chiefs one.
 
I don't think so. Judging from the leaked PDF, Microsoft expects Sony to launch in holiday 2013, just like they expected Nintendo to launch in holiday 2012.

That poses the question, Why are there reports they are 6 months behind? I mean if they were expecting this for 2 or 3 years, they surely would not be having to cancel internal games and shop 3rd party contracts. That is, if it's true.
 
That poses the question, Why are there reports they are 6 months behind? I mean if they were expecting this for 2 or 3 years, they surely would not be having to cancel internal games and shop 3rd party contracts. That is, if it's true.

There is the possibility of a spec bump, which I think did pose heating issues in the kits. The other rumor that popped up today is that Microsoft doesn't have the license or something like that for Blu-Ray playback yet.
 

Nah, that's awesome but I posted that last page:

Hey guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJZjHUmHEu0#t=7m52s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyaywUpGC1s

Fuck I can't find the last one. Does anyone remember what the song is in the one that's missing? It either came out in 05 or 06. It was a kick ass trailer like these two but I can't find it...

EDIT: Wait I think I know it! Wasn't there a trailer with Take Me Out - by Franz Ferdinand?
 
Parallel development makes sense if that was the strategy they STARTED with

You essentially take AMD parts already done, fuck with a few portions of the design (mainly in the memory controller)... Make a few engineering samples based on currently developed parts...

Wait until competitor announces... Choose part you like, scrap the rest.

Instead of the 360 path... Have an entirely new GPU designed for you and freak out until mass production day because of the crazy amount of debugging due to errata that keeps creeping in...

It's a little more expensive to do parallel. But considering how PC GPUs have left console GPUs in the dust, extensive engineering won't close the gap like before... So parallel can be very safe unless your competitor goes beyond your expected power envelope and thermal capability.

In a big industry like this, you don't want to take unnecessary risks.

No, what you're describing only happens in the early phases when you're prototyping; NOT when you're about to go into full production.

When you're less than a year from launch you do not have the luxury (in terms of budget, schedule) to fully develop and test various prototypes of hardware and then pick one at the last minute after a competitor announces their product.

What if Sony didn't reveal a PS4 this year? They played the waiting game and allocated a massive amount of resources for nothing.

Microsoft has a time frame and a vision, they don't need to know what's going inside the PS4.

The ridiculous dream of being able to pick and choose a component at the last minute is nonsense in a closed system design that's going to be manufactured in massive quantities.
 
I remember there being a PSP commercial with that song. The camera was pointed at different faces as if they were holding the PSP.

That could be it now that I think of it.

Damn, not sure. I remember Gamespot had both videos a while back, but now they only have the E3 2005 one. Shit, I really wish I could remember.
 
Also, did anyone else hear Paul Thurrott talk about how MS is moving away from the cartoony look of avatars? He wasn't totally clear about it on Windows Weekly, but from what he made it sound like, they were removing avatars all together in favor of real-life pictures and things due to external products like Skype.

Here's the Windows Weekly he said it in. Sadly I have no time-stamp for when he mentions it.
 
Also, did anyone else hear Paul Thurrott talk about how MS is moving away from the cartoony look of avatars? He wasn't totally clear about it on Windows Weekly, but from what he made it sound like, they were removing avatars all together in favor of real-life pictures and things due to external products like Skype.

The whole Avatar thing was definitely a way to join in on the Mii fad.
 
Good Lord, Izick, how often do you change your avatar?

Far too much. I never can find one I really like enough to keep for a long time. I like this one though.

Is it bad that I still haven't totally given up on Rare?

Nah, their last games really have been okay to good. They're not putting out Banjo Kazzoie or Conker levels of quality, but they're not bad. Viva Pinata, Kameo, and PDZ (for its time) were all pretty good games.

I'm excited to see what they have planned, especially since they're not being rushed from a competitor's last gen console, to the current owner's current gen console, to the current owner's next-gen console

The whole Avatar thing was definitely a way to join in on the Mii fad.

I thought it was cool, but it felt out of place. I like them moving towards a more social network type of thing like Sony is with PS4. A part of me will miss em' though.
 
Also, did anyone else hear Paul Thurrott talk about how MS is moving away from the cartoony look of avatars? He wasn't totally clear about it on Windows Weekly, but from what he made it sound like, they were removing avatars all together in favor of real-life pictures and things due to external products like Skype.

Here's the Windows Weekly he said it in. Sadly I have no time-stamp for when he mentions it.

I was listening to that just a few hours ago. He talks about the avatars at around the 1hr 5 min mark.
 
I was listening to that just a few hours ago. He talks about the avatars at around the 1hr 5 min mark.

Thank you, and I cracked up when I heard Paul's Article Title: This Week in Microsoft Rumors, or Next Week's Verge Exlusives.

To clarify, Microsoft is going to downplay the avatars on the Xbox, but they will still probably be around in some way.
 
Far too much. I never can find one I really like enough to keep for a long time. I like this one though.



Nah, their last games really have been okay to good. They're not putting out Banjo Kazzoie or Conker levels of quality, but they're not bad. Viva Pinata, Kameo, and PDZ (for its time) were all pretty good games.

I'm excited to see what they have planned, especially since they're not being rushed from a competitor's last gen console, to the current owner's current gen console, to the current owner's next-gen console



I thought it was cool, but it felt out of place. I like them moving towards a more social network type of thing like Sony is with PS4. A part of me will miss em' though.

Yeah, I think moving towards a social network type of space is much better. It is the starting point to linking all of our devices together.

