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[Neiteio]

Oh man, I hope they reuse this in later trailers:

I'm hoping to see this at the end of the next Nintendo Direct, followed by a trailer where Hades tears the screen apart and crashes the party.

 

[789shadow]

Anyone else really, really, REALLY want Phoenix Wright?

 

[DaBoss]

these gifs are coming from gameplay videos right? I dont think i've seen them, links?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ

Anyone else really, really, REALLY want Phoenix Wright?

I wouldn't mind seeing him in, but there is no way he is in.

 

[Neiteio]

these gifs are coming from gameplay videos right? I dont think i've seen them, links?

It's gameplay. Required viewing, Salsa: Eight minutes with Sakurai

 

[IntelliHeath]

IGN reported it here. Basically they're having issues with the 3DS version in some areas like working in characters like the Ice Climbers (nice we had that not-so-subtle hint they're back considering how many people thought they were axed during Brawl's development) which use more than one character for one playable slot, so they might not wind up releasing at the same time since Nintendo wants them to have roster parity.

I'll gladly take that scenario over having characters cut from the Wii U version since they don't 'work' on the 3DS version.

Are you sure that it's Ice Climbers? It could be Diddy and Dixie Kong.

 

[Salsa]

Anyone else really, really, REALLY want Phoenix Wright?

well yes, but for some reason the marvel thing makes me doubt it since it was so recent. Megaman has been there since the beggining so I think it's different..

i'll settle for Layton


edit: oh i've totally seen that video. For some reason couldnt place those gifs

 

[789shadow]

I don't exactly see what's stopping Wright from being in.

 

[Roo]

Considering that Smash is technically a "new" IP for a handheld,
one would think that it would sell the worst but thinking a little bit more,
I'm sure it'll totally eclipse the Wii U version based on the userbase alone.

 

[Neiteio]

Are you sure that it's Ice Climbers? It could be Diddy and Dixie Kong.

Oh man, Diddy & Dixie would be amazing. A great excuse to roll out DKC2 music in addition to all of the Tropical Freeze stuff, as well.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Are you sure that it's Ice Climbers? It could be Diddy and Dixie Kong.

That'd be like, the 3rd character who's in the game I took out of my original roster prediction submission for your contest after Pac-Man (assuming that leak's legit) and an AC rep.

Tropical Freeze sort of makes that a viable idea again though. I'd still prefer K. Rool, though I GUESS making Diddy paired with Dixie along with bringing in K. Rool would give me all three of the main Kongs and their most consistent villain all in Smash.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I'm hoping to see this at the end of the next Nintendo Direct, followed by a trailer where Hades tears the screen apart and crashes the party.

Screw MGSV, that would be my trailer of the year.

Anyone else really, really, REALLY want Phoenix Wright?

PW was already in UMvC3 recently, so I don't think his chances are very high. I'll bet you that Megaman was held back from UMvC3 specifically so that he could be exclusively in Smash.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

I don't think it's Ice Climbers that's the problem. It seems Rich was using Ice Climbers as an example of multiple characters for one character.

It's hard to tell whether it's something Sakurai said or just something they're inferring when we can't see the interview they had with him.

Personally if it's not something Sakurai said, I reckon it'd probably be Olimar and Pikmin causing the problem. That's like, 7 different characters for one playable slot you can have one screen at one time.

 

[Speedwagon]

I've added more to my Wii Fit Trainer Moveset GIFs gallery.

Check it out.
http://minus.com/m4RYdvoTqyz5X

 

[Exterminieren]

I don't exactly see what's stopping Wright from being in.

The fact that he's not popular enough for his games to get localised at retail any more, never mind to be a big guest star in Smash?

Layton is immeasurably more likely to make the cut than Wright.

 

[Forever]

I'm wondering if Monster Hunter might get a rep. It seems obvious. The series is a legit phenomenon and it's officially in bed with Nintendo right now. The question then becomes about the weapon and armor choices.

 

[Fandangox]

Phoenix Wright is not getting on the basis that I doubt Sakurai would give a second entry to a Third Party Company.

 

[ffdgh]

If melee can handle 8 iceclimers at once, hopefully the 3ds version can too

 

[sixteen-bit]

Here's another.

Looks great.

Probably a pipe dream this ends up running at 60, but hope springs eternal.

 

[Forever]

Phoenix Wright is not getting on the basis that I doubt Sakurai would give a second entry to a Third Party Company.

MonHun tho.

Think about it. It's as big as any other franchise in Japan.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Anyone else really, really, REALLY want Phoenix Wright?

I do but I don't think he have any chance after Mega Man got in.

I'm hoping to see this at the end of the next Nintendo Direct, followed by a trailer where Hades tears the screen apart and crashes the party.

YES! Then Medusa would come out of no where and uppercut him right there.

 

[Karsticles]

I don't exactly see what's stopping Wright from being in.

Nothing is stopping it, but it's unlikely.

