Well, a dead franchise like SF got 3 representatives...
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Well, a dead franchise like SF got 3 representatives...
dryuriev7777
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So is it weird that the one thing I'm looking forward to over new characters and stages and such is the soundtrack? Brawl had a superb variety, and I'm really curious to see if they decide to go crazy with this game too and get every composer under the sun to do arrangements. I'm especially excited to see what they do with KI: Uprising, Mario Galaxy, and the new gens of Pokemon's music.
Galaxy music arranged by Michiko Naruke would be so amazing.
Galaxy music arranged by Michiko Naruke would be so amazing.
peanutbutterlatte
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Wolf is still more clone than not clone. I won't shift on that. I would not cry if he went. Him and Falco are pretty interchangeable.
That would be great! It would certainly make him more unique. Preferably both him and Falco would stay.
Exactly what I was thinking! With FE as popular as it is now, I'm sure they can keep Marth while adding Lucina and Chrom.
Wolf is less of a clone than Falco.
I don't want to see either of them go. Falco is a badass, while Wolf is a badass and is more unique.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Wolf could steal Snake's final smash, except using the Wolfen.
Agreed. I just see him (or falco) as easier to replace since they're loose clones of Fox. TreIII did say that Sakurai wanted to work with Wolf's character in the future, so it's more than likely that he's sticking around.
Hands off my prey!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I think Marth is iconic too, but Awakening was a pretty huge success. I wouldn't be surprised if Awakening "Marth" replaced him, though I find it unlikely.
So with Arena Ferox being in the 3DS version, and Awakening's popularity there's no way Chrom isn't in I feel. Hopefully Ike stays in as well, but Chrom wouldn't feel too out of place with his moveset (with perhaps a slight update...class change mechanic? Lances?) and he has Aether too.
Red Rudolph
Member
It's been confirmed by Sakurai that those blades you've marked as B moves can be thrown in 8 directions. Any idea how that'll work?
I'm hoping "Marth" gets in just to see people's reaction at this point.
Probably just tap B and then quickly tilt a direction or none at all.
It is pretty amusing seeing which people clearly didn't play Awakening.
Tilt the control stick in a direction right after pressing B.
While that is true...
How else do you interpret this quote? It sounds like the 3DS is going to hold back the Wii U version in the playable characters department because they don't want to make it look like the 3DS version is inferior.
even though it's inferior no matter what
I'm disappointed too. There are only two games that would get me to spend ALL my money on DLC:
-Smash Bros
-Marvel vs. Capcom
MVC3 had barely any DLC, and it looks like Smash might not have any at all. What a bummer.
I'm all for "Marth" being in.
I don't know. I like Falco more, but Wolf is the one that is more unique.
I don't know. I like Falco more, but Wolf is the one that is more unique.
Stone Ocean
Member
Like Link's boomerang, perhaps?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Fox is Ryu, Falco is Ken, Wolf is Akuma. They all follow a similar formula, but the first two have differences only immediately noticeable in competitive play, whereas Ryu/Fox and Akuma/Wolf have massively obvious differences even if they have significantly similar movesets.
I'd be way more down with Fox/Wolf than Fox/Falco.
I'd be way more down with Fox/Wolf than Fox/Falco.
Incendiary
Banned
As far as I'm concerned, anybody who's appeared in at least two games is likely not going to be cut. The original 12 and anybody that went from Brawl to Melee is safe. It's only Brawl-only people that will likely be cut. At least in my opinion. Also, Marth is the most popular FE lord so there's no way he's going to be cut anyway.
Likely it'll be something like if you tap B you just throw it normally, but if you hold it, you hold the blade like an item and then can throw the blade like an item, since he said it could be picked up as well.
I wholeheartedly agree. I'd prefer even the clones to stick around. The problem is that they end up being sacrifices so the roster size doesn't get out of control. People are always going to expect new characters in Smash so it's only natural for some of the previous roster to get removed. =/ The only guaranteed characters in my mind are the Smash 64 roster
To be fair, roster size was more of an issue when Sakurai was basically stuck with the task of balancing characters largely by himself and a select few other testers. And even there, a "manageable" roster size didn't stop the likes of METAKNIGHT from happening.
But now that we've got people who've worked on the Tekken and Gundam Vs. series (whose latest respective entries had upwards of 50-60+ characters to play)? There really shouldn't be any excuses this time. Blow up that roster size and let people who know what they're doing do what they're paid to do, I say.
