Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features

That doesnt really sound bad, Actually.

That being said, there is no reason for Sony to not have this type of security. The ps3 and PSP cfw scene is the biggest financial fuck you I have seen since the Dreamcast. I mean, the last of us is already torrented by many.

Lol, I remember catching people having halo 4 weeks before release on their last played list.
 
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Welp
If this is true, it's gonna be one hell of a show :D

I want to believe
 
Click on the thumbnail for the Xbox One Game Setup Flowchart!

Splendid.

You could probably add "I'm at a public gaming venue" as another branch right where "I'm on vacation" is. That's the main reason why my tournament-going friends are pissed about this.
 
I'd love to see Kevin Butler back. For me that would win the conference on it's own (entertainment value).

He got sued, but settled and agreed not to work anywhere else without getting approval for a couple years. I imagine he would work with Sony again if they paid him well enough and he got back in their good graces.

I think Sony only has to approve commercials, he can act in Movies and TV shows, just not as the KB character which Sony owns.

I loved the But. ;)

But, I just thought of a great follow-up: Amy Sedaris as Carrie Butler. She could start out as VP of No Relations.
 
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

Oh really? Fuck you.

Exactly. There are still lots of folks buying and selling old games in this day of age. Take a look at eBay's listing. Hell, look here at Gaf with the Gameboy, Genesis, SNES, NES and so on of threads that have popped up as of late, with folks hunting down some games from flea markets, craigslist, anywhere possible.
 
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

Oh really? Fuck you.
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You are hurting devs and publishers. Every hour you play one of those, you're not spending money on new games. You owe Activision, EA and UbiSoft at least $100.000
 
I have a feeling (gaming) history will judge Xbone pretty harshly in the years to come. Really unfortunate in many ways.
 
So hey guys it's a miracle. I just woke up from a Coma. Last game I played was this cool game called HALO: Combat Evolved. What's new in gaming?
 
Since the trading is presumably online, couldn't people set up online groups for friends lists to have a group to trade with? (I give you X, you give me Y...) If so, that's pretty cool.

Imagine if you could trade Steam games this way.
 
I don't get this, someone explain it to the dummy.

"it's called the 360 because when you see it your turn around and walk away" (paraphrasing)

the person who originally said that obviously didn't think it through so someone made this gif

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I'm guessing the new gif is something like

"it's called the one because you turn 1° and walk past it"

I don't know, I just made that up.
 
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

That seems to be common with a lot of the defenses being thrown out for these policies. "Well, It doesn't bother me/I never cared about _____, why is everybody else so mad? Who cares?"
 
Well, if your friends use the same Xbone, yes. Apparently each account is tethered to a base console; that's also how the 24 hour check-in is reduced to a 1 hour check-in if you're using any other than the base console. Your account moves freely, but it's limited on consoles that are not yours.

10 Family members, not friends.

I'm assuming when they say "family members" they mean Xbox Live profiles that share the same console as their home console. So you won't be able to lend to friends if you have different consoles set as your home console.

No you can have 10 family accounts and if someone use one from that pool other accounts can't be used

You can't borrow your game to your friend on family account. When he will play console you will not be able to play yours. Same with family.

Only one person can play from those 10 accounts.

Wow...that's a lot more confusing than I thought. Thanks for the replies.
 
This is awful, anybody defending this abysmal console at this point is simply either A. A blind Xbox fanboy B. Works for Microsoft or C. Is getting paid by Microsoft to say they like it.

Any real gamer should be completely against this mess.

I don't think you get it Junior (who is obviously a shill for Sony, posting this bullcrap. True gamers love the Xbox brand).

You can go right ahead and play your old hat, traditional PS4 or WiiU. Meanwhile, I'll be in gaming heaven with the ability to let up to 10 members of my family play my games. I don't even HAVE 10 members of my family. This is a crazy value. I was kind of iffy about the whole Xbone because I always had it in the back of my mind, "what if my girlfriend gets pregnant with 8 simultaneous fraternal twins (all sons)?"

