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[Gemüsepizza]

12 gb PS3 is a stillborn and a joke

HDD size is critical if they want to sell digital content for 7+ years, casual Joe will not upgrade the drive on their own and if the drive gets full their purchasing will/capability will be affected.

You know, you can delete stuff if your drive gets full. And if you want to access it again later, you can redownload it. I don't know what people expect. They need to offer a console which is cheap and that's how you do it. Don't like it? Buy the premium model.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

12 gb PS3 is a stillborn and a joke

HDD size is critical if they want to sell digital content for 7+ years, casual Joe will not upgrade the drive on their own and if the drive gets full their purchasing will/capability will be affected.

I actually think 12GB model does quite well.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

12 gb PS3 is a stillborn and a joke

HDD size is critical if they want to sell digital content for 7+ years, casual Joe will not upgrade the drive on their own and if the drive gets full their purchasing will/capability will be affected.

12GB PS3 is selling very well in Europe.

 

[Darhan]

I'd hope that they have a 2TB model, preferably I would love if that had that 3TB Fusion HDD that the new iMac's have, where 256GB of it is SSD and the rest is for storage.

Wow! That would be the HDD I will put inside my PS4. I don't mind to pay more and have it preinstalled. If not, I really appreciate if Sony will let us change the HDD as the did with the PS3 (pre-slim).

But IMHO, they won't let us change the HDD for anyone we want. The PS4 price tag will be very tight, so I'm sure they expect to win money selling their own HDDs. I only hope they offer big ones.

I own a PS3 with a 1TB HDD I bought, so I expect that size as minimum.

 

[Dead Prince]

For those in select EU countries. would you like to enter to win a trip for 2 to be at E3 and find out first hand details for the ps4? well here's your chance. just answer 5 easy timed questions and you'll be entered!

http://e3competition.software.eu.playstation.com/

 

[Acheteedo]

For those in select EU countries. would you like to enter to win a trip for 2 to be at E3 and find out first hand details for the ps4? well here's your chance. just answer 5 easy timed questions and you'll be entered!

http://e3competition.software.eu.playstation.com/

Do you think you have to get them all right to win? I got the first E3's year wrong

 

[Dead Prince]

Do you think you have to get them all right to win? I got the first E3's year wrong

idk really. i missed the first question which was what year was the ps1 announced lol.

and i entered knowing i don't live in EU. but hey. they will save money since i'm basically near E3.

 

[netBuff]

Wow! That would be the HDD I will put inside my PS4. I don't mind to pay more and have it preinstalled. If not, I really appreciate if Sony will let us change the HDD as the did with the PS3 (pre-slim).

But IMHO, they won't let us change the HDD for anyone we want. The PS4 price tag will be very tight, so I'm sure they expect to win money selling their own HDDs. I only hope they offer big ones.

I own a PS3 with a 1TB HDD I bought, so I expect that size as minimum.

"Fusion drive" is just a fancy name for SSD caching - something Intel calls "Smart Response Technology" (available in Windows laptops everywhere). It works by using two drives inside the computer, an SSD as well as a regular HDD (3,5" in the case of the iMac) at the same time. We won't see this type of expensive technology in next gen consoles.

There are no 2,5" drives available on the market that are bigger than 1 TB and of standard 9,5 mm build height, that is the absolute maximum - therefore a 250 GB/500 GB split makes absolute sense. If we can actually change the HDD ourselves, I'll be perfectly happy with that. No drive bigger than 1TB is possible for launch.

I'd hope that they have a 2TB model, preferably I would love if that had that 3TB Fusion HDD that the new iMac's have, where 256GB of it is SSD and the rest is for storage.

"Fusion" is a marketing name, not a real physical object.

 

[dragonbane]

Pretty much, especially given the game will be developed outside god's country.

I am pretty sure they'll get other semi-well to well known actors.

Interestingly, the old man in the PS4 tech demo is apparently based off actor David Gant:

If that's true, then I'm pretty sure they didn't just hire him to scan his face. Maybe we'll see a full PS4 tech demo soon?

