You ever try Mirror's Edge or Zeno Clash?
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Sony E3 press conference; June 10th 6PM PT/9PM ET
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You ever try Mirror's Edge or Zeno Clash?
PlanetSmasher
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Mirror's Edge made me physically sick to play. Total vertigo - I had to give up on it about two hours in to keep the migraines from getting worse. I really don't do well in games that have a ton of rapid camera movement and vibration like that. I like a static or controllable camera.
Never played Zeno Clash, but I heard it was super-janky.
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That's a shame about ME. I've only played a bit of ZC, but I've played enough to know it's definitely unique compared to the usual FPS. I figured you don't like FPS because of how same-y everything can feel after so long.
Right. I'm okay with another Killzone (MP) and a next-gen inFAMOUS should be excellent. But I'm ready for that "next-gen" experience that blows me away. SSM has the resources to do that.
Then you've missed some truly great games.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Well, you're half right. The sameyness definitely contributed to my dislike of the genre.
I'm also just not a fan of that perspective as a whole, partly due to the migraines and partly due to the inability to feel like I'm controlling a human being or a character in the story when I can't see them.
I really don't feel like I have. I've played plenty of shooters in my day. They never speak to me the same way RPGs or action/adventure games do.
Aw that sucks man, sorry. I have to think it's especially crummy for you with how it's become the over-saturated genre/camera perspective of choice of this generation.
JCreasy
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WORD!
This is SSM.
The things they could pull off with the environment alone would be absolutely breathtaking. And on PS4!? Shiiieet! Yes please!
Plus, this has got to be a passion project for them if they're willing to take such a risk. If they're heart is in it, that's great for gamers.
Interesting about your disconnect from the character. I get what you mean, I always feel more immersed in the environment in first person but care more about the character in third person. I love the immersiveness first person provides though. It's a shame your migraines are such a block for that. I really want more adventure, exploration based first person games.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
It's one of the main things that led to me becoming as jaded and pessimistic as I am. Everything seems to be a shooter these days, and most of them tend to be first person as well. It really makes it hard to get excited for next gen when that trend isn't showing any signs of slowing down.
I think that's the core difference between us. I don't play games to be immersed; I generally play them to experience a story or to interact with characters I care about. I find character interaction is almost impossible to do well in first person, especially close contact. Any time an NPC tries to hug my character in a first person game, I just laugh.
I don't project myself into a character when I'm playing the game. In the microwave corridor scene in MGS4, I was pounding on the button like a madman not because I was going to die, but because Snake was going to die. I wanted Snake to live. I don't have that kind of reaction in games where I'm supposed to imagine I am the character. I'm an actor - I do that kind of thing every day. When I play a video game, I'd rather someone else do that work for me and let me enjoy the story.
iirc Stig said he has been part of it since 2010. Definitely high time for it to be shown too..been long enough.
Also I'm really curious to see what Seth is up to at SSM.
Maybe the next IP from the B-team? Seems too late for Stig's game.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
The B-team can't possibly be working on anything new yet - they're still doing DLC for Ascension. If SSM is making an entirely new game, it has to be Stig's group.
Nah. I'm pretty sure they branch off the senior members to work on new projects. You think Pappy is dealing with Ascension DLC?
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PlanetSmasher
Banned
Depends on how substantial the DLC is. If it's bigger stuff like an entirely new game mode or new story content, you bet he's involved. Ascension just came out a month or two ago - they're definitely not far enough along to announce an entirely new game, even if there is one in preproduction. It's way too early.
Meanwhile, Stig's game has been in the works since 2010. They have to announce it at some point.
weevles
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Well, they have to announce the price if this thing is coming out in the Fall.
Now how much of a loss is Sony willing to take on the hardware this time?
Without the complexity and "overkill R&D" of Cell, and knowing all the shit they took from PS3's console launch, I think we can realistically hope for less than $400. Maybe $399.99?
Now how much of a loss is Sony willing to take on the hardware this time?
Without the complexity and "overkill R&D" of Cell, and knowing all the shit they took from PS3's console launch, I think we can realistically hope for less than $400. Maybe $399.99?
The_Inquisitor
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499 is my confident guess.
PlanetSmasher
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Sony can't possibly be that stupid. $499 as the baseline price is way too expensive in this economy. MAYBE for a premium model.
