Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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At least it's good for my kill count.
I was arguing with the guys in the book thread about spoiling things over here and they started talking shit through spoiler tags. Wtf is wrong with these people? They were even insulting the mods over the bannings. And somehow were assholes for not wanting the books spoiled.
 
I was arguing with the guys in the book thread about spoiling things over here and they started talking shit through spoiler tags. Wtf is wrong with these people?

Who are "these people"? This isn't an "us" vs "them" thing. People who want to make it sound that way are every bit as bad as the actual assholes who go into threads to annoy people on purpose.
 
Who are "these people"? This isn't an "us" vs "them" thing. People who want to make it sound that way are every bit as bad as the actual assholes who go into threads to annoy people on purpose.


You want a link? The only reason I went in there was by accident because I was browsing on my phone and went into the wrong thread. They were shitting on the people in this thread and calling people here cry babies because the folks here didn't want the books/tv show spoiled and saying the bans were uncalled for. I argued with them, and then they started talking shit IN the spoiler tags AFTER I stopped replying.
 
You want a link? The only reason I went in there was by accident because I was browsing on my phone and went into the wrong thread. They were shitting on the people in this thread and calling people here cry babies because the folks here didn't want the books spoiled.

That's not what they were saying at all.

Looks like you're only interested in stirring up shit.
 
You want a link? The only reason I went in there was by accident because I was browsing on my phone and went into the wrong thread. They were shitting on the people in this thread and calling people here cry babies because the folks here didn't want the books spoiled.

As someone who mainly lurks in both threads: bullshit.

The main topic of complaint in the other thread is the witch hunts that go down in here driving people away, and they're absolutely right in complaining. Some of the bans that went down in here really aren't ban worthy at all, but people were dug in for trench warfare.
 
You want a link? The only reason I went in there was by accident because I was browsing on my phone and went into the wrong thread. They were shitting on the people in this thread and calling people here cry babies because the folks here didn't want the books spoiled and saying the bans were uncalled for. I argued with them, and then they started talking shit IN the spoiler tags AFTER I stopped replying.
So why did you read the tags if you didn't want to be spoiled?

Pretty sure that was the joke.
 
You want a link? The only reason I went in there was by accident because I was browsing on my phone and went into the wrong thread. They were shitting on the people in this thread and calling people here cry babies because the folks here didn't want the books spoiled and saying the bans were uncalled for. I argued with them, and then they started talking shit IN the spoiler tags AFTER I stopped replying.

Boo hoo, you went into a thread to try and instigate shit, and got mad when people treated you badly. Now you're coming back to your "own" thread, to complain about these "other" people with people you're more comfortable with, looking for sympathy and hoping for group support where others can also shit on these perceived "enemies" of yours. Don't give me that shit. That's not what this forum is about.

Generalizing on a large group of people based on a few bad eggs is a bad outlook on life. :P
 
The Hound is definitely a good guy.

So far, all we know is that he's not a massive fan of seeing helpless little girls raped or murdered. We'll determine how "good" he truly is once we see what he does with Arya next episode.

I have a feeling he'd have no problem taking her to King's Landing, if he wouldn't be executed as a traitor upon arrival.
 
As someone who mainly lurks in both threads: bullshit.

The main topic of complaint in the other thread is the witch hunts that go down in here driving people away, and they're absolutely right in complaining. Some of the bans that went down in here really aren't ban worthy at all, but people were dug in for trench warfare.

Bans are easy to get around here but technically every person who has been banned in this thread hasn't been following the rules stated in the OP. The problem is that people weren't getting banned for it nearly as often as they are this past week with the Red Wedding. There's a whole separate thread for people who have read the books, it moves just as fast as this one, people who read the books belong in that thread. This is supposed to be completely separate from the books but people feel like they have to keep mentioning it here. If book readers want to stay in this thread and read, and even post, then it should be nothing about the book. In this thread's universe, there is no such thing as A Song of Fire and Ice.
 
People mad about the bans should boycott this thread.

The mods are doing good work. I personally would like it to be a little more strict.
 
Bans are easy to get around here but technically every person who has been banned in this thread hasn't been following the rules stated in the OP. The problem is that people weren't getting banned for it nearly as often as they are this past week with the Red Wedding. There's a whole separate thread for people who have read the books, it moves just as fast as this one, people who read the books belong in that thread. This is supposed to be completely separate from the books but people feel like they have to keep mentioning it here. If book readers want to stay in this thread and read, and even post, then it should be nothing about the book. In this thread's universe, there is no such thing as A Song of Fire and Ice.

According to a bunch of them, we should get over it and read the books. It's an interesting dichotomy between the two threads.

People mad about the bans should boycott this thread.

haha
 
*NO BOOK SPOILERS , HINTS OR COMPARISONS*

This is a really good idea for a thread title.

