Okay that looked pretty fun actually. Just not Galaxy fun.
Super Mario 3D World for Wii U
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Okay that looked pretty fun actually. Just not Galaxy fun.
Yes that was kind of my point. Galaxy though had a different approach and just felt different because of the setting. 3d land and this game is more like they are taking the design philosophy of the 2d games and bringing it to 3d even having similar settings.
It's funny how people's reaction to the graphical style of this game is exactly how they reacted when 3D Land was revealed. I suspect when the game comes out, everyone will forget about their complaints and gush how good it is and how the style grew on them after playing it.
Looking forward to this.
Looking forward to this.
What I'm saying is that Galaxy was also a lot like the 2D games although not as much as 3D Land.
Dion Blaster
Member
Alright this looks so awesome. I am officially pumped. I think it could really end up being the best 3D Mario.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JooUqPF2Lf4
SOOOO much better than getting Mario Galaxy 3, I'm not sure how that's even a question. Only concern is that it will be as fun in single player, but the level design looks awesome enough for me to assume yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JooUqPF2Lf4
SOOOO much better than getting Mario Galaxy 3, I'm not sure how that's even a question. Only concern is that it will be as fun in single player, but the level design looks awesome enough for me to assume yes.
timetokill
Banned
Looks extremely fun 
Just what I expect from a Mario game.
Just what I expect from a Mario game.Yeah and I agree. Lol. Maybe I'm using words that's confusing you though. It's the setting that makes it feel so different. I've played the galaxies and to me it leans more towards SM64. It's like middle ground between the sm64 and the 2d Marios
Mario 3Dland seems like a much easier game than this so far, and with less extra gimmicks. Not to mention the bosses and whatnot.
{PleaseUnderstand}
Banned
I'm confused at to what everyone is complaining about. The game looks great. The little details you can see like the grass waving in the wind. I think once people have it hooked into their hd tvs they'll be singing a different tune. I know I can't wait to get this running on my 65 panny!!!
campfireweekend
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Ein Bear
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It wont even be 5 years later, it'll be the day after launch.
This happens every time Nintendo announce something. Everyone complains, says it isn't what they wanted, then it comes out and becomes a critical darling that everyone loves.
Or at least, they love it until the cycle starts again with the next game annoucement. Then Super Mario 3D Land becomes a shit game that they shouldn't be looking to for inspiration, apparently
NotoriousPUG
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You got me on NSMB, I played only a couple of them, but I did get over 300 Star Coins on 3D Land (you had to to beat the final boss) and it wasn't that difficult other than maybe one or two Star Coins that were hidden in weird ways such as walking through what looks like a wall due to the camera angle.
Edit: do you think NSMBU would change my opinion on the NSMB series? I had pretty much written it off due to it being incredibly easy and not many secrets. Is the latest version actually better?
Hooflung128
Banned
I haven't been a Mario fan in a long, long time. I've only got Mario galaxy on the wii and this will be the first Mario game I get on the wii u. Looks absolutely amazing to me and fun. People that come over will eat this game up.
Good job Big N.
Good job Big N.
It's a followup to 3D Land.
3D Land was a near-perfect melding of the 3D and 2D Mario games.
This takes that, adds more polish, and makes it 4 player -- with Toad and the Princess.
I'm baffled by folks complaining.
(Also, SM64 and SMS are exceptions to the rule that is Mario -- and as much as I like them, it's nice to have 3D Land/World finally bring Super Mario Bros. into true 3D gaming.)
3D Land was a near-perfect melding of the 3D and 2D Mario games.
This takes that, adds more polish, and makes it 4 player -- with Toad and the Princess.
I'm baffled by folks complaining.
(Also, SM64 and SMS are exceptions to the rule that is Mario -- and as much as I like them, it's nice to have 3D Land/World finally bring Super Mario Bros. into true 3D gaming.)
Hale-XF11
Member
but but...
I'm betting that will come to 3DS eventually. Besides, no rush when I just got done with DKCR3D.
isn't the camera (besides being isometric) fully controllable in 3D world? unlike galaxy where the camera can get confusing sometimes. Seems like a step up for me.
Also I'm 100% sure the game will have some really creative and awesome level design. The developers will have enough great ideas, if they would have tons of creative ideas for a new galaxy and no for this game we would have gotten galaxy 3.
Shin Johnpv
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Man the developers diary video has some awesome shit going on in it.
HiredN00bs
Banned
And like clockwork, Nintendo continues to disappoint. 3DLand is a great game...for 3DS, not your new generation console.
Your whole decision to buy a Wii was hinging on a new Mario?
Isn't that all that matters? That the game will be amazing and play well?
The few design decisions that disappoint from a few minutes of gameplay footage shouldn't cause this kind of reaction.
Not to mention that people automatically assume this is the next 3D Mario game of the generation.
Who is to say that another, more ambitious 3D Mario title isn't under development?
Dion Blaster
Member
I agree with the first two, but I have no idea where your complaints in bold are coming from. You can control the camera, the level design looks incredibly diverse based on all the videos, and we have absolutely zero idea of how difficult it will be. Unless you're assuming it will be the same as 3D Land?
Edit: And the Galaxy games really were not very difficult.
That's kinda what I was thinking.
JasoNsider
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I just want to say - everybody had best remember the somewhat tepid, luke-warm impressions for Mario 3D Land on here just prior to its release. That game went on to just blow me away. As did Mario Galaxy 1 & 2.
