SHAGOMETAL. Believe.
Metal Gear Solid V (PS3/360/PS4/XBO/Maybe PC) - Extended 9 minute E3 trailer
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SHAGOMETAL. Believe.
matrix-cat
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In the Konami pre-E3 video Kojima mentioned that he felt Big Boss could now express himself clearly through subtle facial animations, through the mystical power of the Fox Engine and Kiefer Sutherland. I'm desperately hoping this means Kojima won't feel the need to stretch every last conversation out to forty-five minutes and fill them all up with flowcharts and infographics.
I love MGS4 with all my heart, but jeez it's terrible. And awesome. In equal measures. Highest highs and lowest lows in the whole series. And most of those lows (now that I've wiped Johnny and Meryl from my memory) are due to that awful, awful script. Just wordswordswordswords, to the point where you can't even remember who you are or what year it is, let alone the understand the subject of the speech you're listening to. It's some of the most profoundly stilted and awkward dialogue I've ever heard in my life - I have nightmares about some of those between-act Mission Briefings to this day.
So, I hope Kojima learns some brevity, is all.
I love MGS4 with all my heart, but jeez it's terrible. And awesome. In equal measures. Highest highs and lowest lows in the whole series. And most of those lows (now that I've wiped Johnny and Meryl from my memory) are due to that awful, awful script. Just wordswordswordswords, to the point where you can't even remember who you are or what year it is, let alone the understand the subject of the speech you're listening to. It's some of the most profoundly stilted and awkward dialogue I've ever heard in my life - I have nightmares about some of those between-act Mission Briefings to this day.
So, I hope Kojima learns some brevity, is all.
Celestial Mortal
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There are people I know who YouTube'd MGS4 completely just because they didn't have the console to play on...
That's disrespect IMO.
That's disrespect IMO.
Misterinenja
Member
Go play something else then. And don't come back.
MGS4 is one of the reasons I bought a PS3 when I did, I guess MGS5 could be one to buy a PS4. (And subsequently be annoyed when the PC version is announced)
You don't run an open world game with this graphic fidelity at 1080p on current-gen consoles. There's no need to ven discuss that.
Because it's not true.
You don't run an open world game with this graphic fidelity at 1080p on current-gen consoles. There's no need to ven discuss that.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
oh my goddd
Yeah that was my thought as well.
Celestial Mortal
Member
The Les Enfants Terribles project....
Going by that Liquid was the superior and Solid was inferior despite that Liquid believed it to be opposite
Misterinenja
Member
Fanservice ruined it. Since Kojima is bound to make MGS games till the end of time, I hope he can use this as a sort of clean slate.
Again, to support the theory that
, for those who are thinking that.
"During the unveiling of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker at the 2009 Tokyo Game Show, Hideo Kojima announced that Liquid Snake will appear in the game. He also announced that the game will reveal exactly what made Liquid the way he was."
People tried to search Peace Walker for this, but it wasn't there. Phantom Pain is a sequel to Peace Walker, so we might see that story thread return.
Eli is Liquid
"During the unveiling of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker at the 2009 Tokyo Game Show, Hideo Kojima announced that Liquid Snake will appear in the game. He also announced that the game will reveal exactly what made Liquid the way he was."
People tried to search Peace Walker for this, but it wasn't there. Phantom Pain is a sequel to Peace Walker, so we might see that story thread return.
SJRB
Gold Member
MGS4 is stupid in many, many parts.
MGSV seems like a return to form though for Kojima.
1970 Chevelle SS
Neo Member
Where is my PC version Kojima!
Was thinking that also after seeing this.
Anyone else having a problem with the character design of "QUIET" the Sniper? I think Kojima needs to get with the times and cancel his subscription to Big Girls Big Guns magazine.
I mean here he is, trying to sell us that MGS V won't shy away touching on serious issues like child soldiers and torture, but yet, at least by the look of this trailer, he fails to treat women with respect?
It's a hot button issue and digging a box out of the womb of an un-narcotized woman in graphic detail doesn't help either.
I mean here he is, trying to sell us that MGS V won't shy away touching on serious issues like child soldiers and torture, but yet, at least by the look of this trailer, he fails to treat women with respect?
It's a hot button issue and digging a box out of the womb of an un-narcotized woman in graphic detail doesn't help either.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
How would that be "the missing piece"?
I thought Troy Baker was playing Kaz.
Given his "handling" of PTSD in MGS4, portrayed through women based on models in skintight suits who would pose for your camera after you destroyed their "beastly" armor, I couldn't have lower expectations for the real-world issues Kojima looks to tackle here.
Razgriz-Specter
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Whoever is voicing Ocelot is pretty good.
actual voice isn't great but he has Old Ocelot's speech pattern down.
actual voice isn't great but he has Old Ocelot's speech pattern down.
I never watched 24 so this is actually non-issue for me. :lol Now if I were to go through the 24 series, the weirdness would be on the other shoe.
I don't mind Ocelot's voice but it's his design that bugs me. Far too mousy looking.