Now I know that my fears were for naught. Much like young Anakin, my fears blinded me from the truth of the Xbox brand. I can understand if the philistines in this and other threads all across the internet simply don't "get it". They don't understand that there is beauty in simplicity. The design principles behind the Xbone have maintained a steadfast focus, from conception to final reveal: Sleek. Hot. Instant. Transparent.

Sleek is the look of the system. It's a low to the ground, built-for-speed design borrowing much from the Aerospace Industry.

Hot is the way rich celebrities and sports stars have been unanimously raving about the compelling gameplay.

Instant is the digital delivery system, taking the Steam concept, updating it for 2013, and bringing it to the masses. After using Xbox Live, nobody goes back to Steam. There's no benefits there.

Transparent is the way the consumer interacts with the gaming experience. Do you really want to have to go to the mall to trade or sell your old game? That sounds like the 1990's to me. What I want is a system where I can add a stranger to my friends list for 30 days, after which I have the ability to sell a game to him or her if I do not wish to keep said game. I don't have to go through Gamestop, I can foster a real connection with a real person, perhaps even making a life-long friend. I could see this policy creating marriages.

Maybe these principles have left a bad taste in the mouths of some gamers with lesser palates, but when I look at those 4 keypoints above, I want more. Feed it to me, Xbone one, let it flow from your ethernet port. The thick, nutty taste of the Xbone experience is more than I could ever ask for.
 
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There are so many reasons to like you on here Cheesemeister. And you continue to add to them. Fantastic.

Man this whole situation just makes me angry. There's no need for all this junk to play a video game.
 
but when I look at those 4 keypoints above, I want more. Feed it to me, Xbone one, let it flow from your ethernet port. The thick, nutty taste of the Xbone experience is more than I could ever ask for.

Jonathan Swift is alive and well on NeoGAF, apparently. I salute you.
 
Sad reading posts from people who will accept these disgusting restrictions because they're so lazy they don't want to swap a plastic disc.
 
Sad reading posts from people who will accept these disgusting restrictions because they're so lazy they don't want to swap a plastic disc.

People do it all the time already and it's not limited to games. Books, music, movies...

I wish people would have been more vocal about this earlier, but I guess better late than never.
 
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

Oh really? Fuck you.
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This man speaks for me.

If Sony follows MS, I will quit modern gaming. I will spend my gaming money and time on retro gaming, keeping its legacy alive, like monks during the middle ages.

I will welcome all retro monks who wish to join me.
 
I don't think you get it Junior (who is obviously a shill for Sony, posting this bullcrap. True gamers love the Xbox brand).

You can go right ahead and play your old hat, traditional PS4 or WiiU. Meanwhile, I'll be in gaming heaven with the ability to let up to 10 members of my family play my games. I don't even HAVE 10 members of my family. This is a crazy value. I was kind of iffy about the whole Xbone because I always had it in the back of my mind, "what if my girlfriend gets pregnant with 8 simultaneous fraternal twins (all sons)?"

Now I know that my fears were for naught. Much like young Anakin, my fears blinded me from the truth of the Xbox brand. I can understand if the philistines in this and other threads all across the internet simply don't "get it". They don't understand that there is beauty in simplicity. The design principles behind the Xbone have maintained a steadfast focus, from conception to final reveal: Sleek. Hot. Instant. Transparent.

Sleek is the look of the system. It's a low to the ground, built-for-speed design borrowing from much from the Aerospace Industry.

Hot is the way rich celebrities and sports stars have been unanimously raving about the compelling gameplay.

Instant is the digital delivery system, taking the Steam concept, updating it for 2013, and bringing it to the masses. After using Xbox Live, nobody goes back to Steam. There's no benefits there.

