That's what I meant.
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Nintendo E3 Site Opens: E3 Direct one hour long. Teases some games.
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That's what I meant.
The silent realm ones right? Those were good unlike the bug ones in TP.
I've got a creative Zelda suggestion:
Stop making Zelda games. There, that's it. A decade or 15 years or 25 years from now, let some mid-level producer discover the series' heritage and take another stab at it. In the mean time, retire it.
Why it's not going to happen:
What? Why would anyone want that? It's not like we're drowning in Zelda-type games. The people who say there's too much Zelda are insane :/
Doesn't even have to be like Dark Souls,. If Retro is making it then it's sure to be better than recent Zeldas.
Senator Soufflé
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Absolutely no desire to play as Shiek, sorry. I don't really understand the appeal. Is it just the whole Ninja thing?
But you guys have to realize that GX wasn't made by "Sega" ...it was made by those guys that are now the Yakuza studio!
Zelda should be less story and based more on fun & gameplay.
Good level design which keep you on going without having boring parts between it (like collecting tears).
So i'm glad they going back to zelda's from where it all started.
Lttp is still my fav zelda.
If Miyamoto will be more strongly involved and Paper Mario Sticker Star is any indication, that will happen. He famously said to reduce the amount of story in Sticker Star (which isn't really the right thing to do for that game)
Me too.
4, actually
Well, not really. The 5 makes sense because of the S. Not because of either Metroid 5 or Metroid Prime 4. Anyway, it's 6 now so suck it!
I've got a creative Zelda suggestion:
Stop making Zelda games. There, that's it. A decade or 15 years or 25 years from now, let some mid-level producer discover the series' heritage and take another stab at it. In the mean time, retire it.
Why it's not going to happen:
Such a dumb idea. We'd be missing out on a ton of great games with that line of thinking. No thank you.
1.21Gigawatts
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Nintendo needs megatons.
The Ps3 has a absurdly strong LineUp.
GT6, Peppeteer, Beyond, Rain, MetalGear, GTA V, AC, BF, COD, maybe TLG, maybe FinalFantasy.
Thats appealing to the west as well as Japan.
The Ps3 is also much cheaper than the WiiU and has a huge impressive backlog.
Then there is also the Ps4 with a very promising launch LineUp.
And MS has also some stuff cooking.
I think that the WiiU and Nintendo will have a hard time this holiday season, especially when the NextGen Consoles launch at 399$ and Ps3/Xbox360 get a price gut to 99$/149$.
Even when there is Zelda HD Remake, MarioKart U, Yoshis Epic Yarn, SmashBros U, maybe a 3D Mario. Its gonna be tough.
The Ps3 has a absurdly strong LineUp.
GT6, Peppeteer, Beyond, Rain, MetalGear, GTA V, AC, BF, COD, maybe TLG, maybe FinalFantasy.
Thats appealing to the west as well as Japan.
The Ps3 is also much cheaper than the WiiU and has a huge impressive backlog.
Then there is also the Ps4 with a very promising launch LineUp.
And MS has also some stuff cooking.
I think that the WiiU and Nintendo will have a hard time this holiday season, especially when the NextGen Consoles launch at 399$ and Ps3/Xbox360 get a price gut to 99$/149$.
Even when there is Zelda HD Remake, MarioKart U, Yoshis Epic Yarn, SmashBros U, maybe a 3D Mario. Its gonna be tough.
The games you list are new iterations in some of the best selling video game franchises of all time, compared to the PS3 list where only GTA and CoD fall into that category, and they're both multiformat. The rest sell relatively well, but they don't encourage console sales nor do they have massive pull over the general consumer like say Mario Kart does
Pretty sure Nintendo will be fine. Their games entice people to purchase their hardware
Pulling from several pages back, but I thought this was one of THE BEST posts in the thread as far as predictions.
We will get a trailer for the new games and maybe some explanation during the directs, but also Iwata Asks for many of them after that...