This team makes absolutely sensational, fun experiences. I'm so in, and will be taking design notes as always
This team makes absolutely sensational, fun experiences. I'm so in, and will be taking design notes as always
I think a lot of us had high hopes for something very ambitious, which this game doesn't appear to be.
If this looked good I would have bought a Wii U the day Wonderful 101 came out. Now I'm having a real tough time justifying buying the thing. I can understand someone saying their whole purchase decision was hinging on this game. Mario 64 was enough to justify people buying an N64 and this game had the same persuasive potential, just largely fell short.
Jaded Alyx
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You're expecting a Wii U game to release on 3DS?
Looking at that dev thing, maybe this will be to SM3DL like how NSMBWii was to NSMB. The levels seem pretty open, hopefully they'll be some short cuts that require some technical platforming. SM3DL was really disappointing because the giant coins never needed anything more special than a wall jump and the levels were so simple and narrow that there wasn't much room to experiment.
Cat Mario looks like a fairly inoffensive power up. It's not antithetical to platforming challenge like the Tanooki suit and that dive bomb and wall climb move could be useful to quickly getting around. I don't know why they brought the garbage time freeze from NSMB whenever a single person gets a power up. It's awful and ruins the flow of the game more so than any lag spike. They showed off controlling the camera with the Gamepad but hopefully you can just use the analog stick instead.
I didn't really want SMG3 and a sequel to SM3DL is the last thing I wanted but perhaps it will actual cater to the Mario series veterans if they're going to have all these call backs.
Is GAF the first place where you interacted with different people with different tastes and opinions?
Alex
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I liked 3D Land a lot, but I did kind of hope for a more genuine 3D platformer, but with that even a Galaxy 3 wouldn't have necessarily thrilled me here. Still, it looks nice and I'll bite. I'd just like to get another game closer to 64 or Sunshine again, someday, something a little more free-roamy. That's a stark contrast to older opinions of mine, but my how things have changed with platformers over the last five years or so.
Also, I assume, like everything else Nintendo essentially, that this isn't online?
Also, I assume, like everything else Nintendo essentially, that this isn't online?
Hale-XF11
Member
Sure, why not port it over eventually? I'd buy it anyways.
Dion Blaster
Member
Maybe I got a little overexcited. I was pretty crushed based on the live stream, but all the demos and the developer vid has really got me pumped again. 3D Mario is my favorite series, I'm excited this one looks so fun and especially with the multiplayer. I'm really hoping they try online though...
Local multiplayer provides better experiences something something. Last time I complained about this in a Mario thread I was told to get some friends
Dion Blaster
Member
They were, and my 2 favorite games this gen. I don't want a third one though, I want something different. This looks like a very unique take on 3D Mario, aesthetic similarities to 3D Land aside.
Prefacing this post by saying Super Mario 3D Land is my favorite 3D Mario.
I was initially skeptical about Nintendo bringing the title to Wii U. I loved the original for its focused, fast-paced gameplay and how it was tailored to the 3DS. The bite-sized levels were perfect for the system and the 3D added to the experience very well. It was the blend of 2D and 3D Mario styles I always wanted. It wasn't just a console Mario game ported down, it was its own experience.
However, now that I've seen the Developer Roundtable, 3D World looks much better. Actually seeing it play at full resolution is beautiful and crisp, and Cat Mario's wall climb is revealed to have a limit. Moving the camera makes the levels seem more open to go with the console experience and it does use the gamepad pretty well. Plus, Super Mario USA co-op.
It's looking more and more like 3D Land expanded upon and less of an up-port, which is excellent.
Nintendo is great at making games, but bad at presenting them. Doesn't help that the stream was running with janky freezes at 240p.
I was initially skeptical about Nintendo bringing the title to Wii U. I loved the original for its focused, fast-paced gameplay and how it was tailored to the 3DS. The bite-sized levels were perfect for the system and the 3D added to the experience very well. It was the blend of 2D and 3D Mario styles I always wanted. It wasn't just a console Mario game ported down, it was its own experience.
However, now that I've seen the Developer Roundtable, 3D World looks much better. Actually seeing it play at full resolution is beautiful and crisp, and Cat Mario's wall climb is revealed to have a limit. Moving the camera makes the levels seem more open to go with the console experience and it does use the gamepad pretty well. Plus, Super Mario USA co-op.
It's looking more and more like 3D Land expanded upon and less of an up-port, which is excellent.
Nintendo is great at making games, but bad at presenting them. Doesn't help that the stream was running with janky freezes at 240p.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
If it were Galaxy 3, I could have said that it was "literally a gussed up version" of the Galaxy games.
The bolded points above are baseless conjecture. There's nothing about this style of Mario that makes it inherently easier than the Galaxy games, and you've already made a decision based on a few levels.
I was honestly disappointed at first, but plenty of people said prior to the Nintendo Direct that they didn't want another Galaxy. I'm warming up to it. I do miss the orchestra, but it probably would have seemed out of place here. I did want a grander Mario, though.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I'm looking forward to this. I hope that Mouser, Triclyde, and Wart return.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Agreed.
Deputy Moonman
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I seriously thought it was for the 3ds when the video started. Looked cool, but sadly familiar (both New Super Mario Bros. + Mario 3d Land). Disappointed that it's supposed to be an actual Mario successor for the WiiU