Mario Kart 8 seems to be doing it, so I imagine Smash will too.
Troubled Bat
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I won't lie, I would want him in if he can smack people around with ducks.
Well, I can certainly see the 3DS limiting the roster one way or another. I think it's been talked about in this thread as well. =/
Lord_Byron28
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They could always add a female pokemon trainer who has starters from different generations(gen 2, 3, & 5 since lucario could be a gen 4 rep and mewtwo/new form being a gen 6 rep). For example, chicorita, Dewott, and Blaziken or whatever there are a lot of different possibilities. Another possibility is Eevee and somehow incorporate its evolutions into it which would make it a gen 1, 2, 4 & 6 representative. I'm not sure how it could really work but if so it could be an incredibly unique character.
However, adding mewtwo back in and a female pokemon trainer might be too much pokemon representation unless the roster grows proportionally.
sorijealut
Member
By the way, I love the redo of pikachu and bowser.
Pikachu looks 100x cuter and bowser fixed his back problem.
Pikachu looks 100x cuter and bowser fixed his back problem.
Why are you putting Marth in quotes? Was he in a recent FE game and something happened to him?
Hot Coldman
Banned
There was a character going by the name of Marth in Fire Emblem Awakening. Spoilers:
it's a girl
Nothing? We're talking about all things Smash Bros.
Fire Emblem Awakening spoilers.
Marth with a mask isn't actually Marth, but was actually another female character.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Lucina and Ridley are the two newcomers I'd most like to see. At least the ones with remotely realistic chances.
Hopefully Sakurai saw Brawl's hacked-in Ridley to give him some inspiration.
Hopefully Sakurai saw Brawl's hacked-in Ridley to give him some inspiration.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, Wolf is more unique and I would like them to revamped his moveset. He used rocket launcher in Star Fox Assault for pete's sake.
I used to main Falco in Melee and Brawl so I hope that it really show how much I would value unique characters and welcoming new characters to replace Falco.
It's just that this thread moves so fast that I assumed something happened.
But they've said the 3DS version would have the same amount of the console version in the dev video...
NeonZ
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In Fire Emblem Awakening, a new character calling itself "Marth" and wearing a mask appears, and it's one of the game's main characters.
Thinking about it though, the whole "Marth" thing is rather silly. There's no way that character would be included as "Masked Marth", rather than their later appearance.
Red Rudolph
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The rosters will have the same characters, as said in a Kotaku interview yesterday. But the 3DS limits the characters in some other way, or at least that what we're all guessing.
That's not what I meant. I meant the 3DS game can potentially limit the Wii U roster since they will have the same characters. That could be his excuse this time for characters not making the cut this time. I don't think it should be an issue but he could say it was the reason for x and y not making it in the game.
That's how it's limiting the roster. The 3DS can't have that many characters.
Kissenkopf
Banned
woah...this thread is huge!!! 100 pages +...smash bros is the winner of e3! 
did anybody else thinks that pikachu never looked as cuteas in the new ssb trailer?
did anybody else thinks that pikachu never looked as cuteas in the new ssb trailer?
Red Arremer
Member
Since it's an item, I imagine it's kinda like Peach's turnips.
Neoriceisgood
Member
I also used to main Falco in Melee and Brawl, and I feel the same way as you.
Though, it's also the fact that I have zero interest in using him a third time, so his inclusion does not matter to me.
I want more unique fighters.
Stone Ocean
Member
They also said they were having problems making some characters work on the 3DS, which implies the Wii U version / the roster will have to suffer so the 3DS version can be equal.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I think the biggest technical hurdle for the 3DS is screen size.
A character like Ice Climbers or Olimar can clutter the screen quickly and hurt what little screen space they have.
A character like Ice Climbers or Olimar can clutter the screen quickly and hurt what little screen space they have.
Neoriceisgood
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Yeah I'm actually pretty sure clutter is the problem, especially with how much Sakurai seems to "complain" about the 3DS screen size being tiny.
They may have DLC for Smash but I like the idea more of not going in planing on having DLC
Bowser looks so much better it's not even funny
The fact that they've gone and made a character that I thought was pretty much dead competitively look good again gives me a lot of hope for this game.
I almost miss his "I'm from a godzilla movie or something" look and his tank dash though, almost.