Redditor claims MS employees monitoring Reddit; making positive posts about the Xbox1

And everybody who does this deserves a boot in the ass.

At least GAF doesn't fuck around.

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lmfao
 
Yeah, If it is true then it is not possible for it to be a witch hunt.

Then it's just a "hunt".

witch hunt
noun
an intensive effort to discover and expose disloyalty, subversion, dishonesty, or the like, usually based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence.

(dictionary.com)

it's a turn of phrase. like how the crucible is really a metaphor for mccarthyism, etc.

That's where you lose me. We have people in this thread not only admitting such a thing (astroturfing) takes place but penning odes to it's magnificence.
 
It's more likely a purge, or a cleansing.
 
witch hunt
noun
an intensive effort to discover and expose disloyalty, subversion, dishonesty, or the like, usually based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence.

(dictionary.com)

it's a turn of phrase. like how the crucible is really a metaphor for mccarthyism, etc.
 
Isnt this obvious? I think every company does it. Even Sony for all you who think they are our saving grace.

Yeah I don't know how you combat this unless there's something really obvious. You will almost certainly have people accused of it that are just stating their opinion.
 
I blame them.

Just as I blame companies that have no respect for their customers, and companies that put profit above all other concerns (long term prosperity, improving their community).

It'd be nice if people stopped with the lowered expectations.

That's the whole point of capitalism. That's what they exist to do.

I know there are companies that don't do shit like that, but generally when a company goes public, and you get rich fuckers from the city buying stock and demanding more money from the companies they hold stock in without giving a shit about what they do or who their customers are, they tend to start caring more about making money... because if they don't, no one wants their stock... and they die.
 
Isnt this obvious? I think every company does it. Even Sony for all you who think they are our saving grace.

yep, you can be damn sure that all of the tech giants do this - Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Google. There is too much at stake for them to do otherwise, and they're probably among us here on GAF as well.
 
That's the whole point of capitalism. That's what they exist to do.
I should have been clearer really. I meant putting it above your own sense of dignity, respect, discipline, ethics or responsibility. Money isn't its own justification.

OK, I'm sure it is to some, but I call those people sociopaths.

yep, you can be damn sure that all of the tech giants do this - Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Google. There is too much at stake for them to do otherwise, and they're probably among us here on GAF as well.
Yes, and its a foul practice that deserves to be called out whenever its revealed.
 
Yeah I don't know how you combat this unless there's something really obvious. You will almost certainly have people accused of it that are just stating their opinion.

Now and then it does seem pretty obvious though lol..

like when someone replied to the Xbox drm news "oh well that sounds reasonable."

I couldnt hand but laugh.. surely that must be a PR ninja.
 
Now and then it does seem pretty obvious though lol..

like when someone replied to the Xbox drm news "oh well that sounds reasonable."

I couldnt hand but laugh.. surely that must be a PR ninja.

people are allowed to be stupid, no? (and hold... "stupid" opinions, etc. etc.)
 
Yeah I don't know how you combat this unless there's something really obvious. You will almost certainly have people accused of it that are just stating their opinion.

Hopefully, the negative response to any company who engages or pays a marketer to engage in this type of marketing will exceed whatever gains they get. Perhaps this will be the case for established name brands.

For example, we now are highly suspicious of anyone at all positive about Microsoft. True fans, even people who still want an XBONE, are less likely to express this opinion for fear of being banned or being suspected as a plant by a marketer. In effect, overall LESS positive posts are made than would be the case if none of this shilling ever started.

Anyway, hopefully this is the case. Any time a company is found to take a step forward with this method of marketing, may the public's perception of them and their products take 2 steps back.
 
Well, they do have deep pockets. I'm just going to watch their conference for the laughs. I hope at some point they change their minds about the DRM and blocking used games, but I doubt it.
 
what if. they were planted 5 years ago and acted like regular gamers just to appear normal and when the time was right they come out.

I'm sure there are a few, but they can only afford to do that so many times with the email restrictions and it takes an awful lot of work. GAF doesn't give lenience based on tenure either, so registration date won't help them :) this place is amazing.
 
For example, we now are highly suspicious of anyone at all positive about Microsoft.
One can be positive for Microsoft without having to contort themselves or offer up insane justifications... I just haven't seen it done yet ;P

I mean, OK, not having to deal with disks is a positive in my book. Same with background patching and updates. Day one digital downloads? Also good. Forza 5 at launch? Great. Controller improvements? Good. Attempting to come up with a system that allows for trading and selling digital property? Good... in theory.

But then you look at the costs, and holy shit, it all goes up in smoke. For every minor good there are a few horribads to sink any and all optimism or sense of Microsoft acting in good faith, and we still don't even know the full picture yet.

