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I question whether it was supposed to reach mainstream acceptance. Part of the problem with the anime boom of the early 00s was that the Region-1 side of the industry vastly overreached with what it could market. Anime shelves at stores were filled with stuff that would never sell very much outside of Japan. They should've focused on fewer core shows that were actually marketable to western audiences.

I think they got the idea somewhere that every show was a Bebop when that patently wasn't true
 
I was done with anime when i turned like 16-17.

I just lost all interest and i try and come back to it every so often but never can. I gave some of the bigger series a chance like Naruto, One Piece, Bleach etc. and hated them. Bleach was tolerable but i just can't get into the series anymore. There were a few anime films i did enjoy over the last 13-14 years though
 
Isn't that the issue though? After watching all the "good" stuff, the avid anime viewer is often left with mountains of turd.
there is good stuff beyond what aired on toonami, believe it or not

a lot of it

and while it may be hard to find, animegaf is willing to help!
 
I was done with anime when i turned like 16-17.

I just lost all interest and i try and come back to it every so often but never can. I gave some of the bigger series a chance like Naruto, One Piece, Bleach etc. and hated them. Bleach was tolerable but i just can't get into the series anymore. There were a few anime films i did enjoy over the last 13-14 years though
There's more to anime than the big three.

Lets judge live action movies on the big three, based on the list of highest grossing movies of all time.
  • Avatar
  • Titanic
  • Marvel's The Avengers

Wow. Never watching another film ever again.
 
Do not follow what the mass are raving about aka Naruto,Bleach,SAO.etc. It's 90% shit.

If you guys want to know what good anime to watch then pop your head into animegaf and ask.

We will tell you what good stuff and avoid Dedication Through Light because what he recommends is exactly what people don't want/tired of watching.
 
Do not follow what the mass are raving about. aka Naruto,Bleach,SAO.etc It's 90% shit.

If you guys want to know what good anime to watch then pop your head into animegaf and ask.

We will tell you what good stuff and avoid Dedication Through Light because what he recommends is exactly what people don't want/tired of watching.

Sounds labor intensive.
 
I should have said "wider audience" because it was moving in that direction where the nerd stigma was fading, but I think it's taken several steps back and it's right back in the uncomfortable/awkward realm.

Yeah. By all rights anime in western territories should've occupied the same place as foreign film -- a widely respected niche.
 
Some tips for the OP or anyone in OP's situation if you want to maintain anime as a hobby:

-Recognize the demographic of a show. It's been pointed out already that you are tired of shows written for little boys and lonely otaku. So it would help if you recognized that that's what those shows are for, and either avoid them or enjoy them for what they are without holding them up to Count of Monte Cristo.

-Try something different. I guess related to the prior point. Shows for little kids and otaku do take up much of the mainstream attention, particularly in currently-airing seasons, so it does take more work to find something more interesting. But if you do find something you like outside of the mainstream, it's even more rewarding. A tip that might help with that, I suppose, is to look for things that are not based on manga or games or books. If you can't find something new that catches your interest, then

-Try old stuff. Have you seen the Count of Monte Cristo anime? It's pretty weird, and different. Maybe not as good as the book, but worth a watch. That's not exactly what I meant by 'old' stuff, but I suppose anything that's already finished airing can be considered old. But I'm talking things that are more than a decade old. If you can't handle how 'old' (70's, 80's) shows look, then I can't help you.

-Don't marathon a single show. If a show is worth the effort of actually paying attention to the story or ongoing mystery, I personally think spreading it out over time adds more value to it than if I watched the whole thing in a few days. I think 'anime marathons' are fine if you have the time, but you can watch multiple things in that marathon rather than just one.

So I guess my tips boil down to add some variety and take your time. There are other things I would consider if you want to go 'deeper', like following specific studios (Madhouse would be perhaps the safest choice) or looking at the history of certain directors. I get a kick out of robot shows, so my main anime projects right now are old robot shows. My focus is on things directed by Ryosuke Takahashi. I still watch shows that are new, but the shows that I am most interested in are decidedly 'off-mainstream' things like Chihayafuru and Space Brothers. I checked in recently with Attack on Titan, and that's all right.

So there are still things out there in anime to be interested in if you want to look further than the first things that are shoved in your face, and if you can handle something that's more than 5 or 10 or 20 years old.
 
