Yes. The GAF hivemind defense. Nice going.
Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed
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Maybe it was a trick reveal. They made the first step, but Microsoft will make the "full" reveal in a few days. Then Sony can make final adjustments accordingly. Muahahahaha!
The Living Tribunal
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Is this what you got from his post?
Referring to GAF as a single entity instead of a collection of threads with various posters participating in them based on their individual areas of interests and preferences. Yup.
James Sawyer Ford
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Those specs are ridiculous. Can't believe Reiko believes there's a possibility.
Tesseract
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tell it like it is bald eagle bro. for america.
quickwhips
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It crazy to believe microsoft would let sony have such a large leap or that always online would happen also.
Oh I was under the impression that games and exclusives were also quite important to most GAFfers beside the raw specs. Please do tell us more about "GAF".
well ok sorry for being not so specific, but the majority of GAF seem to care about specs, there are a lot of threads devoted about them and in threads that arnt the topic comes up often.
the comment was meant to be tougne and cheek, I will be more clear next time, peace.
While many of us are buying all systems....there are a few that will shift the goal posts when it comes to "games and exclusives".
If Microsoft hits a home run with the most exclusives and the most games at launch by the end of E3, but they keep the rumored specs, there are plenty of people lurking the boards that will ONLY be about specs.
Thankfully, a lot of us will just throw our money at every thing we can...lol.
I would challenge that.
We're in a specific part of the lifecycle of the announcement. Most leaks are about the specs of the devices, so they are what is being discussed. Very details (names, genre) of next-gen games are known.
Specs are only interesting at the moment as that is something that can be compared between the platforms, as not much is yet known. I can only speak for myself, but as soon as both announce their exclusive line-up at E3 or the consoles are out, I will only be interested in the specs in as much they change what kind of version of a multiplat I'm going to get.
(Assuming they both convince me to buy their console.)
There was a point in when GAF had lots of thread on sales-age stuff. Click on some random threads and check who posts in what. There is less overlap than you'd expect if you hold the position that "most of GAF" shares an interest.
If you looked at this thread you'd think everyone on GAF is excited for the next Xbox based on the Xbox avatar to post ratio. Look in any other thread and it looks completely different.
Anticitizen One
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This guy looks JUST LIKE Hugh Jackman
Xenon
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I would not rip on them for just copying a good idea. I would question their motivation for creating Move. MS and Nintendo were fully committed to their motion controls. It seemed to be more about matching a bullet point then excitement with the technology.
Specs are important to discuss at this point in time because they'll dictate what's possible throughout the next gen, not just in visuals but in interactivity. Until we get more concrete looks at games and info becomes commonplace, next gen discussions are going to focus on specs because it's the only way to make any kind of accurate conclusions until the info starts flowing.
Gemüsepizza
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I don't know. There are only two ways to achieve that, either by including 3 additional compute units, which I don't see happening, or by increasing clock speed by 175MHz to 975MHz, which is a lot for a console. But if they do this, nothing is stopping Sony from increasing clock speed too, which would give them 2.24TFLOPS with 975MHz.
Deuterium
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Umm, it would be far more appropriate to say that the great Clint Eastwood, in his younger days, looked a bit like the actor Hugh Jackman.
"There are two kinds of people in this world...those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
I think you should be up front about that you're assuming that the leaked documentation was their only devkit in development. (And it's based on that.)Gemüsepizza;58095304 said:
I don't know about the logistiscs, but they could conceivably have worked on two or more simultaneously.
James Sawyer Ford
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Wouldn't that make their yields terrible?
As someone else explained, it's not really feasible to work on two or more hardware designs beyond an initial concept. The leaked info we have is extremely detailed.
Gemüsepizza
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Well, in two days we will find out. ^^
From what I've heard is that they did and the leaked specs were from the build they decided on. The other ones were rumored to be vastly different and from different suppliers than AMD. Devs would be pissed if a change like that happened since they have been programing for specific architecture for a while.
Possibly. It depends on if they've ironed out previous yield issues. Like I said, I'm just estimating based on the outlined architecture and going through the possibilities that could get more power without a dramatic change. I could also see them going to 1.8GHz for the CPU and 900MHz for the GPU to keep the clocks matched for HSA features.
HigherLevel
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You mean Hugh Jackman kind of looks like Clint Eastwood?
Wouldn't it increase heat and power consumption a lot? Whatever they do I hope they just avoid another RROD fiasco.
fluffydelusions
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The 720 will be measured in horse power
Misuse only backfires. So anyone who half asses an idea will not find success at all. So it is it's own regulator.
I'm with you. I think the DDR3+32MB esRAM 1.2tflops is the most likely scenario.
I'm hoping for more, but after looking at how early the 1.8Tflops number was allegedly set in stone for Orbis (Jul/Aug 2011 according to VGLeaks) I'm not hoping too much.
Protip: Opinions can be challenged. But as you don't care, I won't pursue this any more.
The original comment was a joke at the amount ppl who seem to care about specs recently.
i did not intend it to be taken so seriously.
I still think the majority of GAF at this present time do care about specs, if you challenge my opinion then fine, but there is nothing to challenge, there is my opinion and yours, nothing less nothing more.
I'm thinking the same but I am keeping my mind open for a bit of a bump. I don't see the numbers doubling like some believe but the closer the systems are in power the better it is for everyone.
Demoncarnotaur
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Hey guys.
I'm kinda excited. I expect disappointment, but Im still excited.
I'm kinda excited. I expect disappointment, but Im still excited.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Not really much people in gaf care specs
But the people in GAF care about specs are pretty loudly and always try to rule the thread
But the people in GAF care about specs are pretty loudly and always try to rule the thread
You must have not been to the Wii U specs thread.
Maximilian Kolbe
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That's because it's too weak
I agree. If Durango pulls past PS4 with the specs then I will be annoyed that Sony is the one holding things back.
Although we could finally see a real world example of how much doing programming to the metal vs. using DX api can make up.
Tesseract
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Thats Clint Eastwood man!
I agree. If Durango pulls past PS4 with the specs then I will be annoyed that Sony is the one holding things back.
Although we could finally see a real world example of how much doing programming to the metal vs. using DX api can make up.
I don't think they can move past PS4, that would be a massive design overhaul, but some smart tweaks here and there combined with drastically lowering the OS overhead from the rumored numbers would do a lot of good.
lol wut?
Have you not been reading any Durango or PS4 thread? It's all they ever talk about.
E3 will put an end to a lot of the spec talk. Once we have concrete numbers and start seeing games it will subside substantially, at least until the first DF comparisons come out.
XtremeXpider
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Are you talking about Wii U users?
ThisWreckage
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Goal posts will shift either way. Personally, I feel like the 8 GB talking point is massively overplayed here on GAF. I am looking forward to E3. That's where the gamers will get a good idea about what kind of general software direction these two companies are trending toward. We really won't have a good idea what either company is really gearing toward until after E3.
Maximilian Kolbe
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What is this thread about?
People get spec talk tired pretty quickly,right now only same group of people keep talking about specs,but did you see them get games talk tired quickly?
Are you saying 720 will weak like WiiU?
visionarysellout
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this. MS is notorious for this. i know for sure they had 2 or 3 different spec'd versions in the development cycle of the xbox 360 before settling on the ibm powerpc architecture
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