1. It would look different from the spoiler thread, so there's no accidental clicks.

2. There doesn't need to be that "Sundays on HBO" part. Everyone knows that. And they don't read the OP anyways, as indicated by the ton of one-post spoilers.

3. Saying "NO BOOK SPOILERS" is clearly not enough, people flat out need "NO BOOK DISCUSSION AT ALL."

Doing that change would probably make everyone a lot happier!

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The other thread isn't even just a book topic, it's a book topic for the show, which makes even less sense for book readers to want to come here to talk about it, since they'd relate way more to the people who also read the books and watch the show.

Well that just fucked up my day.....

was it the baby stab?
 
Bans are easy to get around here but technically every person who has been banned in this thread hasn't been following the rules stated in the OP. The problem is that people weren't getting banned for it nearly as often as they are this past week with the Red Wedding. There's a whole separate thread for people who have read the books, it moves just as fast as this one, people who read the books belong in that thread. This is supposed to be completely separate from the books but people feel like they have to keep mentioning it here. If book readers want to stay in this thread and read, and even post, then it should be nothing about the book. In this thread's universe, there is no such thing as A Song of Fire and Ice.

I understand and appreciate that, and details of the books that aren't relevant to the show have no place here.

However, people who haven't read the books requesting backstory and details from the books to further help their knowledge has been happening since the thread began, and is, in my view, a perfectly legitimate thing to do. For goodness sakes, a guy was banned last night for answering a book-related question and mentioning that the books exist! This thread turned into quite an ugly witch hunt yesterday.
Doing that change would probably make everyone a lot happier!

Apart from all the people who have requested further definition to the events they've seen, and have been provided it by helpful and non-obtrusive book readers?

And, I'm sorry, all the rules in the world aren't going to stop the one line spoiler jackasses.
 
In this thread's universe, there is no such thing as A Song of Fire and Ice.

NeoGAF threads don't exist in alternate universes. We're letting first time viewers enjoy a privilege with this thread. That is what it is. It is not some fantasy thread where people pretend the books don't exist. There are clear rules about how to function in this thread so as not to ruin things for people who want to speculate and enjoy things as they happen on the show. That doesn't mean the books don't exist. Comparisons to the book and spoilers about what is to come is unwelcome out of respect, not out of some desire to play pretend.

Please remember that.

The other thread isn't even just a book topic, it's a book topic for the show, which makes even less sense for book readers to want to come here to talk about it, since they'd relate way more to the people who also read the books and watch the show.

This forum is not about segregation. No one has any business telling people which threads they "belong" in. As long as people are participating in a thread in good faith, they belong in a thread.
 
Anyway, let's concentrate on the good stuff. Like Jorah, Daario and Grey Worm whooping ass in Yunkai. If Grey Worm is a typical Unsullied and Dany has 8000 like him then oh boy. Severe beatdowns for everybody are forthcoming.

I love the way their fighting styles were different too. Jorah like a veteran. Straight up and without much fuss. Daario twirling around and being flashy. Grey Worm mechanical and precise. Very cool.
 
The other thread isn't even just a book topic, it's a book topic for the show, which makes even less sense for book readers to want to come here to talk about it, since they'd relate way more to the people who also read the books and watch the show.



was it the baby stab?

I think they dont want to deal with the people who bitch about every change made from the book so they come here..............but they forget to censor themselves.
 
Anyway, let's concentrate on the good stuff. Like Jorah, Daario and Grey Worm whooping ass in Yunkai. If Grey Worm is a typical Unsullied and Dany has 8000 like him then oh boy. Severe beatdowns for everybody are forthcoming.

The Unsullied chose Grey Worm as their captain, so I'm guessing he's among the best of them, if not the very best.
 
Anyway, let's concentrate on the good stuff. Like Jorah, Daario and Grey Worm whooping ass in Yunkai. If Grey Worm is a typical Unsullied and Dany has 8000 like him then oh boy. Severe beatdowns for everybody are forthcoming.

The "beatdown" in this episode was like an all stars pop concert.

- Grey Worm was like the hot new K-pop import doing his exotic shit.

- Daario was the new American Idol winner.

- Jorah is a drunk Ozzy Osborne struggling to remember his lines on stage and trying hard to pretend he was still hip.

I can't get over how unconvincing Jorah is at "kicking ass". He looks like a grandfather. Lolz.
 
The other thread isn't even just a book topic, it's a book topic for the show, which makes even less sense for book readers to want to come here to talk about it, since they'd relate way more to the people who also read the books and watch the show.

I apologise for enjoying seeing speculation from people and providing backstory to those who request it.

I don't particularly like you telling me who I should be talking to, either.
 
