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[BloodMoney]

PlayStation World will be a tiered premium service. Most likely paywall will be there. Still unclear if the most basic functions aren't behind a pay wall, but MOST features will be.

Price of the system should be $429 low end-- $529 (larger hd + camera + better finishing?).

I'd prefer if it was $399 low end, $499 premium... those prices just sound better / are more attractive.

Day One regardless... but i think Sony would do well to say $399, as that would be insanely competitive.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

does PS3 still allow PSN game sharing?

havent used that in a while.

 

[Auto_aim1]

That is totally fine.
If I were Sony it'd be the sort of thing I'd have done.

Yeah, I hope they stick to that plan.

Never seen this before:

Interesting to see how the Share function works outside of the pay wall.

Probably gimped.

 

[zeopower6]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING has changed. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

Eep, a possible 100 for Gaikai... But it probably includes tons of free games, doesn't it? Hm...

 

[Ashes]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

That's it. I'm out.

Screw you sony.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

How do PS3 owners feels about this if the above is true?

 

[StuBurns]

does PS3 still allow PSN game sharing?

havent used that in a while.

It's reduced to two systems.

I don't believe basic online play is going to be charged for. It's not on Vita, and that has cross game chat. It's obviously not needed, it'd be awful PR.

 

[Plinko]

Did you read anything?
DRM is not system level, and you don't have to pay for online.

I believe you're the one who actually needs to read. He just posted that you will.

How do PS3 owners feels about this if the above is true?

I'm out Not happening for me. The worst thing would be Sony not exempting their own games from DRM.

 

[zerodayPopbot]

30 a year is nothing, but fuck Sony, you could have kept online play free.

 

[SniperHunter]

How do PS3 owners feels about this if the above is true?

$30 to play online games? hahaha

 

[thuway]

----- thuway is stupid and speaks out of ignorance with old information.

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't think it's real because I don't think they have Gaikai available yet. They wouldn't be able to introduce a price for that just yet.

 

[Holly Caust]

How do PS3 owners feels about this if the above is true?

Makes it harder to be excited for the PS4, even with all the rumored games.

 

[Uno Venova]

They want people to pay 100 a year for streaming?

 

[paperheart]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

WHAT THE HECK.



All this stuff is sucking the fun out of E3.

 

[Sorc3r3r]

DRM is real, but things can change. It's actually not Sony who wants to enable DRM. Sony will take the "let the third parties decide how to deal with it," approach. I don't know if Sony will exempt first party titles from it. I just want the bad news to get out of the way before you enjoy the press conference.

As for the conference itself, you will see some great stuff .

Thank you.
To me the most important thing is to have a choice, so if Sony is not requiring DRM system wide i dont care, more i can boycott actively the pubs going for it.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I believe you're the one who actually needs to read. He just posted that you will.

He posted afterwards, FYI.
And that sucks.

 

[Jondoyle123]

Frankly I'm at the stage now where as long as it works 100 % offline I'll pay $1000 for it easily!!!!!

And I would do the same for xb1

 

[SolidSnakex]

Those aren't even the best shots of the CG, need one where it shows outside the window here. I swear that looks like real life for a second.

 

[Red Blaster]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

well that sounds like fucking garbage

the xbone turning out to be a pathetic shit sandwich doesn't excuse any of this

 

[SenatorBot]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

We'll see if they've officially changed anything then since the rumours are so old.

How about the price of $429? When did you obtain that info? If it was during february again, it might have changed again.

 

[Auto_aim1]

Basic online play behind a paywall would be highly disappointing.

 

[DieH@rd]

I want GAF to prepare for the worst, so I'm going to put this out here right now:

PlayStation World will be a tiered premium service. Most likely paywall will be there. Still unclear if the most basic functions aren't behind a pay wall, but MOST features will be.

Price of the system should be $429 low end-- $529 (larger hd + camera + better finishing?).

I know its been posted before, but it's mostly right. If you are ok with the price, everything else should make you happy.

I expected this. ~400$ price for basic console and most of the cool features put into new PS+. MP has to remain free.

 

[zeopower6]

How do PS3 owners feels about this if the above is true?

I'd be getting the PS+ tier anyway for the games, but people are totally not gonna be happy if they have to pay to play online :/

 

[Empty]

going to be devastated if online play and netflix are behind a paywall

adding to the ps+ concept by expanding it to include sharing and gakai at a higher price is fine, but basic functionality has to stay the same.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Someone should make a new thread for the PS4 pricing/Online stuff.

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

I want GAF to prepare for the worst, so I'm going to put this out here right now:

PlayStation World will be a tiered premium service. Most likely paywall will be there. Still unclear if the most basic functions aren't behind a pay wall, but MOST features will be.

Price of the system should be $429 low end-- $529 (larger hd + camera + better finishing?).

I know its been posted before, but it's mostly right. If you are ok with the price, everything else should make you happy.

430$ for entry price would be good, it makes no difference with 399$. It's only a matter of perception, but again, 30 dollars don't make any difference for me.
449$ would be a bit high for the current market. We need to know also the price of Xbone as well.

The premium model was a safe bet. I'm ok with paying for extra servicies like instant game collection, gaikai, cloud servicies and so on. If the online play remains free it's allright.
I think that a concrete new infrastructure will worth the money. Every extra is, well, an extra.
Just don't touch our currently free things (online play, messaging, browsing, friend list). I don't think that is unreasonable.