Celestial Mortal
Member
Amen to that
Is this confirmed ?
Razgriz-Specter
Member
He reminds me of Doc Brown for some reason.
Looks a too old imo.
GOTF, Kojima the god of gods, etc
SJRB
Gold Member
Yeah I noticed that too. I can't believe they didn't ask Zimmermann back though.
reptilescorpio
Member
Would cap off the series perfectly.
biggersmaller
Banned
Excellent. Though that sniper chick needs to put some clothes on. I mean, I love skin...when appropriate.
Razgriz-Specter
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Dick Justice
Banned
I'm trying to understand - does Eli appear pre or post Boss coma? If it's pre-coma and he looks what? Between 10 and 15 (rough estimate)? That makes him in his twenties upon Big Boss's awakening (Coma is 9 years apparently).
That means...
IF he even makes an appearance at whatever point during the game.
The above is providing I'm on the right path and Eli is at a specific age, and whether or not he appears as we see him in the trailer pre-coma.
That means...
Solid Snake would be in his twenties by then which could mean David Hayter could voice him...
The above is providing I'm on the right path and Eli is at a specific age, and whether or not he appears as we see him in the trailer pre-coma.
No way the game's going to cover all those years
BB wakes from his coma in 1984 and the clone snakes are about 12 years old at that time so no that can't be pre-coma.
Unless... RETCON
BB wakes from his coma in 1984 and the clone snakes are about 12 years old at that time so no that can't be pre-coma.
Unless... RETCON
SammiiDoogles
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I must have watched this trailer 20 times by now, so good.
When the music really kicks in at around 7:13, gets me every time.
I find it hard to be exited for any other games after this. Got my copy of TLoU yesterday and just didn't feel like playing it... (I did though in the end, what a game - bleak though.)
Still skeptical about Keifer as Big Boss, but if they pulled Hayter out at the end as Solid Snake somehow - all would be forgiven.
Also, dem graphics. Holy shit.
When the music really kicks in at around 7:13, gets me every time.
I find it hard to be exited for any other games after this. Got my copy of TLoU yesterday and just didn't feel like playing it... (I did though in the end, what a game - bleak though.)
Still skeptical about Keifer as Big Boss, but if they pulled Hayter out at the end as Solid Snake somehow - all would be forgiven.
Also, dem graphics. Holy shit.
Holy fuck. Would be incredible.
I already miss Hayter. Not that Kiefer sounded bad based on the tiny bit we've heard, but it just feels weird.
Agreed. I really feel like it's Troy Baker, but I could be wrong. Whoever it is, I like it.
The one thing that is puzzling me the most is the role of Kaz/Master Miller. Before Peace Walker Miller was an unimportant character, you only really "met" him in MG2 and in MGS1 he just turned out to be Liquid in disguise, as Liquid presumably killed him.
Now all of a sudden we find out he has a MAJOR role in the creation of Outer Heaven and has a close relationship with Big Boss. So the question is what the fuck happens to him especially after the events of MG1 and MG2 when BB is gone? Who really killed him and why? And why is he wearing a trench coat like he's Big Boss or something?
Snake/Big Boss needs to start sporting that trench coat now he's no longer Naked Snake he is the legend Big Boss, creator of Outer Heaven, and The Boss's successor. So there better be a fucking tench coat outfit for Snake too.
Now all of a sudden we find out he has a MAJOR role in the creation of Outer Heaven and has a close relationship with Big Boss. So the question is what the fuck happens to him especially after the events of MG1 and MG2 when BB is gone? Who really killed him and why? And why is he wearing a trench coat like he's Big Boss or something?
Snake/Big Boss needs to start sporting that trench coat now he's no longer Naked Snake he is the legend Big Boss, creator of Outer Heaven, and The Boss's successor. So there better be a fucking tench coat outfit for Snake too.
Don't tell me what to do. I actually find the gameplay of MGS quite fun when it's not full of contrived cutscenes which are riddled with shit dialogue or stuff that doesn't make any sense. It's been my only gripe with the series, if they're actually caring about voice acting this time round then they should add writing to match.
Celestial Mortal
Member
I think his point is that you might as well back out now. Of course Kojima will be crafting the story for MGS V. Either writing it himself or overseeing it. Really no point in hoping otherwise.
biggersmaller
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deddonpachi
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Like I said, never said I wouldn't buy the game because of it but I'll just wont pay any attention because it will be like climbing up shit mountain.
I agree and it would fit perfectly to finish the story. All that's left literately after this is if he remakes the original. Wouldn't it be awesome if we finds out that this game has 3 time periods and the last half of the game is MG1 and it comes to end with Big Boss fighting Snake? It's a fantasy I know but, man one could imagine.
PLASTICA-MAN
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I could translate only 2 words of the persian inscriptions on the wall: " كوى " meaning port lights and " كورو " meaning label. The rest of the words are half erased. Is there any native persian speaking here to help us DEcipher the full code?