NeoGAF threads don't exist in alternate universes. We're letting first time viewers enjoy a privilege with this thread. That is what it is. It is not some fantasy thread where people pretend the books don't exist. There are clear rules about how to function in this thread so as not to ruin things for people who want to speculate and enjoy things as they happen on the show. That doesn't mean the books don't exist. Comparisons to the book and spoilers about what is to come is unwelcome out of respect, not out of some desire to play pretend.

Please remember that.



This forum is not about segregation. No one has any business telling people which threads they "belong" in. As long as people are participating in a thread in good faith, they belong in a thread.

Good to know. It just seems like some people can't help themselves sometimes, and people may even mistakenly say something about the books here when they didn't even mean to, but you're right, people just need to follow the rules and respect each other and think before they post.

Anyway, back to GoT discussions. Northern rebellion pretty dead at this point, is there going to be a King in the North for someone else or is the title going to be dead now?
 
I'm glad someone agrees with me about Cat's character flaw being an important part of not just this episode but a large part of how this story unfolded.

http://io9.com/why-do-we-sit-through-the-brutality-of-game-of-thrones-511056408

The crux of this latest episode is the scene, at the beginning, where Robb asks Catelyn's advice on his plan to attack Casterly Rock using Walder's army. The last time Catelyn gave her son advice (about not sending Theon home), Robb ignored it — and paid a huge price. So this time, he aims to listen.

And Catelyn carefully explains exactly why attacking Casterly Rock is a stupid idea even if they get Walder's army: if they don't take the castle immediately, they'll be caught between Tywin's armies and the sea. (And remember, we've heard over and over that Westerosi castles are built for long sieges.) And then Catelyn's own character flaw takes over, and she tells Robb to go ahead and do it anyway, so the Lannisters know what it's like to lose what they love. In other words, it's a strategically terrible idea, but it appeals to Catelyn's spiteful nature.

I hope the following consoles people who have considered not watching the show anymore.

And more to the point, this isn't a slaughter that leaves us with hope for some future pay-off. Maybe Arya Stark, who witnesses some of it, will grow up and get revenge on her increasingly long list of targets. Maybe Rickon Stark will become a great leader. Maybe there will be some karma. Maybe Daenerys and her dragons will eventually show up and burn the Freys and Lannisters, along with a lot of other people. But when Ned Stark was beheaded, we were offered the comforting possibility that Robb Stark would avenge him — and now, in fact, we're seeing how that turns out. This time, there's no such comfort.

So why do we choose to watch Game of Thrones, now that it's turned into a carousel of death, torture and mutilation, culminating in last night's Red Wedding? A couple of reasons, maybe:

1) We know that none of this is entirely random, and we're seeing the results of decisions people have been making all along.
Which makes it worse, in a way, but more fascinating.

2) The rising climate of violence only makes the small acts of kindness or mercy that we keep seeing more vital and significant. In this episode alone, there are a couple of attempts to spare an old man's life, one of which turns out okay.


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In the middle of so much death and horror, the episode offers us two kinds of hope for the Stark family, one rooted in magic and the other in conventional martial skills. And both of them only possible because the Starks showed kindness to a Wildling woman who attacked them in the woods, when they were still at the height of their power.

This show, and the books it's based on, manages to surprise us with hope as much as it does with atrocities — and maybe that, after all, is why we're so addicted to it.
 
I've never had a problem with those who've read the books filling in interesting background info so long as it doesn't hint at future events. This can be tricky though since no viewer is quite sure where and how the show will diverge from the books, and background info that didn't feature in the show yet could potentially be spoiler material. Another issue is when TV watcher speculation is clarified in some fashion by someone with knowledge otherwise.

I think the background info stuff is cool, and you can get some of it from the HBO Viewers Guide as well. I welcome that stuff in this thread but some others don't, so it's probably best left out.

The "beatdown" in this episode was like an all stars pop concert.

- Grey Worm was like the hot new K-pop import doing his exotic shit.

- Daario was the new American Idol winner.

- Jorah is a drunk Ozzy Osborne struggling to remember his lines on stage and trying hard to pretend he was still hip.

I can't get over how unconvincing Jorah is at "kicking ass". He looks like a grandfather. Lolz.

Jorah comes off as such a putz. Barristan needs to give him a good smack on the head with the broad side of his sword.
 
I'm really interested in the direction Jorah will go now that Daario is in the picture. I wonder if be will abandon her or set Daario up to die in combat or something.
 
Jorah comes off as such a putz. Barristan needs to give him a good smack on the head with the broad side of his sword.

Barristan just looks so much more confident than Jorah in ever scene. It's really funny when Jorah gets his "action scenes" because I really find it unbelievable that he can win the fights. Then again, maybe he's just fighting against scrubs. Lol.

Jorah > Barristan > > > > > > Mr. I Love Dragonlady

No. Daario is hot! :P
 
I apologise for enjoying seeing speculation from people and providing backstory to those who request it.

I don't particularly like you telling me who I should be talking to, either.

