The Last of Us - Review Thread [Emargo up, scores in OP.]

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There's a little locally owned small business about 5 minutes away that specializes in used games (the closest GameStop is about 30 minutes away). I should call and ask if they're breaking street date on it.
 
antitrop said:
There's a little locally owned small business about 5 minutes away that specializes in used games (the closest GameStop is about 30 minutes away). I should call and ask if they're breaking street date on it.
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You should. And if all goes well you should also hook a brother up.
 
So guys, do you think Best Buy will have a few extra copies of the Survival edition? I pre-ordered a normal edition today at gamestop for the midnight release but I'm really kicking myself for not pre-ordering earlier :/
 
ViewtifulJC said:
I half expect one of the MS/Nintendo conferences to drop TLOS spoilers to screw over the competition.

Reggie: Hello, and welcome to Nintendo's 2013 E3 Direct. Last year, we showed you our new console, the Nintendo Wii U. This year, it's all abou the games.

*shows clip of TLOU ending spoilers*

Reggie: Oops! How that get in there? Let's see if we can fix this...

*shows Bayonetta 2 trailer, show continues like nothing happen*
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When did Eric Bischoff become the CEO of Nintendo?
 
Anastacio said:
Well, they have done mos things in the demo. But when they grab you the camera angle is different and I haven't seen one hold me up while telling another one to shoot.

There's also some bad AI sometimes. Everyone knows I'm having a shotgun as I just shot with it but sometimes a guy will still walk slowly up to you even though he is unarmed.

It also happens that when a guy knows you are behind the counter and walks up to it, and you then throw a brick behind him - then his focus will be on where that sound effect came from and he totally forgets you behind the counter.

I have played for a few hours more. This game gets better.
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That's actually kind of hilarious, and reminds me of some of the Chimera behavior in Resistance 3. Overall, the AI in R3 is pretty solid, but I've had some really funny moments where a Chimera would just stand there, looking at me, gun pointed, and just do nothing, or walk in place so I can head shot him.

On a related note, Resistance 3 is really fricking good. I loved all 3 games, but 3 is just, damn. I'd really like Insomniac to go back to the franchise at some point.

On topic, the AI in the demo seemed pretty solid, but I expect hiccups in these types of game. They can break immersion, but the fact that I'm playing a video game is enough of an immersion breaker itself. Lol. As long as AI hiccups aren't rampant, then I can shrug them off.
 
Have been playing the game all day.....

Guys, this is the game of the generation without any doubt.

Anyone who give this masterpiece below a perfect score deserve to be yelled at.

ND went even beyond their limitation which was already impossible and made a game that will make your jaw drops millions of times.

The amount of details is just CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

Whoever made this game aren't human... they are supper human.

Having the best time of the generation, enjoying every single moment... can't believe how much I'm enjoying this game.

You guys are about to experience something like never before... and you will remember my words when you play this amazing mind blowing game.

Dammit I can't stop playing it I don't want this to end :(

Why not all games like this?

It feels like a game from PS1 and early PS2 era.
 
The Praiseworthy said:
Have been playing the game all day.....

Guys, this is the game of the generation without any doubt.

Anyone who give this masterpiece below a perfect score deserve to be yelled at.

ND went even beyond their limitation which was already impossible and made a game that will make your jaw drops millions of times.

The amount of details is just CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

Whoever made this game aren't human... they are supper human.

Having the best time of the generation, enjoying every single moment... can't believe how much I'm enjoying this game.

You guys are about to experience something like never before... and you will remember my words when you play this amazing mind blowing game.

Dammit I can't stop playing it I don't want this to end :(

Why not all games like this?

It feels like a game from PS1 and early PS2 era.
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That is awesome! Can't wait to get it. If anyone does a live stream let me know. lol
 
Sorry if this was posted already, don't want to dig through the thread - three people from Naughty Dog are doing an AMA in about 15 minutes from now:

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/ask_me_almost_anything_with_naughty_dog/

We’re just a few days from E3 then the launch of The Last of Us and we’ve been getting some pretty solid review scores. With some well-deserved downtime happening for most of the Dogs, we’ve been given an opportunity to do something we’ve wanted to do for a long time now.