Come to think of it, i did watch and enjoy (for the most part) Avatar.
I wouldn't consider that anime though.

I mean i still love 2d animation a great deal of course, it's the tropes and the recurring narrative elements that bother me.
 
There's more to anime than the big three.

Lets judge live action movies on the big three, based on the list of highest grossing movies of all time.
  • Avatar
  • Titanic
  • Marvel's The Avengers

Wow. Never watching another film ever again.
I just listed a few.

No need to get butthurt because i don't enjoy anime anymore. I don't care about "drama/comedy" anime. I have tried Hunter X Hunter, Soul Eater, Full Metal Panic, Claymore, Samurai 7, Samurai Champloo etc. etc. etc. etc.

I just can't get into anime anymore. Sorry i don't enjoy things you enjoy?
 
I just listed a few.

No need to get butthurt because i don't enjoy anime anymore. I don't care about "drama/comedy" anime. I have tried Hunter X Hunter, Soul Eater, Full Metal Panic, Claymore, Samurai 7, Samurai Champloo etc. etc. etc. etc.

I just can't get into anime anymore. Sorry i don't enjoy things you enjoy?
What did you think about Claymore?
 
I have fallen off watching anime over the last five or so years for some of the same reasons. I still occasionally look at those new season charts, but I almost never see anything that interests me anymore.
 
I don't know if you could say they're not mainstream since they're really popular in Japan.
I considered mentioning that but it would have been a little off-point in my already too-long post. It's definitely not mainstream here, and 'our mainstream' (the otaku stuff) isn't mainstream in Japan.
 
What did you think about Claymore?
It wasn't half bad. I didn't get to finish it and only watched about 8 episodes.

The biggest problem i have with Anime is the length of most of it and that i have to fit it in with other hobbies. And truth be told, i can't stand subbing. Out of like 40 shows i have given a chance of the last decade the ones i did enjoy were rurouni kenshin, full metal alchemist, full metal alchemist brotherhood, basilisk and the studio ghibli stuff.

Most of the anime available to me is in sub, which is a huge turn off. I don't care what the anime purist think i simply don't like it. I don't get a ton of free time to begin with and when i do and i am in the mood to watch something i want to watch it, not read it.
 
Unfortunately OP is right.

But that is mainly because good manga is rare these days. Most of anime is based on manga source so without source good anime is rarity.

Right now Mahwa (korean manga) is delivering more and more interesting stories to point where i browse more mahwa than manga monthly.

I hope korea will start doing their own anime soon.
 
Unfortunately OP is right.

But that is mainly because good manga is rare these days. Most of anime is based on manga source so without source good anime is rarity.

It's just that interesting mangas don't always get adaptations, like Oyasumi Punpun, Again!!, Umimachi Diary...
 
Unfortunately OP is right.

But that is mainly because good manga is rare these days. Most of anime is based on manga source so without source good anime is rarity.

Right now Mahwa (korean manga) is delivering more and more interesting stories to point where i browse more mahwa than manga monthly.

I hope korea will start doing their own anime soon.

Korean webcomics are really, really good. Cheese in the Trap and Tower of God are my favourites.

Japan has written themselves into this rut with overly tropey, mass market, insular nonsense. That's not to say there aren't good manga, I am a Hero, Goodnight punpun etc are masterpieces. Just in general I'm getting tired of how similar it all is. How often I look at a new manga and I know the writer is just chasing after money with vapid, trope filled nonsense akin to a COD clone who has no idea how to actually make something good so they copy what is successful.
 
I'm from an older generation of anime fans, got into animes in the early/mid '90 thru a friend of mine and a local video store who would randomly add anime stuff to their selection. At the time it felt like something super underground and edgy (hey don't laugh!). And as I grew older, I also ended up getting turned off by how the industry was turning into.

The distaste turned into disgust after '00, and pure hate by the end of that decade. I truly hate how everything feels like its some sort of moe fodder and one step away from hentai. It's just embarrassing and I would never want to be associated with that.

I miss the days of interesting sci-fi/mecha/ninja animes with tons of explosions, people getting cut in two or blasted apart and mechas stepping on people. Strong male AND female leads that kicked asses. No bizarre stuff about a beta guy ending up living in a house with a bunch of girls of questionable age and being their slave or something.
 
anime these days is, if you wanna quantify, pretty much shit.

but hey, sometimes shit is fine too. One does need to have the best steak for dinner everyday.