See as much speculation as you want, but please don't provide backstory to the whole thread, some of us don't want to see it. Not even because we think it will ruin the show, but because it spoils stuff from the books which a lot of us plan on reading.

As I understand it the other thread is designed so people who haven't read the books can go in and ask questions? So that doesn't need to happen here?
 
I apologise for enjoying seeing speculation from people and providing backstory to those who request it.

How do you know the book backstory won't become relevant in the tv show? Can you be 100%?

Example: Some gaffer commented a while ago that Robb's tv wife was NOT from the books (in this form) and they were combining two characters.

A seemingly harmless commentary about the books.

But after 5 seconds of thinking, this means that her actions may not actually be that impacting on the series as a whole. They can't be, there's at least 2 more books coming without this character.

Then after she reveals she's pregnant, this means that a character who wasn't relevant suddenly has a VERY important role. But since GRRM has written 3 more books past this point (another seemingly harmless commentary) this means that her character's pregnancy can't be part of the main story.

Which means either

1) She'll be irrelevant to the greater story by default.
2) She HAS to die. And no, the argument that "anyone can die" does not work, because there's a difference between inevitable and possible.

See what I mean? Her entire character ruined by a single harmless comment on book backstory.


And as a final salt for that wound, after some jerk ruined Robb's death for me, I already knew she and her unborn child had to die with him since there was no way they'd be able to incorporate a WHOLE NEW character into the next two books.

Demonstrating that even knowing there's more books ruins things too.


I know you mean well. You seem nice. But please realize literally ANY COMMENT FROM THE BOOKS CAN RUIN ANYTHING. Even if you don't think it will.
 
Jorah comes off as such a putz. Barristan needs to give him a good smack on the head with the broad side of his sword.

Why, cause he doesn't twirl his shit around like a Dynasty Warriors character? I like the fact that he looks like a real swordsman, a little vulnerable, but able to exploit his enemies.
 
All kneel before Daario. Easily my favourite character at the moment. He just doesn't give a fuck; he's all about that Khaleesi ass.

Actually, the characters who seem mostly concerned with getting laid and nothing else usually do alright for themselves. Bronn being another good example.
 
All kneel before Daario. Easily my favourite character at the moment. He just doesn't give a fuck; he's all about that Khaleesi ass.

Actually, the characters who seem mostly concerned with getting laid and nothing else usually do alright for themselves. Bronn being another good example.

I think such characters fit very well in story settings like this. They're the ones sitting on the fringe of society living day to day driven by their love of life and personal desires, with no larger ambitions and plans, while the rest of the world schemes, whines, and burns around them. It's a great archetype.
 
Why, cause he doesn't twirl his shit around like a Dynasty Warriors character? I like the fact that he looks like a real swordsman, a little vulnerable, but able to exploit his enemies.

I don't mind him in combat. Haven't seen enough of it to really judge, anyway. I just think his relationship with Dany so far is amusing. How much heartbreak can one poor man take?

And speaking of Barristan, I'm sad we haven't seen him beating some ass yet. I wanna know if all the talk about him in that world is legit or bullshit hype.
 
How do you know the book backstory won't become relevant in the tv show? Can you be 100%?

Example: Some gaffer commented a while ago that Robb's tv wife was NOT from the books (in this form) and they were combining two characters.

A seemingly harmless commentary about the books.

But after 5 seconds of thinking, this means that her actions may not actually be that impacting on the series as a whole. They can't be, there's at least 2 more books coming without this character.

Then after she reveals she's pregnant, this means that a character who wasn't relevant suddenly has a VERY important role. But since GRRM has written 3 more books past this point (another seemingly harmless commentary) this means that her character's pregnancy can't be part of the main story.

Which means either

1) She'll be irrelevant to the greater story by default.
2) She HAS to die. And no, the argument that "anyone can die" does not work, because there's a difference between inevitable and possible.

See what I mean? Her entire character ruined by a single harmless comment on book backstory.


And as a final salt for that wound, after some jerk ruined Robb's death for me, I already knew she and her unborn child had to die with him since there was no way they'd be able to incorporate a WHOLE NEW character into the next two books.

Demonstrating that even knowing there's more books ruins things too.


I know you mean well. You seem nice. But please realize literally ANY COMMENT FROM THE BOOKS CAN RUIN ANYTHING. Even if you don't think it will.

This this this a million times.
 
Watched the Red Wedding in stunned silence, was so fucking brutal and sudden, didnt expect it at all.

Robb's story-line this season has had ominous written all over it but just as I was thinking "hmm, maybe he'll be okay this season", it happened.

The Bran scenes were awesome, Im really hoping his storyline takes a new direction now and as for Jon - Ive gone from kinda finding him annoying and tiresome to now finding him awesome! Funny how a betrayal and deception can help a character.

And fuck Sam
bless him
 
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