Please hop over to Reddit and at 1pm PST/4pm EST to join in an Ask Me (Almost) Anything with Max Dyckhoff, Programmer, Doug Holder, Visual Effects Artist, and Reuben Shah, Environmental Artist. They will be on Reddit to field your questions about Doug’s skateboarding skills as well as Max’s coding chops, and Reuben’s love of the Lakers. Also, they’ll probably answer some questions about how we do what we do here at Naughty Dog as well.
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The Praiseworthy said:
Have been playing the game all day.....

Guys, this is the game of the generation without any doubt.

Anyone who give this masterpiece below a perfect score deserve to be yelled at.

ND went even beyond their limitation which was already impossible and made a game that will make your jaw drops millions of times.

The amount of details is just CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

Whoever made this game aren't human... they are supper human.

Having the best time of the generation, enjoying every single moment... can't believe how much I'm enjoying this game.

You guys are about to experience something like never before... and you will remember my words when you play this amazing mind blowing game.

Dammit I can't stop playing it I don't want this to end :(

Why not all games like this?

It feels like a game from PS1 and early PS2 era.
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Is the game so good that the main character becomes a Don Quixote at the end of the world?
 
no money to buy but i want to rent it.
Are there any news how the german version is going to be handled? Dont want to play it toned down but killing humans seems rather brutal in tlou so it's a perfect candidate for cuts.
 
Donos said:
no money to buy but i want to rent it.
Are there any news how the german version is going to be handled? Dont want to play it toned down but killing humans seems rather brutal in tlou so it's a perfect candidate for cuts.
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Sony said, it's 100% uncut in Germany.
 
From reading what everyone said about AI (who have/are currently playing it), it seems like a really intricate AI system that doesn't work perfectly every time. Which is alright with me; very rarely are these things perfect, especially when human enemy behaviors in this game seem really unique. The fact that different people are reporting different results regarding enemies is kinda cool.

I'm one of the weirdos who likes to play these kinds of games super cinematically, keeping tight control of camera pans and messing around in the game for tension more than playing super effectively (learned this about myself when playing Heavy Rain and UC2), so I'm looking forward to creating as many different scenarios as I can with what they give me in combat. I can't wait for this damn game AUUGGHH.
 
ekim said:
Sony said, it's 100% uncut in Germany.
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wtf, did sony drop some big cash on the BPjM counter or what?
Cutting over the top games like Bulletstorm but letting rather "realistic" games with heavy brutality/gore uncut?

Well if true thats really nice. Still going to play it in english (like every game).
 
Donos said:
wtf, did sony drop some big cash on the BPjM counter or what?
Cutting over the top games like Bulletstorm but letting rather "realistic" games with heavy brutality/gore uncut?

Well if true thats really nice. Still going to play it in english (like every game).
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They rather moneyhatted the USK... :P when the USK gives a rating, it is basically impossible to ban it afterwards. God Of War 3 was also uncut...
 
Andrew. said:
At times like this I wish I lived back in Philly or even NYC.

So many indie shops around I know I'd be able to find a copy.
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When I lived in NYC for a few years there was always at least one place breaking street dates. There was one in Chinatown that was pretty reliable, lol. Last game I got early before moving again was Red Dead Redemption. Good times.

No small game stores here in my city in southern CA :T
 
ekim said:
They rather moneyhatted the USK... :P when the USK gives a rating, it is basically impossible to ban it afterwards. God Of War 3 was also uncut...
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Ye played through GoW3 with german version and it was fine. But God of War 3 was is not very realistic. You mostly slaughter non-humans most of the time.

Still good to know, now i know what i'm doing next weekend woohoo.

Edit: Just read on schnittbereichte.com that GoW.Ascension was also labeled as "uncut" but had some cuts/changes in the europe version. http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=27757

Hope this doesn't happen with TLOU
 
Finishing moving into the new house or....