 

[Moxx19]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

Lol nice try. Fuck off Sony.

 

[bebop242]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

That option A will cost Sony more then make them money.

 

[Stone Ocean]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

Online play behind a paywall? :CCCCCCC

 

[StuBurns]

http://abload.de/img/bwhow0.gif[img][/QUOTE]
The shot out the window to the left is the best, the lighting is insane, it looks like real life. It's overcast, so maybe that helps, but it could literally be a composite and I wouldn't know.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Things CAN change, but I am just being open about what I've heard. Like I said NOTHING is concrete. NOTHING is 100%. This is just the words on the lips of the folks in the know a few months ago.

Yeah I know, thanks for the info. I won't completely judge until concrete info is out, but it's hard not to expect the worst.

 

[CaptainTiptop]

Paid basic online play is such is an issue. :/ On the one hand, keeping it free will give the PS4 an (another?) advantage over the XBONE, but charging for it will net Sony a lot more revenue.

I really hope they don't do it. It's not on Vita, unless that will just work differently.

 

[Ashes]

I'd be getting the PS+ tier anyway for the games, but people are totally not gonna be happy if they have to pay to play online :/

And I have ps+, but what if I decide to cut down on my outgoings per month for some reason? if this also means, I don't get access to multiplayer portions of games I have already bought, screw sony, I'm out.

 

[andycapps]

How do PS3 owners feels about this if the above is true?

Paying to play online has been a given for me since this gen was announced and since Microsoft made it work on Xbox and 360. Sony won't pass up that much free money. So it's definitely annoying, but I'll pay it if it happens.

 

[maquiladora]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

*sigh* I was hoping wouldn't happen. Another annual expense. I suppose B is probably a good deal though.

 

[Sealion88]

im getting really sick of these insider rumors... its screwing with my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!1 im not reading anymore until e3!!!

 

[Chamber]

Online behind a paywall, $100 Gaikai streaming and $529 US dollars.

That's the sound of momentum flushing away. Great stuff to wake up to thugway, thanks.

 

[FuturusX]

I wouldn't worry about basic online play, that'll be free. I do wonder just how many features we've heard about so far will be premium-only though, that could be a downer.

Indeed but with the money I'm going to save by cancelling LIVE and not buying an X1, I should be good to go.

 

[Sidewinder]

Things CAN change, but I am just being open about what I've heard. Like I said NOTHING is concrete. NOTHING is 100%. This is just the words on the lips of the folks in the know a few months ago.

Thanks for letting us now, I'll just wait for the official announcements.

 

[we.are.the.armada]

Ugh, basic online behind the paywall? What's next, the internet browser and the netflix app too? What about sharing functions? So many questions, come on Sony...

Oh, nevermind, it's not official. Ok, oops, will wait.

 

[Gammacide]

I''l believe it when I see it. If Sony are really are going to start charging for normal services as Microsoft has done for ages, I am not buying a PS4. If they apply the same anti-consumer used game measures as Microsoft has, I am not buying a PS4. If the worst comes to pass at E3 then I have NO PROBLEM going out the very next day and buying a WiiU not just for spite, but for the pleasure of having a VIDEOGAME CONSOLE that I can just play games on and not worry about. I already plan on getting a 3DS XL anyway. Nintendo deserve to win if the other two big guys can't realize the position they are trying to force their customers into.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

Well Sony has just lost me as a customer cause i not paying to play online .
I also know there was going to be DRM i just wonder if you can go more into detail .
My hype has now really die because of this Fuck Sony why would you do this .

 

[operon]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

I've an avatar bet with someone that this would happen. That Sony couldn't leave that kind of money lying around

 

[sTeLioSco]

This information is a bit old and NOTHING new has come. I know Bruce is on the case trying to figure things out as well, but I think there will be an online play paywall. The tiered plan I am hearing will be-

A. Basic online play / cross game chat / streaming. (30 a year)

B. All of A. + PS Plus discounts / games (60 a year)

C. Gaikai Streaming (100 dollars a year)

Numbers were guesses, and this info is from a week AFTER PS Meeting.

WiiU + Pc forever.

 

[Sorc3r3r]

Damn basic online must remain free..
It's also a way to tease a lot of customers in the premium services.
Stupid, stupid move if true.

 

[macewank]

I don't think it's real because I don't think they have Gaikai available yet. They wouldn't be able to introduce a price for that just yet.

this folks.

those numbers can't be accurate. most of the Gaikai stuff isn't even going to work at launch (they've said as much) so I don't see how they could possibly be looking at pricing options already.

 

[IonicSnake]

I wouldn't be surprised if Remote play over the network will be behind a paywall while local remote play is free.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I'd be getting the PS+ tier anyway for the games, but people are totally not gonna be happy if they have to pay to play online :/

PS+ is a great deal, but paid online is such a low blow :C

 

[I-hate-u]

I am still not sure. 30 bones is not that much if provided we are getting a better experience. But its the philosophy of paying to play online on top of my ISP is not something I am comfortable with yet.

But, surprisingly, I feel this is will be a selling to 360 owners who are disappointed with X1 so far. I know 360 owners who hate the ps3 experience because of online. Their reason, PSN is free and Sony does not give a crap.