Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

He isn't the only Lord in Awakening; he isn't even the most popular Lord in Awakening. If the Awakening rep isn't replacing Ike, Lucina is a lot more likely than Chrome.

So they're going to choose to not put the face of the goddamn game, but instead this chick who's basically a Marth clone. Alright.
 
Especially when you do it in the air and you and your victim fall to your death.

It kills you too, but it's damn funny.

Useless trivia from Brawl - if both opponents are on their last stock and one of them uses a suicide move, it flags the character who initiated that move as winner or goes to Sudden Death, except for Ganondorf, where the game either flags him as loser or goes to Sudden Death.
 
All the popularity polls, the fact that she is getting an action figure and Chrome isn't.

Show me one popularity poll that shows Lucina being more popular than Chrom.

And that figurine really doesn't mean anything since that would also have to say that Tharja is more popular than Chrom.
 
Useless trivia from Brawl - if both opponents are on their last stock and one of them uses a suicide move, it flags the character who initiated that move as winner or goes to Sudden Death, except for Ganondorf, where the game either flags him as loser or goes to Sudden Death.

Brawl must really hated Ganondorf. Geez.
 
Oh. OH... Holy shit do I feel dumb now.

It's OK. I was a tiny bit confused at first. :p

You know the worst thing of brawl?
No real handmade intro showing the characters, only cut out cutscenes from SEE.
But you know whats worst about it?
The narrator never says at the end SUPER SMASH BROTHERS..... BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL!

That title narration would have been so epic with the intro music :(

I agree. Brawl had the best intro music, yet it was missing the best part of the older game's intros.

I wonder how they'll pull it off for Smash Wii U/3DS. Sounds weird thinking they'll say "Super Smash Brothers... Three Dee Eeeeeeessss!"
 
So they're going to choose to not put the face of the goddamn game, but instead this chick who's basically a Marth clone. Alright.

Lucina appears in more merchandise and official art than Chrome! Both the OST and the artbook have Lucina in the cover; she is the poster-character of the game.

And that figurine really doesn't mean anything since that would also have to say that Tharja is more popular than Chrom.

According to Pixiv, she is.
 
Useless trivia from Brawl - if both opponents are on their last stock and one of them uses a suicide move, it flags the character who initiated that move as winner or goes to Sudden Death, except for Ganondorf, where the game either flags him as loser or goes to Sudden Death.

I thought it was dependent on which player it was? I remember that's how priority for move clashes used to work, at least.
 
The story of FE largely depends on the games, a lot of them are in different universes from others. Basically:

1, 2, 3 and Awakening are in the same universe.
4 and 5 are in the same universe.
6 and 7 are in the same universe.
8 is standalone.
9 and 10 are in the same universe.
11 and 12 are remakes of 1 and 3.

All the universes are different from each other.

Thanks for the info.! At the moment, I am currently just reading a bunch of things to get the feel of characters and what the go through in their game.

Also, do you know anything about Roy in FE: A?
 
Brawl must really hated Ganondorf. Geez.

There's actually a few coding errors in Ganondorf's moveset, as far as I remember. One is in regards to his F-Air - if I remember correctly, he was supposed to be able to cancel it, but they messed something up in the code, so he can't. :lol

I thought it was dependent on which player it was? I remember that's how priority for move clashes used to work, at least.

The player port priority is in regards whether the game ends or goes to Sudden Death.
 
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Chrome is totally the face of the game; yep. He definitely is who people think about when Awakening is mentioned.
 
Thanks for the info.! At the moment, I am currently just reading a bunch of things to get the feel of characters and what the go through in their game.

Also, do you know anything about Roy in FE: A?

As far as I know Roy is just part of an extra DLC chapter for FE: A, where you can recruit him I think. He isn't connected to the story in any way whatsoever.
 
Especially when you do it in the air and you and your victim fall to your death.

It kills you too, but it's damn funny.
It was a great reset button. Losing 80% to 20%? Suicide grapple! Did you just kill your opponent? Suicide grapple!

Only worked when the game was new, but it was fun.
 
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Chrome is totally the face of the game; yep. He definitely is who people think about when Awakening is mentioned.

BUT HE'S IN ALL THE TRAILERS FOR THE GAME, AND HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CHARACTERS REVEALED.

Yep Lucina is definitely the face of the game. She's important to that particular game's story, but he is as well. He's the fucking face of the goddamn game. She isn't jesus.
 