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Superflat said:
When I lived in NYC for a few years there was always at least one place breaking street dates. There was one in Chinatown that was pretty reliable, lol. Last game I got early before moving again was Red Dead Redemption. Good times.

No small game stores here in my city in southern CA :T
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We dont have anything in South Fl either. This wait is starting to reach Bioshock Infinite levels of unbearable.
 
ohmygodohmygodohmygod I found a shop that will sell the game early, now its just a matter of calling every day to see when they have it.

My first early game :)
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(Oh and I live in the middle of nowhere by the way so maybe that will instill hope in some of you. I probably won't have it till around Tuesday or Wednesday though.)
 
While Id love to see what those ND guys have to say, there is way too much of a chance that some dicknose will drop a bomb spoiler out of nowhere.

F that.
 
If anyone has an extra copy of the game and is selling, hit me up with a PM. I'll pay extra to get this early for coverage on my channel! :D Thanks guys.
 
spannicus said:
I feel your pain. Ive been looking everywhere. Finally found a mom and pop store that says they break dates all the time but it has not come in yet. Took my number said he'd call me when it comes maybe monday. Its raining here and boring as hell it would be perfect to have now. I could really care less about e3 especially since those games wont be coming out until late this year mid next. Dafuck Sony.
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I work in downtown Manhattan and I've called all the stores that break street dates and none of my go to stores have it, Smh. Notorious video game stores in the Village and al l over NYC day they don't have it yet, so Idk how some of these guts have it. I generally get the game four days before release though.
 
The Praiseworthy said:
Have been playing the game all day.....

Guys, this is the game of the generation without any doubt.

Anyone who give this masterpiece below a perfect score deserve to be yelled at.

ND went even beyond their limitation which was already impossible and made a game that will make your jaw drops millions of times.

The amount of details is just CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

Whoever made this game aren't human... they are supper human.

Having the best time of the generation, enjoying every single moment... can't believe how much I'm enjoying this game.

You guys are about to experience something like never before... and you will remember my words when you play this amazing mind blowing game.

Dammit I can't stop playing it I don't want this to end :(

Why not all games like this?

It feels like a game from PS1 and early PS2 era.
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How old are you?
 
lovegames718 said:
I work in downtown Manhattan and I've called all the stores that break street dates and none of my go to stores have it, Smh. Notorious video game stores in the Village and al l over NYC day they don't have it yet, so Idk how some of these guts have it. I generally get the game four days before release though.
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Got a feeling alot of sellers on Amazon might have it and just claim that it ships on the 14th just to cover their arse. Im clueless especially when no ones saying anything either. Im in Jersey so if my connect come thru ill pm you. U might have to cross the water but its only 40 mins max from Manhattan.
 
The Praiseworthy said:
Have been playing the game all day.....

Guys, this is the game of the generation without any doubt.

Anyone who give this masterpiece below a perfect score deserve to be yelled at.

ND went even beyond their limitation which was already impossible and made a game that will make your jaw drops millions of times.

The amount of details is just CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

Whoever made this game aren't human... they are supper human.

Having the best time of the generation, enjoying every single moment... can't believe how much I'm enjoying this game.

You guys are about to experience something like never before... and you will remember my words when you play this amazing mind blowing game.

Dammit I can't stop playing it I don't want this to end :(

Why not all games like this?

It feels like a game from PS1 and early PS2 era.
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Looking at your avatar made reading this so much better.
 
Game's really good, but not perfect. Not at all.
It keeps me playing though, and that's what matters to me.
 
spannicus said:
Got a feeling alot of sellers on Amazon might have it and just claim that it ships on the 14th just to cover their arse. Im clueless especially when no ones saying anything either. Im in Jersey so if my connect come thru ill pm you. U might have to cross the water but its only 40 mins max from Manhattan.
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Lemme know too I'm in Jersey. The earliest I think I got a game was like 3 days early I bought UC3 on a sunday when it came out tuesday.
 
Called the only game store that I had hunch would break street date. The other local game stores would probably play by the book just because of how many stores they've put up across the state.

