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[fates]

The moon-phase system did play a role in the games, what with demon disposition and with fusion.

The removal of the mechanic is odd, but perhaps not unwarranted. Apparently time travel is a big thing in this game. With that mind, the moon phase model just wouldn't work since you aren't playing in a linear time progression anymore.

 

[GeekyDad]

I wouldn't be "extremely worried" about things that are nitpicky at best.

Also, I didn't know people cared about the moon system, lol.

Stole my post. But yeah, all of those issues seem trivial. And no random encounters? How is that ever a bad thing?

 

[Sophia]

The moon-phase system was extremely archaic and made no sense in most of the Megami Tensei games. Nocturne only managed to justify it because the Vortex World is about the size of Tokyo.

And the fusion system was never complex. Just obtuse.

Also, it's like you people have forgotten what Kanako's oldest art looked like. It was very early 90s/late 80s anime style. If anything, Masayuki Doi's art is very faithful to the style used on Shin Megami Tensei 1/2 on the SNES.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

I never understood the purpose of that moon phase thing. Only difference it seemed to make is that the demons went bat shit cray during fulll moon.

A mechanic that won't be missed.

 

[Lusankya]

I never understood the purpose of that moon phase thing. Only difference it seemed to make is that the demons went bat shit cray during fulll moon.

A mechanic that won't be missed.

In DDS it also meant I had to walk in circles for hours before entering the store. -_-

 

[dakkumauji]

He looks fine comparing he last iteration. Steven and Black Samurai are from past SMT titles.

So I wonder if there will be a cameo from SMT3? Demifiend maybe.

Secret boss again to ruin us all!

I never understood the purpose of that moon phase thing. Only difference it seemed to make is that the demons went bat shit cray during fulll moon.

A mechanic that won't be missed.

Bat shit crazy with criticals you mean!

 

[Soulhouf]

The moon-phase system was extremely archaic and made no sense in most of the Megami Tensei games. Nocturne only managed to justify it because the Vortex World is about the size of Tokyo.

And the fusion system was never complex. Just obtuse.

Also, it's like you people have forgotten what Kanako's oldest art looked like. It was very early 90s/late 80s anime style. If anything, Masayuki Doi's art is very faithful to the style used on Shin Megami Tensei 1/2 on the SNES.

These Kaneko's old arts are less clean and you didn't have direct portraits like that when people talk in SMTI, II and if... That's why Nocturne's transition was good enough, the characters in 3D looked credible.
It would be great if Doi's portraits weren't so clean and colorful because I like his style.
Perhaps "anime style" is a bad description but you know what I mean.

And regarding the moon-phase system, even if the idea wasn't great in the 1st place, it introduced some hazards in battle in addition to the possibilities in fusion.
You know, it became a part of the system.
But as fates said, perhaps it's related to the time travel and they replaced it by another (better?) system.

 

[Sophia]

Those Kaneko arts were less clean simply because of the era of the art. His art got super clean (and super surreal) when he switched over to the newer style.

 

[buddha0991]

Megaten was always anime, it just isnt 80's/early 90's anime anymore.

 

[Infinite]

Saying the design if this game is anime Is quite honestly debatable and a non issue.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

I never understood the purpose of that moon phase thing. Only difference it seemed to make is that the demons went bat shit cray during fulll moon.

A mechanic that won't be missed.

The moon figures heavily in mythology; many entities in SMT's compendium are related to the moon and its mystery to the ancients.

Now you understand!

 

[jello44]

The moon figures heavily in mythology; many entities in SMT's compendium are related to the moon and its mystery to the ancients.

Now you understand!

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Saying the design if this game is anime Is quite honestly debatable and a non issue.

It's if they ACT that way (course, there's DeSu, but nothing's saving that shotgun marriage between Megaten plot and that art.)

From the themes and tales of mankinds many ways of life: Megaten.

 

[Soriku]

I'm glad the series has moved from random encounters. Actually that gives them an excuse to make the encounters harder. And we have heard that battles are tough even if there isn't a hard mode in the beginning.

Also how many SMT games start you off completely alone?

 

[Coffee Dog]

What kind of sick fuck wants random encounters? When I saw there weren't any I got pretty excited.