And sometimes the anime is endearingly shit :)
 
It's just that interesting mangas don't always get adaptations, like Oyasumi Punpun, Again!!, Umimachi Diary...
More or less. Take your favorite pick from any manga that gets published in Ikki, Afternoon, Morning or Big Comic Spirits magazines and its better than your derivative webtoon manhwa
 
I'm from an older generation of anime fans, got into animes in the early/mid '90 thru a friend of mine and a local video store who would randomly add anime stuff to their selection. At the time it felt like something super underground and edgy (hey don't laugh!). And as I grew older, I also ended up getting turned off by how the industry was turning into.

The distaste turned into disgust after '00, and pure hate by the end of that decade. I truly hate how everything feels like its some sort of moe fodder and one step away from hentai. It's just embarrassing and I would never want to be associated with that.

I miss the days of interesting sci-fi/mecha/ninja animes with tons of explosions, people getting cut in two or blasted apart and mechas stepping on people. Strong male AND female leads that kicked asses. No bizarre stuff about a beta guy ending up living in a house with a bunch of girls of questionable age and being their slave or something.
I totally get where you are coming from.

I remember a friend telling me about this awesome zombie anime "highschool of the dead?" and it soon as it starting zooming in on ridiculously big anime tits i turned it off. I don't want that, that is garbage. Give me some interesting sci-fi/mech/samurai stuff and i will give it a try.
 
No bizarre stuff about a beta guy ending up living in a house with a bunch of girls of questionable age and being their slave or something.

No Love for Tenchi?

It is more common these days though.

Does sound like you missed Gurren-Lagann though.
 
Yep I can no longer sit down and enjoy anime. Last anime I watched was initial D which i loved. But Ive tried to watch anime since then and nothing imo is good anymore. I just get bored and wish i was doing something else
 
Eh, I feel like I've grown out of the time where I used to go crazy over anime, but I still enjoy a lot of shows. I'm a Shounen/Action fan myself, I can't deal with any of those cutesy/moe shows like K-On or any others though. Closest I came was Haruhi Suzimiya and Lucky Star.
 
I don't know if I'm drowning in too much cuteness and anime-style drawings since I arrived in Japan some 9 months ago, or it's just a coincidence and it was simply time to move on, but I've been unable to watch any anime for more than 2-3 episodes. I get annoyed at pretty much everything in it. The moe, the over the top drama, the girls' voices, stupid teenagers, flat characters, too much slice of life, too many stupid boobs, stupid attempts at humour. I wasn't even in the long-running shonen type of shows to begin with, it's the rest that I can't stand either now.

And it does feel like the medium has gone too far into pandering to the otaku crowd, light novel based anime appears to be more prevalent, and the light novels to a large degree seem to be written by the otaku, for the otaku. I'm not even sure how this will affect my JRPG habits, haven't played anything here (not much into portables, no TV/consoles), but I don't even fancy playing a JRPG right now.

I'm sure at some point something will come out and I'll enjoy watching it, if I find out about it. Trying to care about Devil Survivor 2 right now (haven't played the game), still have difficulties sustaining an interest.
 
Sounds like some people either need to take a break from anime or maybe watch the older titles or something.
 
I haven't watched Anime in 5 years until i discovered Idolm@ster this year. For some reason that show just clicked with me and is one of my favorite shows. Now i started watching some anime's. Hanasaku Iroha, Fate Zero and attack on titans. I can't believe how much awesome stuff i have missed these couple of years.
 
I haven't watched Anime in 5 years until i discovered Idolm@ster this year. For some reason that show just clicked with me and is one of my favorite shows. Now i started watching some anime's. Hanasaku Iroha, Fate Zero and attack on titans. I can't believe how much awesome stuff i have missed these couple of years.
iDOLM@STER is pretty good, good choice. Have you watched K-ON?
 
I haven't watched Anime in 5 years until i discovered Idolm@ster this year. For some reason that show just clicked with me and is one of my favorite shows. Now i started watching some anime's. Hanasaku Iroha, Fate Zero and attack on titans. I can't believe how much awesome stuff i have missed these couple of years.

There has been some more good stuff like Steins;Gate, Madoka Magica and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
 
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