 

[firen]

Are we going to have a spoiler-free thread for this conference? (see: Spoiler Free XBOX thread)

 

[benny_a]

Are we going to have a spoiler-free thread for this conference? (see: Spoiler Free XBOX thread)

Because they are on the same day, we've had a thread for all the E3 conferences in the past where you could watch MS, Nintendo, EA, Ubisoft, Sony all in one. (This year we'll have the same without Nintendo.)

 

[Knoxcore]

Come on Sony, don't disappoint with the PS4 at E3. Please, give me games. Lots and lots of games.

 

[I-hate-u]

Sorry to temper your expectations, but Sony has not spoken at all about TV/entertainment services for the PS4. Like it or not, they will have to talk about it at E3. Keep that in mind going into E3.

 

[Hoo-doo]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.

They spent way too long on the non gaming features. But, to their credit, they stated outright that they were saving the big reveals and such for E3 (and they damn well need to be, because i promise you Sony has an avalanche planned).

Sooooooo, what does he know?

 

[AgentChris]

Why can't it be June 10th already

 

[SolidSnakex]

So after the Xbox conference the thing that really stuck out was the complete lack of presence from Japanese devs. While they didn't have a huge presence at Sony's reveal, we still saw Square, Capcom and Knack (Sony Japan). Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Hey why aren't you guys doing an "Only on Playstation" crap like Nintendo and Microsoft stuff xD

 

[I-hate-u]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

I hope so. I hope they have a second PS meeting for services later in the year and focus hard on games at E3. Blow everyone away Sony.

 

[metalslimer]

Literally the only thing Sony needs to do to have me at launch is announced used games without any fees. Literally one thing Im looking for even if the lineup is mediocre

 

[Pennywise]

Hey why aren't you guys doing an "Only on Playstation" crap like Nintendo and Microsoft stuff xD

Because there already was the Kazification.

 

[Into]

So after the Xbox conference the thing that really stuck out was the complete lack of presence from Japanese devs. While they didn't have a huge presence at Sony's reveal, we still saw Square, Capcom and Knack (Sony Japan). Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

Yeah i noticed that too, i bet the curbing of second hand games is not something Japanese publishers are thrilled about since second hand sales are massive in Japan.

They had Capcom, Square and Sony Japan, and i bet Konami will join them at E3 since Konami and Sony have always been tight it seems.

 

[SniperHunter]

So after the Xbox conference the thing that really stuck out was the complete lack of presence from Japanese devs. While they didn't have a huge presence at Sony's reveal, we still saw Square, Capcom and Knack (Sony Japan). Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

yea I said the same thing somewhere else. ZERO Japanese games, MS is completely done with Japan. Sony has got this in the bag

 

[Kagari]

So after the Xbox conference the thing that really stuck out was the complete lack of presence from Japanese devs. While they didn't have a huge presence at Sony's reveal, we still saw Square, Capcom and Knack (Sony Japan). Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

Yeah, I wasn't surprised though. MS gave up on Japan 4 years ago and never looked back.

 

[bigboss370]

Yeah, I wasn't surprised though. MS gave up on Japan 4 years ago and never looked back.

I thought they would tout MGSV since it seems to have gone multiplat. thought MS would make it seem like a FFXIII situation.

 

[AranhaHunter]

Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

God, I hope not. They can give JP a little attention or whatever, but I much prefer western games today so that would suck for me.

 

[SolidSnakex]

God, I hope not. They can give JP a little attention or whatever, but I much prefer western games today so that would suck for me.

They've shown with their announcement event that they aren't going to ignore Western devs. But I want to see them give more attention to Japanese devs during events like gamescom and E3. I guess we may have saw the first signs of that when they revealed rain and Puppeteer at gamescom last year.

I'd say another good thing to come out of this event is the EA partnership with MS. That means that Sony won't have to give up a chunk of their E3 conference time to sports demos.

Yoshida seems to be having fun today

 

[Globox_82]

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Yoshida seems to be having fun today

LOL

 

[MasLegio]

Sorry to temper your expectations, but Sony has not spoken at all about TV/entertainment services for the PS4. Like it or not, they will have to talk about it at E3. Keep that in mind going into E3.

why should we care about tv/entertainment services for the PS4?

they will have apps for that sector and the rest is US centric only and of no importance to me (EU citizen)

MS lost EU tonight.