The best I've seen is "Well none of that affects me", which is hardly a positive endorsement.
 
Dosnt 4chan claim that Neogaf is completely run by Sony employees? Like I remember reading some article not long ago how they claimed that soon as the PS4 was revealed hundreds of people had Kaz added to their images and there was tons of gifs that seem to have been made long before the show. Then later you get people with the only on xbox jokes.

I do kinda wonder about those Kaz gifs.. who the hell would spend so much time on that? :P
 
I'm sure there are a few, but they can only afford to do that so many times with the email restrictions and it takes an awful lot of work. GAF doesn't give lenience based on tenure either, so registration date won't help them :) this place is amazing.

Well said... maybe too well said.

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That's where you lose me. We have people in this thread not only admitting such a thing (astroturfing) takes place but penning odes to it's magnificence.

all my point is re: witch hunt is that it's not about whether witches exist, it's about the (usual) collateral damage of people who aren't "witches" getting caught in the net because they have certain views.

do i think there's a witch hunt going on on GAF right now? no. like I said, you're allowed to be stupid—which is fine I think. we all say, do stupid things on occasion.
 
Dosnt 4chan claim that Neogaf is completely run by Sony employees? Like I remember reading some article not long ago how they claimed that soon as the PS4 was revealed hundreds of people had Kaz added to their images and there was tons of gifs that seem to have been made long before the show. Then later you get people with the only on xbox jokes.

I do kinda wonder about those Kaz gifs.. who the hell would spend so much time on that? :P

Nah, they just believe it's a very sony biased forum. But really, after the shit microsoft has been pulling for the last few weeks are they surprised to see a forum of any kind dedicated to gaming not root for sony right now?
 
all my point is re: witch hunt is that it's not about whether witches exist, it's about the (usual) collateral damage of people who aren't "witches" getting caught in the net but have... unpopular views.

Like yourself?

#teamwitchhunt

I've been told I was a PR person before :P and I'd probably make a good one too. If only life were so easy.

Yep.. getting to those 300 posts won't save you, Junior. 3 more months till you're in the clear.

Nah, they just believe it's a very sony biased forum. But really, after the shit microsoft has been pulling for the last few weeks are they surprised to see a forum of any kind dedicated to gaming not root for sony right now?

Heh, GAF is mostly an equal opportunity hating forum. We have a very, very selective memory when it comes to our favourite platforms being shat upon.

Previously it was for the Wii U's frigid reception and crappy sales beyond the launch period, and the 3rd party reception to the console.

Before that it was Vita = life, haz no gaems lulz,

Before that it was 3DS is ded, haz no gaemz, ambassador programz lulz OMG,

Before that it was the Kinect BS MS pulled off past 2010. benderE3kinect.gif,

And before that it was PS3 has no GAEMZ lulz.

Now it's time for MS to feel the burn with the Xbone.

And Sony WILL BE NEXT if they fail to meet expectations as the gaming's own personal lord and saviour in a few days time.
 
all my point is re: witch hunt is that it's not about whether witches exist, it's about the (usual) collateral damage of people who aren't "witches" getting caught in the net because they have certain views.
You make a fair point. I nominate we use the word shillacking instead.
 
Xbone Defense Form - Select One or Multiple

[] You are getting too emotional, allowing me to ignore what you say
[] Gamers are getting entitled again
[] You're a fanboy/You just hate Microsoft
[] NeoGAF/Reddit/the hivemind is biased
[X] Doesn't matter, you'll change your mind and buy the console anyway
[X] Gamers just don't like change
[] Gamers are just mad because it's not about them
[] Opinions don't matter, only sales matter
[] Debating about games is meaningless anyway
[X] This is the future
[] It's the exact same thing as the PC market because of Steam, so you're a hypocrite
[] My perfect internet connection invalidates your imperfect internet connection

I pretty much use this list as a filter. Yeah.
 
Read about this earlier on Twitter when one of my friends explained it to me. I saw the bishoptl post about the social media stuff before, but I'm really surprised that it's that blatant. Good lord.

Also, the War of the Worlds gif with bish/basically any gif with Black Snake Moan Samuel L Jackson=solid gold
 
Considering the fact that you can't be a fan of anything Microsoft-related without being accused of being on the company's payroll, I'll just assume that this is somewhat overblown. I won't pretend that this absolutely isn't going on, but I'm not cynical enough to think that anyone who has something positive to say about Xbox One is being paid to say it, especially since my own personal opinion of the platform based on what I've heard is still mostly positive.

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Hey guys, have you heard about the awesome new Xbox™ One? I will definitely be picking one up at launch so I can enjoy all my entertainment seamlessly with the infinite power of the cloud!
 
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