It was a great reset button. Losing 80% to 20%? Suicide grapple! Did you just kill your opponent? Suicide grapple!

Only worked when the game was new, but it was fun.

It's still work for me but some of them are casual players. It's pretty satisfying to win the game with choke slam.
 
Show me one popularity poll that shows Lucina being more popular than Chrom.

And that figurine really doesn't mean anything since that would also have to say that Tharja is more popular than Chrom.

There was one in the FE awakening thread, but she was definitely higher than chrom in that poll. Maybe someone will come in post it but I know that chrom in the U.S isn't a very well liked character. Since they are more likely to take from japan for a FE characters popularity chrom doesn't win there either.
 
He isn't the only Lord in Awakening; he isn't even the most popular Lord in Awakening. If the Awakening rep isn't replacing Ike, Lucina is a lot more likely than Chrome.

Lucina was boring, and came too late in the game to be as effective as Chrom so I never used her or cared about her much. If we're going to get a FE female, it may as well be Tharja, since people are so infatuated with her, and she'd at least be a FE character that doesn't have a sword, like ALL of them have had up until now. I'm down with a little Black Magic in Smash Bros. if they can find a way to keep it lighthearted.
 
As far as I know Roy is just part of an extra DLC chapter for FE: A, where you can recruit him I think. He isn't connected to the story in any way whatsoever.

Oh, really? Dammit. I was hoping he'd have some type story. I really enjoy Roy, he's awesome. Not only that but he looks amazing in FE: A! I would love to see him in SSB4 with that outfit.

Also, I think i'm on the little train of Sami from Advance Wars taking Snakes moveset.
 
As someone who loves Awakening, and hopes Lucina is in the game in some form, Chrom is easily the face of Awakening and more important than her in the story.
 
BUT HE'S IN ALL THE TRAILERS FOR THE GAME, AND HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CHARACTERS REVEALED.

Yep Lucina is definitely the face of the game. She's important to that particular game's story, but he is as well. He's the fucking face of the goddamn game. She isn't jesus.

But she is the one appearing in all the post-release merchandise; she is the poster girl for popularity reasons. They are giving Lucina all the extra official art because people demand it, they don't demand more Chrome.

As someone who loves Awakening, and hopes Lucina is in the game in some form, Chrom is easily the face of Awakening and more important than her in the story.

Jin is the most important character in Tekken yet the only ones that get to appear in crossovers are Lili and Heihachi.
 
Lucina's far and away biggest hurdle is that she basically looks exactly like Marth, and Marth isn't going anywhere (and if you actually think he is, you're completely delusional).
 
But she is the one appearing in all the post-release merchandise; she is the poster girl for popularity reasons. They are giving Lucina all the extra official art because people demand it, they don't demand more Chrome.

In spite of popularity, Mewtwo was removed from Brawl, Jigglypuff has been in every game, and newcomer Wii Fit Trainer is appearing in the upcoming one.

What's popular doesn't seem to have any sway on what actually gets into the games.
 
Oh, really? Dammit. I was hoping he'd have some type story. I really enjoy Roy, he's awesome. Not only that but he looks amazing in FE: A! I would love to see him in SSB4 with that outfit.

Also, I think i'm on the little train of Sami from Advance Wars taking Snakes moveset.
If you want to play Roy's story play FE6 and then play 7 to get some more winks and nods to it.

As someone who loves Awakening, and hopes Lucina is in the game in some form, Chrom is easily the face of Awakening and more important than her in the story.

Thank you.
But she is the one appearing in all the post-release merchandise; she is the poster girl for popularity reasons. They are giving Lucina all the extra official art because people demand it, they don't demand more Chrome.

Not the face of the fucking game. Get over it. She might become an assist trophy due to popularity, but I seriously doubt she'll steal a spot from somebody unless they do that tag team thing mentioned before.

Also, Ridley was one of the most requested characters to be in Brawl according to the polls. Didn't mean shit to Sakurai, he got relegated to boss status because. LOLTOOBIG.
 
I haven't played Awakening yet, so I really don't mind who we get in SSB4 as long as a new FE rep shows up.

We all know who the superior Fire Emblem characters are anyway ;-)

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Lucina appears in more merchandise and covers than Chrome! Both the OST and the artbook have Lucina in the cover!

That's also false.

