Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

HA! As far as the character roster goes, I'd say that Toon Link, Wolf, Lucario, 1st Gen Pokemon Trainer, Lucas, and Ike are all interchangeable for other characters in their respective series.

Ike will very likely be exchanged for Chrom since he's the main character from Fire Emblem: Awakening.

Mewtwo/Mewtwin will likely replace Lucario, while a new Pokemon Trainer from a different generation could appear in the original's place.

Lucas should trade places with his brother, Claus, as the Masked Man.

Snake might not return either, but Sonic has a big chance of being kept within the roster.
 
There seems to be some confusion about this -- there are NO plans for daily site updates in the vein of the Brawl Dojo as of now. Sakurai's just uploading a new screen shot each day. That's it.
 
My excitement for this game just went up 2 fold after the 1080p announcement. Glad nintendo decided to up the resolution instead of making the graphics better at 720p.
Damn this is gonna look amazing.
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There seems to be some confusion about this -- there are NO plans for daily site updates in the vein of the Brawl Dojo as of now. Sakurai's just uploading a new screen shot each day. That's it.
No plans at this time, anyway. The past three Smash games had Dojos in Japan; it's not a huge stretch to assume this one will eventually get one, too. However, Brawl's website wasn't much more than Smash 4's is presently, back when it was first announced in 2006, and it stayed that way for months... If there is going to be a Dojo, and not just daily images (which is still more than we got in 2006, I'll note), it's similarly gonna be a good deal of time away.
 
There seems to be some confusion about this -- there are NO plans for daily site updates in the vein of the Brawl Dojo as of now. Sakurai's just uploading a new screen shot each day. That's it.



Yeah, plus the website seems sloppily put together. I assume they will work on that later down the line.
 
Miiverse. Also they posted that on Smash page, where you see picture that contained Wii Fit Trainer at the moment. That picture frame will change daily during weekday.

Heres hoping we will get more concrete info down the road sooner rather than later. Screenshots are ok for now lol. And we will probably get info through interviews in the upcoming weeks to keep us going.
 
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That's not just shooting the shit. Sakurai is totally feeling out expectations for Pac-Man because Pac-Man is in the game.

I'm not giving up yet no the hope that Valkyrie made it, since she's kinda popular in Japan and would be simpler to adapt, and if that were true this would be Sakurai toying with people's expectations (and forcing them to come up with gameplay for a character known for only using its mouth...), but that dang prediction hovers over this....



Might as well go with the JAM Project version
 
No plans at this time, anyway. The past three Smash games had Dojos in Japan; it's not a huge stretch to assume this one will eventually get one, too. However, Brawl's website wasn't much more than Smash 4's is presently, back when it was first announced in 2006, and it stayed that way for months... If there is going to be a Dojo, and not just daily images (which is still more than we got in 2006, I'll note), it's similarly gonna be a good deal of time away.
I did say "as of now." But yeah, that's all true. It was actually a year between both Brawl sites, but hopefully the wait isn't as long this time around.
 
No plans at this time, anyway. The past three Smash games had Dojos in Japan; it's not a huge stretch to assume this one will eventually get one, too. However, Brawl's website wasn't much more than Smash 4's is presently, back when it was first announced in 2006, and it stayed that way for months... If there is going to be a Dojo, and not just daily images (which is still more than we got in 2006, I'll note), it's similarly gonna be a good deal of time away.

I always thought having a channel for smash like the community for miiverse would be great way to generate more buzz for the game. Im still shocked its happening. There is so much they could do with it to keep users engaged.
 
HA! As far as the character roster goes, I'd say that Toon Link, Wolf, Lucario, 1st Gen Pokemon Trainer, Lucas, and Ike are all interchangeable for other characters in their respective series.

Snake might not return either, but Sonic has a big chance of being kept within the roster.

I would replace Toon Link with Skullkid, Midna, or someone from Skyward Sword. Then with Earthbound i'd want Kumatora in. Hoping Sonic makes a return to SSB, or else i'll be sad. I have to have my Sonic vs Megaman.
 
Everyone does realize that they can increase the size of the game cards, right? There is literally no technical reason why the 3DS could support the same number of characters as the Wii U.

Memory is another issue. The amount of RAM on the 3DS is limited, and that will make some of the busier characters (like Olimar) problematic. Not that they aren't possible, but having all that going on could cause serious lag due to memory limitations, which means those characters will need to be reworked to make them playable.