 

[Data West]

I may fall off the SMT bandwagon in general if I keep having to hear the same voice actors in every god damn release.

It's super disconnecting going from P4G to Strange Journey and hearing the same voice actors doing the same voice. It's something that I liked about Deadly Premonition, I didn't recognize a lot of the voice actors, and they were mostly acceptable(as good as anime voice actors at least) outside of York near the end.

 

[Marche90]

I may fall off the SMT bandwagon in general if I keep having to hear the same voice actors in every god damn release.

It's super disconnecting going from P4G to Strange Journey and hearing the same voice actors doing the same voice. It's something that I liked about Deadly Premonition, I didn't recognize a lot of the voice actors, and they were mostly acceptable(as good as anime voice actors at least) outside of York near the end.

Since when Strange Journey had voices?

 

[Data West]

Since when Strange Journey had voices?

Soul Hackers is what I meant. The prior discussion of Strange Journey threw me off.

 

[Kincaido]

This game is gonna suck.

Spoiler

I'm sure it'll be good. I'm just bitter about no dual audio with Atlus. I'm sick of hearing JYB and Yuri Lowenthal.

 

[TurnipFritters]

This game is gonna suck.

away all of your freetime

 

[kayos90]

This game is gonna suck.

Spoiler

I'm sure it'll be good. I'm just bitter about no dual audio with Atlus. I'm sick of hearing JYB and Yuri Lowenthal.

Are they confirmed?

 

[Kincaido]

Are they confirmed?

Dunno. But there will be no Sawashiro for sure. Game already ruined for me!

 

[cj_iwakura]

Dunno. But there will be no Sawashiro for sure. Game already ruined for me!

Let me guess, she was the voice of

Spoiler

Raphael? But seriously, Isabeau?

 

[Kincaido]

Let me guess, she was the voice of

Spoiler

Raphael? But seriously, Isabeau?

Yep.

 

[kayos90]

Dunno. But there will be no Sawashiro for sure. Game already ruined for me!

There's Sawashiro in the JP version? Ugh. So sad already.

 

[Just take it with you.]

Are they confirmed?

They might as well be.

 

[Magicpaint]

I may fall off the SMT bandwagon in general if I keep having to hear the same voice actors in every god damn release.

It's super disconnecting going from P4G to Strange Journey and hearing the same voice actors doing the same voice. It's something that I liked about Deadly Premonition, I didn't recognize a lot of the voice actors, and they were mostly acceptable(as good as anime voice actors at least) outside of York near the end.

Luckily in SMTIV you can turn off the voices, I believe.

 

[buddha0991]

It's if they ACT that way (course, there's DeSu, but nothing's saving that shotgun marriage between Megaten plot and that art.)



From the themes and tales of mankinds many ways of life: Megaten.

What you mean you don't like a world of sentient alien tits trying to desperately escape their hosts? Just typing that was painful.

 

[Soriku]

I may fall off the SMT bandwagon in general if I keep having to hear the same voice actors in every god damn release.

It's super disconnecting going from P4G to Strange Journey and hearing the same voice actors doing the same voice. It's something that I liked about Deadly Premonition, I didn't recognize a lot of the voice actors, and they were mostly acceptable(as good as anime voice actors at least) outside of York near the end.

Rejoice, you can turn off the voices. In both this and Soul Hackers.

 

[Aeana]

This game is gonna suck.

Spoiler

I'm sure it'll be good. I'm just bitter about no dual audio with Atlus. I'm sick of hearing JYB and Yuri Lowenthal.

The Japanese industry has the same problem, though. Koyasu is in everything.

 

[vall03]

You guys just reminded me that we won't be getting Sawashiro in Xillia too...

 

[buddha0991]

dont care STEVENs back its time to party in my cyber terminal

 

[Aeana]

Dunno. But there will be no Sawashiro for sure. Game already ruined for me!

So basically what you're saying is "god, I'm tired of hearing <popular English VA that's in every game>. I want to hear more of <popular Japanese VA that's in every game>."

 

[Soriku]

dont care STEVENs back its time to party in my cyber terminal

Steven: Can I see your panties? Yohohohoho!

 

[buddha0991]

Steven: Can I see your panties? Yohohohoho!

STEVEN PLS

 

[cj_iwakura]

The Japanese industry has the same problem, though. Koyasu is in everything.

I'm okay with this. (He was Jonathan in Catherine, right?)

 

[Kincaido]

So basically what you're saying is "god, I'm tired of hearing <popular English VA that's in every game>. I want to hear more of <popular Japanese VA that's in every game>."

Sawashiro is actually good though. While JYB isn't.

 

[buddha0991]

Le subjective face

 

[cj_iwakura]

I think I realized a key problem with SMT IV's protagonist. As much as I like his design, he doesn't seem to have much of a will.

Hitoshura and even Soul Hackers' protagonist look like people who could really take a beating in a fight. Flynn looks just blase about everything.

 

[jineha]

Koyasu is my hero since Transformer BeastWars.

 

[jineha]

Does early localization help SMT4 sales in the west?

 

[Soriku]

Does early localization help SMT4 sales in the west?

I think long localizations diminish hype a bit so probably. And I think the first print bonus they added is a smart move. It's been doing pretty well on Amazon since they announced it. Right now it's at #38, but was actually #1 at one point, then stuck around the top 10 and then top 10 for a while. It's slipping now but it's still pretty respectable for a niche JRPG. Sales should be helped out more if the game gets good reviews/reception (which is likely).

I think it'll do well honestly.

 

[Urban Scholar]

I think I realized a key problem with SMT IV's protagonist. As much as I like his design, he doesn't seem to have much of a will.

Hitoshura and even Soul Hackers' protagonist look like people who could really take a beating in a fight. Flynn looks just blase about everything.

Ahaha hitoshura? Really? He's some lanky bean pole with glowing tats. Man at first glance a wind would knock him out.

Ok now smt IV hero's build isn't exactly imposing either. At least looking like a samurai he could hold his own.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Ahaha hitoshura? Really? He's some lanky bean pole with glowing tats. Man at first glance a wind would knock him out.

Ok now smt IV hero's build isn't exactly imposing either. At least looking like a samurai he could hold his own.

All the concept art of him shows him doing incredible feats, though.

 

[Soriku]

Kind of off topic but someone uploaded all the variation's of Nocturne's overworld battle theme on Youtube (he also did the variations for the normal battle theme):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpMqNtHRvk

Makes me want to continue my Hard playthrough of Nocturne. I stopped at Shibuya.

I hope he does the same for DDS1's battle theme variations. I also wonder if SMT IV will have similar variations. I kinda doubt it though. I'm sure it'll have a couple different normal battle themes depending on the situation like Nocturne and DDS though.

 

[Urban Scholar]

All the concept art of him shows him doing incredible feats, though.

Oh yeah true, in fact that was caught my eye with the game all those years back. I guess the rest is history

 

[Just take it with you.]

Kind of off topic but someone uploaded all the variation's of Nocturne's overworld battle theme on Youtube (he also did the variations for the normal battle theme):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpMqNtHRvk

Makes me want to continue my Hard playthrough of Nocturne. I stopped at Shibuya.

I hope he does the same for DDS1's battle theme variations. I also wonder if SMT IV will have similar variations. I kinda doubt it though. I'm sure it'll have a couple different normal battle themes depending on the situation like Nocturne and DDS though.

Man, I wish SMTIV would have multiple standard-battle themes. I like it when RPGs do that, like Nocturne.

 

[jello44]

I think I realized a key problem with SMT IV's protagonist. As much as I like his design, he doesn't seem to have much of a will.

Hitoshura and even Soul Hackers' protagonist look like people who could really take a beating in a fight. Flynn looks just blase about everything.

Soul Hackers' protag looks like he already was in a fight before the game started, what with those bandages on his face.

 

[MagiusNecros]

All the concept art of him shows him doing incredible feats, though.

I will never get over his terrible design. To me he just looks stupid with essentially just shorts and he stole some poor kid's shoes.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Here are some more impressions about SMT4 from a dude that played the Japanese demo, which apparently was different from the previous demo. The most important thing is that the Black Samurai (which is a Black Demonica suit) is equippable armor. So. You know. You're gonna wanna wear that.