 

[sn00zer]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

SO that gave me genuine chills... can not wait

 

[SSReborn]

Ran across this. Don't necessarily believe it but I figured I'd share it anyways. According to the site Sony is trying to get a Bloody Roar sequel for PS4 exclusively by helping with the development costs.

http://www.playstationgamerleague.c...-bloody-roar-may-be-coming-exclusively-to-r34

 

[dragonflys545]

Ran across this. Don't necessarily believe it but I figured I'd share it anyways. According to the site Sony is trying to get a Bloody Roar sequel for PS4 exclusively by helping with the development costs.

http://www.playstationgamerleague.c...-bloody-roar-may-be-coming-exclusively-to-r34

That would be bloody fantastic

 

[klee123]

So after the Xbox conference the thing that really stuck out was the complete lack of presence from Japanese devs. While they didn't have a huge presence at Sony's reveal, we still saw Square, Capcom and Knack (Sony Japan). Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

Music to my ears. If anything, the PS3 disappointed me for the first half of its life due to the lack of Japanese developed games.

Here's hoping that Sony courts with more Japanese devs this gen.

 

[CaptainTiptop]

Ran across this. Don't necessarily believe it but I figured I'd share it anyways. According to the site Sony is trying to get a Bloody Roar sequel for PS4 exclusively by helping with the development costs.

http://www.playstationgamerleague.c...-bloody-roar-may-be-coming-exclusively-to-r34

YES! Oh shit, Bloody Roar definitely needs a reboot.

 

[witness]

Don't fuck this up Sony. You have all the good will and people waiting to love the PS4.

 

[djplaeskool]

Yo, Damn.

 

[Loudninja]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

I really want to see The Order 1866

 

[Bunta]

 

[joshwaan]

I can't wait to see what Sony has instore for E3 really disappointed with what MS showed so far

 

[Verendus]

So after the Xbox conference the thing that really stuck out was the complete lack of presence from Japanese devs. While they didn't have a huge presence at Sony's reveal, we still saw Square, Capcom and Knack (Sony Japan). Hopefully this is a sign that we'll see Sony shift back toward showing Japanese devs a lot of attention like they did during the PSone and PS2 days.

To be fair, they've given Japanese devs attention. They're the ones who bailed on the PS3. Though, part of that is thanks to the mess that was the launch of the PS3, Sony mishandling the console, and the subsequent couple years which were very tough. It's not due to a lack of trying. You'll see some third party exclusives from Japanese devs, and part of that will be due to the fact they're more welcoming of Sony's helping hand this time since they know how things turned out these past few years. Western devs will still get a heavy focus though, that won't change.

 

[Evolution_1ne]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

 

[Kagari]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

Please be excited.

 

[Dead Prince]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

i saw Avalanche. Just Cause 3 Exclusive content and Renegade Ops 2 plz.

21 days to go!

 

[SniperHunter]

Yeah, I wasn't surprised though. MS gave up on Japan 4 years ago and never looked back.

Now is the perfect time for Sony to sweep in and get those big exclusives! Final Fantasy, Ace combat YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[i-Lo]

Please be excited.

Please understand.

 

[Kagari]

Please understand.

But no seriously, he's right.

 

[dragonflys545]

So, m0dus (mod) just commented on the fact that he knows Sony will have a fucking "avalanche of games" at E3.



Sooooooo, what does he know?

Naughty Dog Sanctioned I believe him!

 

[i-Lo]

But no seriously, he's right.

I know I know, I was just pulling your leg

I just hope they shove in the announcement of price drops for PS3 and PSV at least.

 

[dragonflys545]

But no seriously, he's right.

Man June 10 will be an amazing day!!!

 

[ULTROS!]

But no seriously, he's right.

Yeah, he's definitely right.

 

[SolidSnakex]

But no seriously, he's right.

I think it's GopherD that's also been hinting at Sony have a huge amount of PS4 games ready to roll at E3. Even going as far as to say that he'd be surprised if any PS3 or Vita games showed up in the conference because of how many PS4 games they have to show.