But the idea that they might be cutting characters due to not enough space to hold them is pretty ridiculous.
 
I did say "as of now." But yeah, that's all true. It was actually a year between both Brawl sites, but hopefully the wait isn't as long this time around.

A year? I know that Brawl Dojo went up at May 22, 2007. They finished with starter characters in Jan 2008 if I remembered right. That would be about 8 months or so.

I would assume that we might get new Dojo during early 2014 if we are getting Fall Release.
I would assume that we might get new Dojo during July-Sept if we are getting Spring Release (which I doubt)
I would assume that we might get new Dojo during Oct-Dec if we are getting Summer Release.
 
Third-party characters shouldn't have clones. That takes away from their "aura" and makes them feel less special. Am I wrong in thinking that?

I think clones should be done away with in general. Make clones just a skin. Do the same for star fox.

Also can we please adjust ganondorf. It's embarrassing to have him be a capt falcon clone.
 
A year? I know that Brawl Dojo went up at May 22, 2007. They finished with starter characters in Jan 2008 if I remembered right. That would be about 8 months or so.
The first Brawl site (similar to the current SSB4 site) went up in May 2006. The redesigned, updated-daily Dojo went up in May 2007. That's a year.
 
A year? I know that Brawl Dojo went up at May 22, 2007. They finished with starter characters in Jan 2008 if I remembered right. That would be about 8 months or so.

I would assume that we might get new Dojo during early 2014 if we are getting Fall Release.
I would assume that we might get new Dojo during July-Sept if we are getting Spring Release (which I doubt)
I would assume that we might get new Dojo during Oct-Dec if we are getting Summer Release.
In your calculations, you forget that Brawl was actually delayed. It was scheduled for holiday 2007 when dojo first opened and then got delayed to March.
 
In your calculations, you forget that Brawl was actually delayed. It was scheduled for holiday 2007 when dojo first opened and then got delayed to March.


Nope, I didn't forget. They announced Sheik and Olimar as last two starter characters during Jan 2008 before they release the game in Japan. I'm fully aware of supposedly release date, which is Dec 3rd, 2007. The meltdown was insane when they found out that the game got delayed.
 
Hoping Sonic makes a return to SSB, or else i'll be sad. I have to have my Sonic vs Megaman.
It'll be just like the Archie crossover!

Plus you could pose the inevitable trophies of Dr. Eggman and Dr. Wily together. The best evil bromance in comics or video games alike, that. (I think those wrestling streams call these two "The Practice" or something...?)

I must have missed it, but was 1080p confirmed?
Apparently.

So, gentlemen. Protoman is almost a shoe-in for a clone character.

What do you think?
Protoman is a shoe-in for an Assist Trophy, a la Shadow or Gray Fox. I don't see a second character from the same third-party franchise getting in.

In your calculations, you forget that Brawl was actually delayed. It was scheduled for holiday 2007 when dojo first opened and then got delayed to March.
On that note, I'll be very pleasantly surprised if the game actually makes 2014.
 
Protoman is a shoe-in for an Assist Trophy, a la Shadow or Gray Fox. I don't see a second character from the same third-party franchise getting in.

On that note, I'll be very pleasantly surprised if the game actually makes 2014.

Well, I would bet for Roll but it would be nice if we get Protoman or Dr. Light as well.

I would be surprised if we are getting the game during 2014.
 
In speaking of dojo... I remember when some people had a meltdown in smashboards when Sakurai took a holiday break from updating the site. How dare Sakurai take a week break so he can be with his family?! THE NERVE!!! :lol
 
I hope Mega Man is actually fun to play with gameplay wise. I have tons of nostalgia for Sonic but I ended up never really choosing him because of how boring he was in brawl. All sonic could pretty much do is run up and hit you super close range. No variety or uniqueness to him at all outside of his run speed. It's rather depressing to think how much I loved that sonic was in brawl compared to how much I ended up using him.

Hopefully Mega Man will get more use from me. It'll be mega disappointing if he turns out to be useless for some reason.

Bonus points if they can also spice up Sonic somehow, though I don't really know how. Spin Dash, Homing Ball, and run up and hit you is about the only things he's ever done in any game as far as I know. Maybe let him use items from the racing games? Maybe add Tails to his moveset somehow? I don't know.
 
Well, I would bet for Roll but it would be nice if we get Protoman or Dr. Light as well.