Transparent is the way the consumer interacts with the gaming experience. Do you really want to have to go to the mall to trade or sell your old game? That sounds like the 1990's to me. What I want is a system where I can add a stranger to my friends list for 30 days, after which I have the ability to sell a game to him or her if I do not wish to keep said game. I don't have to go through Gamestop, I can foster a real connection with a real person, perhaps even making a life-long friend. I could see this policy creating marriages.

Maybe these principles have left a bad taste in the mouths of some gamers with lesser palates, but when I look at those 4 keypoints above, I want more. Feed it to me, Xbone one, let it flow from your ethernet port. The thick, nutty taste of the Xbone experience is more than I could ever ask for.
SOLD! Put me down for two now.

excellent post dude! I spat chewed m&m's on my ipad :p
 
It will sadly work won't it? They knew people would hate this press release, but if things die down and they have a good e3, major gaming sites will just go crazy over them.

Yeah probably. The whole reason they are showing the games last is to try and wipe the bad taste out of our mouths.
 
I don't think you get it Junior (who is obviously a shill for Sony, posting this bullcrap. True gamers love the Xbox brand).

You can go right ahead and play your old hat, traditional PS4 or WiiU. Meanwhile, I'll be in gaming heaven with the ability to let up to 10 members of my family play my games. I don't even HAVE 10 members of my family. This is a crazy value. I was kind of iffy about the whole Xbone because I always had it in the back of my mind, "what if my girlfriend gets pregnant with 8 simultaneous fraternal twins (all sons)?"

Now I know that my fears were for naught. Much like young Anakin, my fears blinded me from the truth of the Xbox brand. I can understand if the philistines in this and other threads all across the internet simply don't "get it". They don't understand that there is beauty in simplicity. The design principles behind the Xbone have maintained a steadfast focus, from conception to final reveal: Sleek. Hot. Instant. Transparent.

Sleek is the look of the system. It's a low to the ground, built-for-speed design borrowing from much from the Aerospace Industry.

Hot is the way rich celebrities and sports stars have been unanimously raving about the compelling gameplay.

Instant is the digital delivery system, taking the Steam concept, updating it for 2013, and bringing it to the masses. After using Xbox Live, nobody goes back to Steam. There's no benefits there.

Transparent is the way the consumer interacts with the gaming experience. Do you really want to have to go to the mall to trade or sell your old game? That sounds like the 1990's to me. What I want is a system where I can add a stranger to my friends list for 30 days, after which I have the ability to sell a game to him or her if I do not wish to keep said game. I don't have to go through Gamestop, I can foster a real connection with a real person, perhaps even making a life-long friend. I could see this policy creating marriages.

Maybe these principles have left a bad taste in the mouths of some gamers with lesser palates, but when I look at those 4 keypoints above, I want more. Feed it to me, Xbone one, let it flow from your ethernet port. The thick, nutty taste of the Xbone experience is more than I could ever ask for.

That's called a Redmond Steamer™
 
MS is essentially selling "movie tickets" for games, it should price them as such.
I have a feeling this industry is heading for a crash.
 
Here's what is going to happen with the shared family stuff, because its common sense looking at how similar systems work currently:

You buy a game.

You want to share game.

You have to make sure who you want to share to is on your list and matches MS's preset criteria. You can have 10 people who MS deem to be "family" on this list.

You have to add the game to your shared library, the game will now only launch from that library.

To access your shared library you will have to be connected to the net at all the times you are running stuff from it.

If someone is accessing a game from your shared library it will be unavailable to you but all your other shared games which aren't been accessed will be.

This apparently is awesome when compared to.

JUST GIVING SOMEONE A DISC.

There is no way Activision will allow 10 people to use the same copy of COD simultaneously and those that think there is any glimmer of hope of that happening need to have a lie down in a darkened room and have a word with themselves.