They didn't even have it. Who knows, it could be in his back room sitting in a box.

When I worked for GameStop I remember a few managers said they took copies of FFXII and Ninja Gaiden 2 home. But I rarely see a store around here do it.

I guess I'll just have to wait for my copy from NewEgg. Got it for like $45 over a year ago.

What sucks more is that the internet list people who've played through it. Not just reviewers, but its like this game is already out. A large majority will have already finished it. Such garbage.
 
ND on AI companions not being detected by enemies:

Max Dyckhoff said:
Hey thanks for the question; someone downvoted you but I countered!
That was absolutely intentional, and it was a very hard decision to make. As Sessler and a few other reviews pointed out, the alternative would be extremely infuriating. We are trying to make a game where stealth is an important aspect, and we knew we wouldn't be able to guarantee the buddy AI would be able to stay hidden as well as the player. If the buddies were seen by enemies, it would be extremely frustrating.
The buddy AI was actually what I have spent the last four months or so writing, and I think we did a good job of making them seem believable. Ellie will stick in cover with you and hunker under your protective arm, and she is good at keeping up with you.
The best thing is that because the AI is emergent, the playthroughs will be different for everyone, and different on successive playthroughs.
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Commenting on the AI in general:

Max Dyckhoff said:
Hi! I actually wrote a significant amount of the AI for the game, so I hope I can answer it sufficiently!
Yes, we managed to get a lot of reactivity in the AI. If they out number you they will be a lot more confident, if you out gun them they will be a lot more cautious, etc. They will hide from you, flank you, wait you out, flush you out, and coordinate to attack you.
There are a lot of systems running behind the scenes which make it all work, including some really neat environmental analysis, an upgraded pathfinding system, and ultimately some carefully hand crafted and tuned behavioural systems.
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^^^^Seriously!!

From the Reddit Q&A:

Programmer Max Dyckhoff on Ellie not being noticed:
"That was absolutely intentional, and it was a very hard decision to make. As Sessler and a few other reviews pointed out, the alternative would be extremely infuriating. We are trying to make a game where stealth is an important aspect, and we knew we wouldn't be able to guarantee the buddy AI would be able to stay hidden as well as the player. If the buddies were seen by enemies, it would be extremely frustrating.

The buddy AI was actually what I have spent the last four months or so writing, and I think we did a good job of making them seem believable. Ellie will stick in cover with you and hunker under your protective arm, and she is good at keeping up with you.

The best thing is that because the AI is emergent, the playthroughs will be different for everyone, and different on successive playthroughs.

The enemy AI will pay attention to the friendly AI if the player is "in combat". If you are sneaking around and being stealthy we do what is called "player favouring" and allow them to be unseen by the enemies. The alternative would be extremely frustrating, if a buddy AI accidentally revealed your location."
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He also programmed enemy AI:
"Hi! I actually wrote a significant amount of the AI for the game, so I hope I can answer it sufficiently!

Yes, we managed to get a lot of reactivity in the AI. If they out number you they will be a lot more confident, if you out gun them they will be a lot more cautious, etc. They will hide from you, flank you, wait you out, flush you out, and coordinate to attack you.

There are a lot of systems running behind the scenes which make it all work, including some really neat environmental analysis, an upgraded pathfinding system, and ultimately some carefully hand crafted and tuned behavioural systems."
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The Praiseworthy said:
Have been playing the game all day.....

Guys, this is the game of the generation without any doubt.

Anyone who give this masterpiece below a perfect score deserve to be yelled at.

ND went even beyond their limitation which was already impossible and made a game that will make your jaw drops millions of times.

The amount of details is just CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZY.

Whoever made this game aren't human... they are supper human.

Having the best time of the generation, enjoying every single moment... can't believe how much I'm enjoying this game.

You guys are about to experience something like never before... and you will remember my words when you play this amazing mind blowing game.

Dammit I can't stop playing it I don't want this to end :(

Why not all games like this?

It feels like a game from PS1 and early PS2 era.
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So this 7.5 game is worthy of praise after all? (Sorry)
 
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