Also, I expect the release calendar to look like for Nintendo published Wii U games:
2013
- Game and Wario
- Pikmin 3
- The Wonderful 101
- Wind Waker HD
- New Mario 3D
- New Mario Kart
- Wii U Party
2014
- Super Smash Brothers (will probably slip to March 2015)
- X (2015 in NA, Europe)
- Retro's title
- Bayonetta 2
- Wii Fit U
- Yoshi's Yarn
Senator Soufflé
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Those games won't attract the more casual market in the same way that a 3D Mario or MK will though.
Spirit Icana
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I want another Golden Sun.
They ended Dark Dawn on a
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I want a fourth game that will be much harder and more epic with bigger monsters, cool magic attacks, and live instrument music from Motoi Sakuraba.
They ended Dark Dawn on a
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I want a fourth game that will be much harder and more epic with bigger monsters, cool magic attacks, and live instrument music from Motoi Sakuraba.
Guys, don't forget that Game & Wario, Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 are unlikely to be covered here. When this was announced, it was with another Nintendo Direct. That Nintendo Direct was for Summer releases and included those three. The E3 Direct was stated to be for games from Autumn and beyond
ShockingAlberto
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Wouldn't most game design shut down if not for the motivating factor of money?
chaosblade
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Yeah, that seems pretty realistic to me. I'm sure they'll touch on some third party stuff too.
Didn't Dark Dawn sell horribly? I was under the impression it did but I could be mistaken (like I was about Shadow Dragon).
I'd like a new Golden Sun, but they should pretend Dark Dawn never happened other than the key story elements. It was a huge step back from Lost Age for multiple reasons.
OverturePT
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Sold arround 600k. Yea, I can't see them making another one, at least this soon. The game budgets are growing by the minute and this is Nintendo's first venture in HD, I'm not sure they'll be taking many risks tbh. They know the franchises that sell (and potential system sellers like Bayonetta 2 outside of first parties) and they'll focus on that. So, while I would like to see Star Fox and F-Zero, hmmm... I don't know if they'll make it. People would want amazing games that would require amazing budgets, but these games sell less than a million and that's not an incentive to make a huge game.
Not at all. I've played skyward sword and while there are some differences between that and previous zeldas (mostly the combat and pre-dungeons) it wasn't big enough of a departure for the series I think.
fuzzy.dunlop
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Why isn't this on their E3 page???
Because it's not being shown.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Uh oh.
I'll repeat what I said on Twitter.
This E3 Direct has to be the Direct to end them all. Nintendo CANNOT fuck this up. Yes, we know 3D Mario, Mario Kart and Smash will be there, but that's the thing. We KNOW. What this Direct needs just as much as those games is surprises. SHOCK us, drop some bombs, DAMN IT! Pull another Bayonetta 2! Revive an old franchise! BUY SEGA.
SOMETHING.
This E3 Direct has to be the Direct to end them all. Nintendo CANNOT fuck this up. Yes, we know 3D Mario, Mario Kart and Smash will be there, but that's the thing. We KNOW. What this Direct needs just as much as those games is surprises. SHOCK us, drop some bombs, DAMN IT! Pull another Bayonetta 2! Revive an old franchise! BUY SEGA.
SOMETHING.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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If there aren't any surprises, I blame you and everyone else should.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I'm basing this on absolutely nothing but 10%.
dampflokfreund
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Yes, I agree. There must be some great surprises. Otherwise, the presentation is just good, but not AWESOME BALLZ ROCKING and WIIU RESCUING .
There's nothing to leak.
People will be disappointed anyway so why go the extra mile?