I actually dont think it will work that way. I think "family" have to be tied to one main account that is in the same household or part of a household. It makes it easier to share a game with someone in your household like your brother. For example, I buy Madden.. I'm not playing the game so my brother wants to play it. All he has to do is log on to our family account and play the game. It would be no different than him coming to the living room and grabbing the game. Or him taking the game to a friends house to play it. Log on to the family account from the friends house and boom, play Madden.

Why would they allow you to share a game with a random group of 10 people? They would lose 9 sales. But hardly anyone that lives in the same household buys two copies of the same game. So by allowing households members to share games.. they shouldnt be missing many sales because not many households buy multiple copies of the same game.
 
This man speaks for me.

If Sony follows MS, I will quit modern gaming. I will spend my gaming money and time on retro gaming, keeping its legacy alive, like monks during the middle ages.

I will welcome all retro monks who wish to join me.

I'm with you—though there's more to modern gaming than just Sony and Microsoft. plenty of great games outside of the creatively dead megapublishers

(and I'm not talking about wii u lol, though I guess that's a DRM free option)
 
People do it all the time already and it's not limited to games. Books, music, movies...

I wish people would have been more vocal about this earlier, but I guess better late than never.

The fact is that not everyone is affected by this DRM stuff.

Not everyone is a collector. Not everyone replays games or rewatches movies or rereads books.

I love my Kindle and read a ton more because of it. The books are cheaper than paper books (some aren't and I just don't buy those). I don't get stuck with a paper copy I will probably never re-read and just end up donating before I move (I don't plan on ever staying in one place permanently) and it's much better than hassling with library waitlists and due dates etc.

The books are DRM'd, but I don't care. I can read them on my Kindle or Kindle software on my phone, iPad or any of my computers. I'm pretty confident Amazon will never go under. And if they did there's software that can strip the DRM. But it's pretty moot as I pretty much never re-read anything anyway so I don't really care about the remote possiblity of losing my e-book collection.

It's all about the convenience of digital goods for me--with the BIG caveat that I expect them to cost less than their physical counterparts. I won't pay the same or more for an e-book than the cheapest print version on Amazon, I won't pay the same or more for an mp3 album as the CD, and I generally won't pay the same or more for a digital game as the physical one (making an exception for the 3DS Animal Crossing as it's a play here and the game and I don't want to be switching game cards all the time just to check on my town for a few minutes).

It does suck for people who like to collect physical goods as a hobby. Who want to make sure they really own the things they buy and can enjoy them for years and years to come as they like revisting things. And I feel for those types as the move to a digital media world will be very painful for them. And I get that the other media are different as collectors can (at least for the foreseeable future) still buy Blurays/DVDs, CDs, and paperbooks, and with Xbone even the discs are DRMd and basically just another way to transport the data to the console other than downloading huge files.

But that doesn't make those of us who like digital goods blind or naive about DRM etc. It's just that for us we see far more benefit than harm as we're not collectors, don't care about permanent access etc. I'm probably more extreme than most on that latter point as I'd prefer a world of digital rentals/streams for everything. Put every game, movie, album, book on cloud/streaming services and I'd happily stop buying and just spend up to a couple hundred a month in subscription fees for instant access to any game I wanted to play, movie I wanted to watch, book I wanted to read, song/album I wanted to listen to etc.

That's probably a pipe dream for my lifetime in terms of complete coverage of all content, internet capacity to handle it etc. But I'd love it as I love instant gratification and I hate being smothered by physical possessions beyond the essential furniture, clothing, TV set up, kitchen stuff etc. as I want to be able to drop everything and move for a new job in a new city or country at the drop of a hat and not turn down things due to hassle of moving everything etc.

So for some, digital goods just have clear benefits and fit our lifestyles better. Again I note the big caveat of pricing as I won't pay the same or more for digital goods. So MS and publishers can piss off if they are expecting $60 for new games that are digital or DRMd and can't be resold, with slower price drops etc. If it was a steam pricing model, I'd be there for sure. But I doubt we'll see that this gen unless it really bombs out of the gate and has to make major changes.
 
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