I would be surprised if we are getting the game during 2014.

I forgot about Roll. There are a lot of potential ATs from megaman that id like to see.

In speaking of dojo... I remember when some people had a meltdown in smashboards when Sakurai took a holiday break from updating the site. How dare Sakurai take a week break so he can be with his family?! THE NERVE!!! :lol

I think i remember that. Lol
 
In speaking of dojo... I remember when some people had a meltdown in smashboards when Sakurai took a holiday break from updating the site. How dare Sakurai take a week break so he can be with his family?! THE NERVE!!! :lol

Speaking of the holidays, I very much hope that our Santa penguin friend returns to the new games as well. King Dedede was one of Brawl's most unique newcomers, with his mechanized mallet, his fully functional minions, and his suspicious eyeballs.
 
I hope Mega Man is actually fun to play with gameplay wise. I have tons of nostalgia for Sonic but I ended up never really choosing him because of how boring he was in brawl. All sonic could pretty much do is run up and hit you super close range. No variety or uniqueness to him at all outside of his run speed. It's rather depressing to think how much I loved that sonic was in brawl compared to how much I ended up using him.

Hopefully Mega Man will get more use from me. It'll be mega disappointing if he turns out to be useless for some reason.
Mega Man seems to be the exact opposite - not too awesome at close range, excels at projectiles.
 
Speaking of the holidays, I very much hope that our Santa penguin friend returns to the new games as well. King Dedede was one of Brawl's most unique newcomers, with his mechanized mallet, his fully functional minions, and his suspicious eyeballs.
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He's probably in, considering he's one of Sakurai's baybays.
 
So good that Sakurai is not considering DLC for this game.. not at least till it is in the market.
I just love the fact that he's so passionate about throwing as much content as possible into his games. What developer does that nowdays?

I have so much respect for him and his team.
 
Also can we please adjust ganondorf. It's embarrassing to have him be a capt falcon clone.

Yes.

I know this is talked about on nearly every page, but maybe if this is louder than ever, Sakurai will take a hint: Ganon is a unique character, with a moveset developed over many games now.

Take advantage of that history.
 
It'll be just like the Archie crossover!

Plus you could pose the inevitable trophies of Dr. Eggman and Dr. Wily together. The best evil bromance in comics or video games alike, that. (I think those wrestling streams call these two "The Practice" or something...?)

Heck yeah, can you just imagine!! It'd be great! Haha. Honestly, I would definitely do that with them two. :P

 
You know, I was just thinking. It seems that Mega Man's moveset features weapons from 1-8, but then I realized there's nothing from 4 or 5. I know the developer video showed that he had the Top Spin. You suppose they left these out or there are moves we haven't seen yet?
 
Everyone does realize that they can increase the size of the game cards, right? There is literally no technical reason why the 3DS could support the same number of characters as the Wii U.

Memory is another issue. The amount of RAM on the 3DS is limited, and that will make some of the busier characters (like Olimar) problematic. Not that they aren't possible, but having all that going on could cause serious lag due to memory limitations, which means those characters will need to be reworked to make them playable.

But the idea that they might be cutting characters due to not enough space to hold them is pretty ridiculous.
I thought the 3DS beat the GameCube and Wii in memory size by a substantial amount? If anything, it would be that the CPU in 3DS just isn't that great. Considering the amount of things that can be happening in Smash, if they want the game to run online, maintaining 3D and 2D compatibilty, (are they trying to hit 60fps with 3D on in this?) some things are gonna get pared down. It's down to sheer horsepower on this one, not game size or memory restraints.
 
Third-party characters shouldn't have clones. That takes away from their "aura" and makes them feel less special. Am I wrong in thinking that?

No, but there shouldn't be any clones at all. Not even Luigi has an excuse now after Luigi's Mansion 2.

So, gentlemen. Protoman is almost a shoe-in for a clone character.

What do you think?

How about no clones, and just make him an alt costume along with like roll or something.

More clone bullshit is the last thing I fucking want in this game. If Wii Fit Trainer has to be in the roster so there can be no clones then I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice that roster spot, that should have gone to a much more deserving character of other franchises.
 
Assist trophy is what I can see happening.

No, I'm seeing Pushmo being used as one of those handheld exclusive stages Sakari talked about, and Mallo's there to change the stage while people are fighting on it.

It just makes too much sense.
 
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