 

[Dr.Thunder]

I really hope the Wii U version of Smash comes out first if anything. I'm kind of afraid that if the 3ds version releases first than people won't feel the need to get the Wii U version. I really hope that whatever connectivity the games has it makes it much better to have both.

 

[Fandangox]

MonHun tho.

Think about it. It's as big as any other franchise in Japan.

Didn't the MonHon developers specifically asked for no MonHun content in MarvelVsCapcom?
I have heard that around, but I have seen no source.

 

[Salsa]

Im still calling it with Layton and probably a Monster Hunter.

Maybe a Felyne or something instead of a hunter tho.

 

[NeonZ]

Could that screenshot be an implication that we'll be able to walk into that tent at some point?

I think it's just Kirby doing a taunt while Samus turns around. I remember lots of pictures people could take in Brawl with the in game screenshots that gave the illusion that the characters weren't walking in the right plane. That's the same thing. It's not really special.

 

[Tom Hatherford]

SO do the Wii U and 3DS games connect at all?

 

[Speedwagon]

I think it's just Kirby doing a taunt while Samus turns around. I remember lots of pictures people could take in Brawl with the in game screenshots that gave the illusion that the characters weren't walking in the right plane. That's the same thing. It's not really special.

Yeah you're right. I see the resemblance now. I was kind of hoping for new taunts, but oh well.

SO do the Wii U and 3DS games connect at all?

Yes, for some kind of customization.

"The Wii U and 3DS versions of the new Super Smash Bros. will not feature cross-platform play, director of Sora Ltd. Masahiro Sakurai tells Joystiq. Since each version of the game has completely different stages, cross-platform play wouldn't work, he told us through an interpreter. Each version will interact with one another, however, as announced back in 2011. Specifically, players will be able to take characters they've customized and transfer them to the Wii U version."

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/13/wii-u-and-3ds-smash-bros-will-not-have-cross-platform-play-wil/

 

[DaBoss]

It's hard to tell whether it's something Sakurai said or just something they're inferring when we can't see the interview they had with him.

Personally if it's not something Sakurai said, I reckon it'd probably be Olimar and Pikmin causing the problem. That's like, 7 different characters for one playable slot you can have one screen at one time.

I feel it is Captain Olimar too, but I'm thinking the 3DS screen is going to be smaller than it will be ideal to see the Pikmin.

I'm wondering if Monster Hunter might get a rep. It seems obvious. The series is a legit phenomenon and it's officially in bed with Nintendo right now. The question then becomes about the weapon and armor choices.

I really doubt it.

 

[NeonZ]

I'm wondering if Monster Hunter might get a rep. It seems obvious. The series is a legit phenomenon and it's officially in bed with Nintendo right now. The question then becomes about the weapon and armor choices.

Monster Hunter's staff didn't want Monster Hunter content in MvC3. I don't think they'd have a different opinion about Smash.

 

[Chet Rippo]

If melee can handle 8 iceclimers at once, hopefully the 3ds version can too

But what about the Pikmin?

 

[Fandangox]

SO do the Wii U and 3DS games connect at all?

There's no Crossplay, but Sakurai said you could send some "customized" characters to the Wii U version from the 3DS Version.

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

Only thing that would hold him back, methinks, is if Konami doesn't agree to him appearing in Smash again. After how well-received he was in Brawl, I doubt Sakurai or Nintendo would have a problem with him returning.

Nintendo should have a problem with him returning. Nintendo shouldn't be in the business of selling other consoles.

"Hey, do you like playing as that Snake guy in Smash?"

"Yes!"

"Well, you need to buy an Xbox One or PS4 to play his latest adventures."

"I can't play the latest Snake game on Wii U?"

"No way! Snake isn't gamepad compatible."

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Monster Hunter sounds too generic. I'd be cool with Phoenix Wright, or Layton for that matter.

 

[ffdgh]

But what about the Pikmin?

...cut them down to 4?

 

[BlueMagic]

The 3DS version not running at 60 FPS has me worrying a lot. I guess it's a long shot but I hope it's doable.

 

[Neiteio]

I've added more to my Wii Fit Trainer Moveset GIFs gallery.

Check it out.
http://minus.com/m4RYdvoTqyz5X

The new "Abandon thread" GIF?

 

[Salsa]

Monster Hunter sounds too generic.

wut

Monster Hunter is filled with charm and stuff that would blend in perfectly on Smash Bros

 

[DaBoss]

The new "Abandon thread" GIF?

:lol

wut

Monster Hunter is filled with charm and stuff that would blend in perfectly on Smash Bros

They will most likely use a Rathalos armored hunter if they were going to bring in a Monster Hunter rep though.

 

[J-Tier]

Monster Hunter belongs in MVC4.

 

[Neiteio]

Nintendo should have a problem with him returning. Nintendo shouldn't be in the business of selling other consoles.

"Hey, do you like playing as that Snake guy in Smash?"

