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[Tobor]

oh come on.

I responded to someone claiming gaf hive is saying xbone is not going to sell.

ms can sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves.

Xbox is the exception, not the rule. Take away the 360, and they haven't had a successful consumer product in over a decade.

 

[jond76]

I thought the comment was, "core gamers will buy everything."

It doesn't carry the same connotation as, "they will buy any old shit we throw out there," as some seem to imply. Maybe I read it wrong but it looked to me like they were saying something to the effect of: "hardcore gamers are going to buy both consoles" and that they were thinking they'd win over people who only plan to buy one.

It's still a stupid arrogant statement but changing the word "everything" to "anything" is a bit dishonest and only serves to stir up more outrage.

The fact that you pointed this out (and are correct), and no one has commented on it shows everything that is wrong with GAF right now.

Every news thread on the One is besieged by trolls and no one can have a meaningful discussion on the subject.

 

[Conor 419]

I find it outrageously hilarious that incompetent Microsoft have undertaken the role of being the smug company who feels their powerful brand will allow them to get away with anything...

...despite the fact they are in third place.

 

[grumble]

I find it outrageously hilarious that incompetent Microsoft have undertaken the role of being the smug company who feels their powerful brand will allow them to get away with anything...

...despite the fact they are in third place.

Third place in profits?

 

[maltrain]

I think so.

They knew, months ago, that blocking used games and always online features would be very unpopular decitions, but they did it anyway.

They have a plan and they haven't moved from it. And I'm pretty sure they won't in just two weeks, even with all the bad publicity they received.

They'll buy articles, they'll buy journalists and they'll move on with this, expecting people forget about it and "deal with it" when the console is on the market.

In this generation, their fans paid for playing online when they shouldn't do it (I shouldn't do it and I did, mea culpa) and they bet this happen again: sell a product it's free on the competition and expecting their fans pay for it anyway.

If you expect Microsoft change something, forget about it.

 

[PoweredBySoy]

What arrogance? They aren't telling people to get a second job so they can purchase the console ala Ken Kutaragi.

No, but you'll need a second job to pay for all those $60 games you want to play.

 

[The Scientist]

whats ironic about not wanting to have kinect mandatory, or concern about tv features reducing the ram usage for games, along with all the other things like " we aren't focusing on high end graphics" to paint a vivid image of a game device.

again people like you seem to be ignoring the legitimate gripes of many posters in this very thread to lul@ironygaf.

Nothing is ironic about not wanting to have kinect mandatory etc., that has nothing to do with my statement. I am not sure where you are going with that.

The irony is calling a successful company arrogant and then having the arrogance to say it will fail based on no business data at all (price, consumer demand etc.), all things MS has been researching.

An expert on profitable business and consumer demand, most of GAF is not.

 

[-CM-]

They're being arrogant?

 

[J-Rzez]

This was their plan from the get go to make an all in one wunderbox for the living room. Unfortunately, they have timed it wrong and should have perhaps waited one more gen of brand loyalty. After all, many are already cautious of MS as is from their RRoD shenanigans to their great software support off the bat to it becoming nonexistent past halfway in the gen outside of some CoD DLC stuff and Gears I guess. Their MS anti-consumer "features" are not helping at all and made things far-far worse. That's not even taking into account that it's the lesser in power console, which Sony completely caught them pants down with.

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

Only now that next generation is starting do we see the wrong in our present consoles fates.

 

[Melchiah]

Third place in profits?

Yet the Xbox division is still billions deep in the red, in spite of all the profits.

 

[UnluckyKate]

That "Core gamers will buy anything" comment isn't helping them

They are right. They are charging you for stuff that is free everywhere else and gamers buy it. I hate to say it but good for them so they will keep pushing the charges as far as players will pay. They are running their audience dry, and making a profit. It's capitalism. It sucks, but they have a successful, yet unethical, business model.