The_Inquisitor
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Sorry let me rephrase. 449/499. If they include a camera no way it's only 399
No SP DLC as it's too expensive (mo-cap and all that jazz). All DLC so far as been MP, and the next DLC is confirmed to be MP. Seth was brought in just before All-Stars -- his experience is in combat systems and balancing. That's why his input was largely useless for PSABR (came in too late). So, if the game started development in 2010 -- they need his input three years later? It's possible, but it wouldn't give me much hope.
DC1
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Anything Ascensions is a good thing to me!
Is it campaign related?
Edit:
Just read Muse. Darn it!
PlanetSmasher
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Seth probably isn't involved in Stig's game either. Everything I've heard about his role at Sony is that he's kind of a freelancer who gets sent to help studios out independently.
Verendus has said $349 is being thrown around inside SCE.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
I think they'll be smart and leave the camera out of the baseline box, then include it only with premium models. It's an unnecessary cost driver.
The_Inquisitor
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Depends how much Sony wants "Kinect" titles to come as multi. But given Sony's focus on the core they may pass on it.
Multi-quote isn't working for me. Am I alone?
The one thing Verendus predicted was wrong.
I'm inclined to agree. SSM tends to be the hub for lots of other developmental stuff.
I could be wrong. But I doubt it.
pieatorium
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Try STALKER it's very rpg story wise/quest wise as well as alot of equipment stuff just without skill trees and level ups
PlanetSmasher
Banned
They seem to help out with a lot of Sony's internal titles, and even occasionally help out second and third parties as well. Kind of like Naughty Dog's ICE team.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
How do you figure that?
We don't really know yet. SSM could be teasing someone else's reveals, for all we know. They'd definitely have a pretty good idea of what kinds of stuff Sony is making considering they work in some regard on almost every major SCEA title.
I guess the idea that if Sony is making it that low, they have to be getting their money elsewhere from services, etc. It's pretty silly to be honest considering Sony was taking a huge cut from every PS3 being sold when it first came out. Now while I don't think Sony is going to repeat that, they probably know they aren't going to get anywhere higher than $450.
Mr. PlayStation
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http://www.edge-online.com/features/listen-and-learn-michael-denny-on-five-years-of-planning-playstation-4/
399.99 US$ is the vibe I am getting!
399.99 US$ is the vibe I am getting!
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Sony has openly stated that the PS3's launch price was a terrible idea. They're not doing that again.
pieatorium
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PS3 was a failure of design on multile levels and shouldn't be considered as any indication one way or the other for future pricing.
Xbox 360 was 299/399
Let's hype this thread up with some GopherD quotes! So I think SSM's PS4 game is a good bet to show up at E3.
There are so many really frustrated devs at the moment who will be trying to gain attention for some damn amazing work over the next few days, and its getting drowned in (justifiably) negative shit.
If the industry decides to allow corporate wanks to throw handbags at 10 paces, then let them. Let's remember what makes us excited about working and playing in this field. Hype it up!
And let Nomura's Return be EPIC
Mikey Jr.
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What is the minimum wage in Australia?
PlanetSmasher
Banned
I really hope Gopher isn't full of shit. My heart can't take another disappointing E3.
I bought mine off eBay for 800 with games and accessories around a month after launch. Crazy how much it costed
Gopher is almost up there with CBOAT.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Reliable or not, I think you have to at least excuse my skepticism about Versus. We've been lied to before about that game.
Templar_Dante
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GopherD makes it sound like E3 is the day Sony officially declare war and subsequently pledges this gen to be like the PS2 Golden era.
I like the sound of it alot!
chicko1983
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the average wage in Aus is about the same as USA, and the US:AUD ratio is roughly the same, though back then it was probably 1USD to 0.8 AUD.
So the equivalent cost was about 800 US dollars, for people earning about the same amount. But add on to that, pretty much ever major city is very expensive to live.
There is no really justifiable reason for the expensive games in Australia, the taxes and import costs would not cover the whole mark up. Its just retailers being greedy.
I paid about $890 and then bought two games for $110 each at launch.
TacticalFox88
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Gopher has said in the past that Sony is "Prepared for War".
I'll gladly take up arms!
I'll gladly take up arms!
Callibretto
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man this starting to feel like a history in the making, and I live through it. felt like a movie almost, all this drama, tales of redemption, return of the king, preparing for war, corporate espionage and counter intelligence, decoys, ambush, baits etc.
someone should make a movie out of this. it'd be like tales of the three kingdom: console edition. lol
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