"Yes!"

"Well, you need to buy an Xbox One or PS4 to play his latest adventures."

"I can't play the latest Snake game on Wii U?"

"No way! Snake isn't gamepad compatible."

You're looking at it the wrong way: Snake's inclusion in Smash attracts fans from -other- consoles. The hardcore MGS fanatics who have to have everything with Snake in it will consider the game (and system) more seriously if there's heavy MGS fan service involved.

Also, Brawl came out the same year MGS4 came out on PS3, and yet it didn't stop Snake from being in Brawl. I mean, at least this time around there's an MGS game on a current Nintendo system (MGS3D on 3DS).

 

[NeonZ]

Here's the source for the Monster Hunter team not wanting an appearance in MvC3:

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/1...-didnt-want-the-hunter-in-marvel-vs-capcom-3/

Certainly they were on the list and we actually made a proposal to the Monster Hunter team and producer. The answer I believe came back was no. You don’t just have to have the idea to have the character. You also have to get permission from the producer of that series to include the character and however they are implemented. They thought it wasn’t a good fit for the game and maybe they’re right. The hunter is sort of a malleable personality, rather than a super strong character in Monster Hunter since he’s so customizable.

From there where do you go? Like a Felyne? A Poogie? I don’t know. A Lagiacrus or something like that. I don’t know what you’re going to put in there from Monster Hunter. So, anyway it didn’t work out. They’re just too cool for us.

 

[Village]

Monster Hunter belongs in MVC4.

I agree.

However I heard those guys, and the sengoku bassarra guys actually said that they do not want their stuff in marvel

 

[Salsa]

They will most likely use a Rathalos armored hunter if they were going to bring in a Monster Hunter rep though.

well sure but I mean, cooking meat attack, running animation, etc. He'd look great and appropriately "playful"

 

[Berordn]

You're looking at it the wrong way: Snake's inclusion in Smash attracts fans from -other- consoles. The hardcore MGS fanatics who have to have everything with Snake in it will consider the game (and system) more seriously if there's heavy MGS fan service involved.

Also, Brawl came out the same year MGS4 came out on PS3, and yet it didn't stop Snake from being in Brawl. I mean, at least this time around there's an MGS game on a current Nintendo system (MGS3D on 3DS).

The MGS rep in Brawl directly referenced MGS4, also. If it wasn't an issue then I can't see why it should be now.

 

[ffdgh]

The new "Abandon thread" GIF?

It weird how the balance board almost loops perfectly.

 

[Forever]

Monster Hunter's staff didn't want Monster Hunter content in MvC3. I don't think they'd have a different opinion about Smash.

I do. Those are two completely different games. Most devs consider it an honor to have their characters included in Smash. Kojima lobbied Sakurai for it personally.

 

[Zoramon089]

You're looking at it the wrong way: Snake's inclusion in Smash attracts fans from -other- consoles. The hardcore MGS fanatics who have to have everything with Snake in it will consider the game (and system) more seriously if there's heavy MGS fan service involved.

Also, Brawl came out the same year MGS4 came out on PS3, and yet it didn't stop Snake from being in Brawl. I mean, at least this time around there's an MGS game on a current Nintendo system (MGS3D on 3DS).

I don't see that. I see the reverse. Fans of Smash are more likely to buy the games/series the characters are from (hence the huge reception to the newest Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem games) than the other way around.

Basically I can imagine someone liking Snake in Smash and buying an MGS game (assuming it was on the Wii/WiiU) more than I can the reverse

 

[Salsa]

The other thing is that at this point i'd imagine devs want their characters in Smash Bros as a way to better enter the western audience as well.

I mean look at the Marth and Roy situation.

Monster Hunter could use the SHIT out of that.

 

[DaBoss]

well sure but I mean, cooking meat attack, running animation, etc. He'd look great and appropriately "playful"

That is true, and his taunts would be hilarious.

I do. Those are two completely different games. Most devs consider it an honor to have their characters included in Smash. Kojima lobbied Sakurai for it personally.

But Kojima did that because his kid and him liked to play Smash, but he said there was no character from a game Kojima made.

The other thing is that at this point i'd imagine devs want their characters in Smash Bros as a way to better enter the western audience as well.

I mean look at the Marth and Roy situation.

Monster Hunter could use the SHIT out of that.

I'm all for this.

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

You're looking at it the wrong way: Snake's inclusion in Smash attracts fans from -other- consoles. The hardcore MGS fanatics who have to have everything with Snake in it will consider the game (and system) more seriously if there's heavy MGS fan service involved.

Also, Brawl came out the same year MGS4 came out on PS3, and yet it didn't stop Snake from being in Brawl. I mean, at least this time around there's an MGS game on a current Nintendo system (MGS3D on 3DS).

Snake is only in Brawl because Kojima begged Sakurai. There are other third party characters that could attract non-Nintendo fans besides Snake.