I think there will be some surprises but not the megatons people are expecting.
dampflokfreund
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Just because he did that dumb idea, doesn't mean that he will always cut off the story in his games. Miyamoto know that story is important for games like Zelda, he even said that (don't know the sources but I remember it quite good) I think the next Paper Mario will have a great story, Miyamoto is sure listening.
fuzzy.dunlop
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What if... the next one has a medical theme to it and takes place before Mario becomes Dr. Mario and Mario develops a sore throat and can't talk and this is the "story" of how Mario becomes Dr. Mario... what if... :O
It won't. Simply because there will be more directs even after this.
It doesn't matter if you know that they're going to show these games, a fucking 1 min trailer of a game coming out next year isn't going to magically make sales better for this thing. They need to focus on this year.
Eh... no thanks.
Moreover I think that with development costs going up and Zelda being one of the most expensive franchises for Nintendo to develop, I don't think the whole "cash cow" angle is really valid here.
dampflokfreund
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Box of Bunnies
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The opposite is true. Koizumi is actually on record as having had to sneak story stuff passed Miyamoto in to the Zeldas he worked on:
From Edge thread
Aonuma on Zelda:
It's an interview and he says that he understands people want change but they also want it to still be a Zelda game so they are focusing on expanding the ways to play whatever that means. He asked Miyamoto and Tezuka for advice on making a sequel to LttP and apparently they can't remember a lot, he uses the example that when faced with the question of why Link went from being left to right handed, Miyamoto replies "I forget." There is nothing in the game that will force the use of 3D and the gyros will not be used either because of destabilising the 3D effect. The game runs at 60fps in 3D. As he is getting older, Aonuma eventually wants to work on other new ideas not related to Zelda. Though he admits whatever he makes would probably be similar to a Zelda game anyway.
Aonuma on Zelda:
It's an interview and he says that he understands people want change but they also want it to still be a Zelda game so they are focusing on expanding the ways to play whatever that means. He asked Miyamoto and Tezuka for advice on making a sequel to LttP and apparently they can't remember a lot, he uses the example that when faced with the question of why Link went from being left to right handed, Miyamoto replies "I forget." There is nothing in the game that will force the use of 3D and the gyros will not be used either because of destabilising the 3D effect. The game runs at 60fps in 3D. As he is getting older, Aonuma eventually wants to work on other new ideas not related to Zelda. Though he admits whatever he makes would probably be similar to a Zelda game anyway.
chaosblade
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If 600k is legit that's a lot higher than I would have expected. But... given what seems to be the source for that figure I doubt it's right.
And I'd call Bayonetta a risk, neither of their games with Platinum seem like system sellers. They seem more like "calendar filler" for the core gaming crowd. And I don't mean that negatively, more that Nintendo probably doesn't have huge expectations but they should be quality games and good for filling out the release schedule and avoiding droughts. I'm guessing we'll see more games like that throughout the generation too.
dampflokfreund
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I think backstories and depth are REALLY important for Zelda, thats one thing that made Majoras Mask and Twilight Princess so great. It's so sad that Miyamoto and his team want to do just a flat and fun game (like Skyward Sword) and not a really deep one. Hopefully, Koizumi is more integrated in the next Zelda. TP had a really great story too, wonder how much he was involved in TP?
But I don't want them to end.
If I remember correct from Iwata Asks, Aonuma almost singlehandedly wrote the story for TP. But dont quote me on it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Hence E3ND. If you make 3 as E's shadow then it would read END. I tried to made a logo out of it but it look terrible so I would be okay if someone else make better one.
END OF ALL OUR LIVES AS WE KNOW IT IS!
OverturePT
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It's definitely a risk, but it might be a system seller outside of the Nintendo crowd, and I'm pretty sure that's what Nintendo is hoping for. They didn't bring Bayonetta 2 on board because the Nintendo fans wanted it (because most couldn't care less, they haven't played it, and if they did then they have other system where they can get it in), imo.
Box of Bunnies
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His last Zelda credit was as assistant director on Wind Waker. He's directed Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Mario Galaxy (where his story stuff is really evident in Rosalina's book) and Flipnote Studio and produced Galaxy 2 and 3D Land since then.
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