Miis weren't bad, but MS could have used the Avatars better. Instead of having them just in small Arcade and Indie games, they could have implemented them in full games. I liked how Nintendo incorporated the Miis into most of their first party games like Mario Kart and Animal Crossing.
 
I feel like there was so much more excitement around the PS Meeting.

There was. Sony announced it out of nowhere via a Facebook status and it was the first glimpse into the next generation. There were no rumors of when it would happen and Kaz had said Microsoft would go first.
 
The first taste of a new generation is always the best, because you almost never know what to expect. You see tech demos for a few months prior to it, but nothing really tangible up until that point. You have all these ideas and expectations conjured up about the games, the OS, the hardware, the controller, etc. Obviously some of that exists in every console launch, but you can't recapture that total unexpectedness of a new generation's games.
 
There was. Sony announced it out of nowhere via a Facebook status and it was the first glimpse into the next generation. There were no rumors of when it would happen and Kaz had said Microsoft would go first.
They also had a kickass teaser video coming out of nowhere with no additional infos attached to it. Everyone knew it was going to be the PS4, but there was no way to be 100% sure. That also left some room for speculation.

MS openly said what is going to happen, so most people are just waiting now in silence.
 
Like you buy the game used, then you will have to buy an activation kit? I'm guessing is not worse than No-Use games.

Pretty much. It's an expansion of the current online pass system, whereby you can't access MP if you don't have a code.

This would work in exactly the same way, you'd either get a trial period to play the game or you'd be directed to a menu at boot up and asked to enter a code. Failure to enter the code would then direct you to the marketplace where you can buy one for the princely sum of $15 to $20.

Gamestop will probably also be getting in on the action by selling the activation keys for a small cut. Trade in values would probably see a drop, but the used games market would still be able to function and provide some level of liquidity to those who can't afford to/choose not to buy $60 games outright.
 
nobdy.gif
 
So what are the chances for Crimson Dragon to be a 720 title? If they want a killer Kinect title for us gamers this one would be perfect.

I know it is still expected to be a xbla title for this summer, but this article stood out for me:

"Well, the game has been delayed and I know people are waiting for it, but it is definitely moving ahead," Yukio Futatsugi told Eurogamer at last week's Bitsummit meeting in Kyoto. "Microsoft will announce it when they're ready."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-13-crimson-dragon-still-lives-and-is-not-far-off
 
I feel like there was so much more excitement around the PS Meeting.

I think thats obvious at this point. The thread had 2 million views, the meeting was advertised in the Champions League and on the internet, the gifs were nothing short of amazing, and lets not forget that it was the first next gen reveal.

Frankly I'm disappointed at the hype in this thread. What happened to the thread that was first put up? That one was moving really fast.
 
Also, did anyone else hear Paul Thurrott talk about how MS is moving away from the cartoony look of avatars? He wasn't totally clear about it on Windows Weekly, but from what he made it sound like, they were removing avatars all together in favor of real-life pictures and things due to external products like Skype.

Here's the Windows Weekly he said it in. Sadly I have no time-stamp for when he mentions it.

this dude will have a hard time then...

images



I feel like there was so much more excitement around the PS Meeting.

not enough gifs

hopefully 21st of may will change that and Mattrification will be a standard in MS threads
 
The SONY hype machine on GAF made an excellent job.

Sony also made a bigger noise about it than MS did, they had the teaser video which got millions of hits on youtube, and they also had those ads on various websites like 'Jump Out'.

If you think about it though, what with MS event just days before E3, it makes sense that they're going in a bit quieter because they've got the publicity of E3 to really push it.
 
Is it bad that I still haven't totally given up on Rare?


No... i' still (secretly) holding out that the specs won't be true and they had some mind-bending system in parallel and will blow PS4 out of the water... not because of any sort of bias, just better games and more competition.

Also struggling to see why they think the type of people who are early buyers for this sort of stuff don't want the best tech.... they absolutely do.

So much of what made 360 compelling at the rumour stage is just.... nowhere to be seen.
 
So what are the chances for Crimson Dragon to be a 720 title? If they want a killer Kinect title for us gamers this one would be perfect.

I know it is still expected to be a xbla title for this summer, but this article stood out for me:



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-13-crimson-dragon-still-lives-and-is-not-far-off

The demo for the 360 version was accidentally uploaded a few months ago, so it's probably still a 360 title or there's the slim possibility that it has become a cross generation title.
 
The demo for the 360 version was accidentally uploaded a few months ago, so it's probably still a 360 title or there's the slim possibility that it has become a cross generation title.


Its out for xbox games on winphone.

Just a basic side story shooter but it is good fun for the price = 0.79p.
 
Sony also made a bigger noise about it than MS did, they had the teaser video which got millions of hits on youtube, and they also had those ads on various websites like 'Jump Out'.

If you think about it though, what with MS event just days before E3, it makes sense that they're going in a bit quieter because they've got the publicity of E3 to really push it.

It makes no sense that they don't take every opportunity to generate publicity.

We already know they pushed the reveal back a month - that is not a good sign.

The simple fact is that SO FAR Sony did a much better job of generating hype.

It's no coincidence that Cerny was interviewed about the power of PS4 on the self same day MS announced their reveal event.

MS may be hoping for a bigger bang in a shorter time frame.... depending on what they have to reveal it could pay off... its a gamble though.
 
I'm still surprised so many legitimately care about the specs.

They'll be more than good enough to give us great games. Can't that be enough?

We already know they pushed the reveal back a month - that is not a good sign.
.

no we don't that's just what some people wanted to believe to help fulfill their scrambling fantasies.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom