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[godhandiscen]

I feel like I am 15 or something again (I am 27 now). I had a dream about the conference, the second one this month. The conference was largely boring, but then Microsoft showed off Kingdom Under Fire 2. The dream was so good I was super pumped going into my morning workout. By now, I can easily see how nothing Microsoft will show on the 21st could live up to my hype, but I want to believe.

 

[Klocker]

salty bingo card


and as for the RAM reserved for both systems, I think some are underestimating the amount of RAM to keep these games in memory and multitasking other apps and whatnot.

Agree. Even if people compare show vs. show the fact that Microsoft will be showing a new console along side the biggest selling franchise of the past gen in Call of Duty, that alone in the minds of the masses is already a win.

Even though COD will be on PS4 and PS3/360 etc. the fact that they will have it at their show along side of the new system is such a fucking big coup for them. The battle of mindshare for the masses is NOT with anyone here on Gaf. We are the minority, big time in the grand scheme of things. Little joey watching video's of the new COD and the Next Xbox being shown running is going to cause little joey to shit himself.

right on

 

[Izick]

Now I not only want Microsoft to have a killer show because I'm interested in a new Xbox, but also just to shut all the naysayers up once again. The unwarranted negative horseshit is definitely WAY less than it was earlier on in this thread, but seeing it still pop up every once and a while is still sad.

Xbox Infinte: Runs on Infinite Forum Fanboy Spite

 

[Calvarok]

I just got this linked, no endorsements:

That fake Infinity logo looks ACE.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

it's from sony's killzone shadowfall slides recently. they talk about threads 0-5 aka 6 threads aka 6 cores. also confirmed those cores are running at 1.6ghz from other calculations available on the slides.

So also no 2.0GHZ for PS4?

 

[Reiko]

I feel like I am 15 or something again (I am 27 now). I had a dream about the conference, the second one this month. The conference was largely boring, but then Microsoft showed off Kingdom Under Fire 2. The dream was so good I was super pumped going into my morning workout. By now, I can easily see how nothing Microsoft will show on the 21st could live up to my hype, but I want to believe.

I still don't understand the bizarre dream I had of Selena Gomez revealing the new Xbox.

 

[oVerde]

I still don't understand the bizarre dream I had of Selena Gomez revealing the new Xbox.

I will bookmark it ;D

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

So also no 2.0GHZ for PS4?

Devs are probably working under worst-case scenario restrictions.

Things could change between now and release -- clock speed could bump up to 2.0 GHz, and available cores could be increased.

 

[visionarysellout]

The rumors we have are 1GB for PS4 and 3GB for Durango OS. If that holds and Durango went to 12GB, the split would 9GB for games on Durango, 7GB on PS4.

Pretty similar, but it's better than the current 7GB/5GB rumor (which could change to 7/6)

I would not be at all surprised to see PS4 OS reserve go up over 1GB too though. Just like the two CPU core thing when everybody said 1 or less..

The PS4 RAM is faster and more capable. How much the Durango having more RAM would help it I dont know. A lot of people will say none. I'm not a programmer working on these consoles, none of us are, so I dont know. I do know I'd rather have 9GB than 5GB.

that's what i wanted to know from Reiko. Wouldn't going with GDDR3 RAM as opposed to GDDR5 like Sony make for some significant performance gaps? That's what the Sony fans are saying anyway. They said even if MS came out with 16 gigs of RAM , the PS4 would still outperform it by leaps and bounds because of the difference in speed

 

[XtremeXpider]

Devs are probably working under worst-case scenario restrictions.

Things could change between now and release -- clock speed could bump up to 2.0 GHz, and available cores could be increased.

Can't it be applied to the next Xbox?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Can't it be applied to the next Xbox?

Sure, both of those could change with the next Xbox realistically (clock speeds and system reservation)

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Can't it be applied to the next Xbox?

I heard it can't because it's Xbox

 

[Hawk269]

Can't it be applied to the next Xbox?

It can, but according to many on Gaf only Sony is capable of making changes to their hardware and that MS cannot do this or anything else since Sony, you know are only out for the best interest of the gamers.

 

[XtremeXpider]

Sure, both of those could change with the next Xbox realistically (clock speeds and system reservation)

Not according to some guys xD

 

[Calvarok]

It can, but according to many on Gaf only Sony is capable of making changes to their hardware and that MS cannot do this or anything else since Sony, you know are only out for the best interest of the gamers.

Eh, most people have legit reasons for thinking it's not possible. We'll see.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It can, but according to many on Gaf only Sony is capable of making changes to their hardware and that MS cannot do this or anything else since Sony, you know are only out for the best interest of the gamers.

Welll...to be fair, clock speed increase and decreasing system resources isn't much of a "hardware change".

From Microsoft's perspective it will all be about yield/heat/cost vs. performance when it comes to increasing clocks (which won't result in a very large increase to begin with) as well as whatever plans they have with using so much RAM for OS tasks vs. gaming.

Higher clocks is more unlikely than Microsoft decreasing their OS requirements, just because I'm sure they don't want another RROD.

 

[oVerde]

Razer is launching a new Fight Stick to the X360, this can be a hint to the BC controllers?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/17/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget

 

[Calvarok]

What if the new Xbox was locked to "Always Offline" for every Neogaf member who posts anything negative about Xbox? I wonder how many people would wish for online then?

 

[Dai101]

I just got this linked, no endorsements:

You can taste it

 

[Reiko]

Welll...to be fair, clock speed increase and decreasing system resources isn't much of a "hardware change".

From Microsoft's perspective it will all be about yield/heat/cost vs. performance when it comes to increasing clocks (which won't result in a very large increase to begin with) as well as whatever plans they have with using so much RAM for OS tasks vs. gaming.

Higher clocks is more unlikely than Microsoft decreasing their OS requirements, just because I'm sure they don't want another RROD.

Well Durango was rumored to be running HOT. lol

 

[Bsigg12]

Razer is launching a new Fight Stick to the X360, this can be a hint to the BC controllers?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/17/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget

Doubtful. Wired maybe if they haven't changed any buttons but the wireless is new tech so anything wireless won't work unless its new.

 

[XtremeXpider]

Well Durango was rumored to be running HOT. lol

It is because the tent is hot.

 

[Calvarok]

What if the new console is covered with LED red-colored rings and Microsoft gives us the finger and tells us "fuck you" when they reveal the design?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

So, it just sort of dawned on me that...

On tuesday, we will actually see the first shots of a physical, next-gen console.

Sony probably won't show the PS4 until E3, I'm guessing.

 

[Calvarok]

So, it just sort of dawned on me that...

On tuesday, we will actually see the first shots of a physical, next-gen console.

Sony probably won't show the PS4 until E3, I'm guessing.

Wii U is crying softly at that post

 

[Bsigg12]

Wii U is crying softly at that post

Pff Wii U next Gen? EA says nay.

 

[Reiko]

It is because the tent is hot.

Damn. I can't beat that comment. lol

 

[Calvarok]

Pff Wii U next Gen? EA says nay.

I thought EA was the devil here?

 

[Bsigg12]

I thought EA was the devil here?

Its a revolving door. Take your pick for each day of the week.

 

[Axonometri]

Lets say the new console uses some sort of "infinity" derivative in its name. (it probably will)
What do people prefer?

Xbox Infinity OR Xbox Infinite

Disney Xbox Infinity
or
Mircrosoft Disney Xbox Pixar Infinity with some star wars and lucas on the side

 

[XtremeXpider]

A guy (((interference))) said in Beyond3d that games are developed inside a virtual machine (just like vmware) and can access 5GB and 6 cores or something like this.

Spoiler

speculation/damage control: It is easier to hide real specs behind a VM

 

[Axonometri]

A guy (((interference))) said in Beyond3d that games are developed inside a virtual machine (just like vmware) and can access 5GB and 6 cores or something like this.

Parts of the process could be done like this... but where other things are done.. just not going to happen. IE: Audio recording and editing. I doubt they would even be doing High Pass and Ultra Res Modeling that way.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

A guy (((interference))) said in Beyond3d that games are developed inside a virtual machine (just like vmware) and can access 5GB and 6 cores or something like this.

Spoiler

speculation/damage control: It is easier to hide real specs behind a VM

You implying that Microsoft are hiding the specs of the console from the actual developers?

 

[Reiko]

You implying that Microsoft are hiding the specs of the console from the actual developers?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57836016&postcount=10972

 

[XtremeXpider]

Parts of the process could be done like this... but where other things are done.. just not going to happen. IE: Audio recording and editing. I doubt they would even be doing High Pass and Ultra Res Modeling that way.

Vm is practically like a full pc, even some vm's has GPU emulation (acceleration).

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

You implying that Microsoft are hiding the specs of the console from the actual developers?

Someone shop this then lol

 

[Reiko]

Someone shop this then lol

Argo: The Console

The hardware was fake. The mission was real.

 

[Heretic]

I just got this linked, no endorsements:

1 too many columns... fail.

 

[Axonometri]

Well, a vm is practically like a full pc, even some vm's has GPU emulation (acceleration).

True...

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Change the title from Argo to Durango and you've got a winner

 

[rigel137]

Someone shop this then lol

The Move is fake
The Kinect is real


trollface.jpg

 

[Axonometri]

The Move is fake
The Kinect is real


trollface.jpg

Whats a Move? Sounds Familiar?

 

[XtremeXpider]

You implying that Microsoft are hiding the specs of the console from the actual developers?

Well, Nintendo did it. But not, I was joking.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Spec talk again

5GB according to this guy
http://bbs.a9vg.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3453777&extra=&authorid=483741&page=1

Sony would be god damn stupid to put 8 gigs of GDDR5 in their console and waste 3 of them on the os.

for that reason, I call this fake.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Sony would be god damn stupid to put 8 gigs of GDDR5 in their console and waste 3 of them on the os.

for that reason, I call this fake.

Read my all replies in that page

 

[XtremeXpider]

Sony would be god damn stupid to put 8 gigs of GDDR5 in their console and waste 3 of them on the os.

for that reason, I call this fake.

"Waste"? How you know that it is a waste?

 

[c0de]

So also no 2.0GHZ for PS4?

Just wait for a system update

 

[Reiko]

MINDBLOWN: Seems there was a connection to that bizarre dream.

Selena Gomez did team up with Xbox before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrhyo0_gSXk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2ACouY93o

*Head Explodes*

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Just wait for a system update

How many date they can up?

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

"Waste"? How you know that it is a waste?

because gddr5 ram is expensive. If they were going to waste 3 gigs on the os, they would of been better off doing separate pools of ram and save a few bucks.

plus do you know what GDDR stands for? graphics double date rate