Chrom appears on the Club Nintendo soundtrack CD. And that pre-order handkerchief. And that jigsaw puzzle. And those collectible gum things. And on both drama CDs.

Where is Lucina on those?

According to Pixiv, she is.

Yes, Pixiv is the ultimate way to gauge how popular characters are within global demographics.

As far as I know Roy is just part of an extra DLC chapter for FE: A, where you can recruit him I think. He isn't connected to the story in any way whatsoever.

SpotPass, too.

There was one in the FE awakening thread, but she was definitely higher than chrom in that poll. Maybe someone will come in post it but I know that chrom in the U.S isn't a very well liked character. Since they are more likely to take from japan for a FE characters popularity chrom doesn't win there either.

Oh, there is that. Granted, they don't have Lucina there as herself.

No polls show Lucina herself being more popular than Chrom.
 
Lucina's far and away biggest hurdle is that she basically looks exactly like Marth, and Marth isn't going anywhere (and if you actually think he is, you're completely delusional).

They can replace Marth with Lucina if they want as long as the moveset is the same. I wouldn't mind :D
 
In spite of popularity, Mewtwo was removed from Brawl, Jigglypuff has been in every game, and newcomer Wii Fit Trainer is appearing in the upcoming one.

What's popular doesn't seem to have any sway on what actually gets into the games.

True enough, but I don't think "being relevant to the original game story" is worth much; Sakurai seems to have his own personal criteria for choosing characters. As far as we know, they may not add any FE characters at all.
 
Is anyone else peeved that their approach to stage design has only seemed to get worse since Brawl? the AC stage is still just another floating platform in the sky that lets the locations of the source material go to waste, even the Mega Man stage seems to be this as well. Will we never see the sort of design from SSB and Melee where purely the structure of it is what makes it interesting? Like Great Fox, Onett, Fourside, Sky Temple... now even SKYLOFT is a floating platform stage! I know it's like Isle Delfino where it drops you off on random actual locations every for seconds, but to me that just reeks of lazy indecisiveness, and robs the source material of its real potential. Was where to hold a fight on Skyloft NOT a huge no-brainer??

Why not an AC stage that is just on the cliff by the beach like it is in New Leaf? The fighting would mainly take place on top, with the short beach part below acting as the equivalent to the back end of the Great Fox, a dangerous spot where fights usually end, then put a waterfall on the opposite side that leads to quicker deaths.
 
He isn't the only Lord in Awakening; he isn't even the most popular Lord in Awakening. If the Awakening rep isn't replacing Ike, Lucina is a lot more likely than Chrome.

Chrom is the only real lord in Awakening though. He's the auto-deployed unit in story maps that results in a game over if he loses.

Lucina is as much of a lord in Awakening as... well... bonus unit Marth (Well, they changed his class name in the localized version, but it was originally "Star Lord"). They have special classes and can wield unique weapons, but otherwise are treated like standard units by the game. Lucina losing doesn't result in a Game Over and she isn't autodeployed in every story map after joining.

Also, do you know anything about Roy in FE: A?

Roy is just a standard bonus unit and paid DLC character.

Storywise, like all past game characters in Awakening, Roy is actually a spirit summoned from a special card. In the DLC chapter, he's summoned to fight against Chrom's group, but notices that there's something wrong in the battle. After he's defeated, he offers to join Chrom and the others. He has a lord class skill, but otherwise is basically just a generic Hero/Mercenary unit in Awakening.
 
Problem with Simon Belmont is which of his rendition to use. Given Sakurai's usual way of going to the roots of franchises and seen what he did with Megaman, one would say Nes' Castlevania sprite should be the base to work on. But it's quite a difficult task as Simon sprite hasn't never been much characterized there, and in artworks of that time he even looks quite different.
He could go with red haired Simon of latest Kojima's artworks and I'd be fine with that as I find it very appealing. Sakurai went with modern Snake too, so it's definitely a possibilty, but differently than Snake red haired Simon never appeared in a game of much significance, let alone on a Nintendo console.
probably
from the 3DS game.
 
Chrom appears on the Club Nintendo soundtrack CD. And that pre-order handkerchief. And that jigsaw puzzle. And those collectible gum things. And on both drama CDs .

Those don't feature new art, tho. I was just talking about stuff featuring new drawings by Kozaki.
 
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Is anyone else peeved that their approach to stage design has only seemed to get worse since Brawl? the AC stage is still just another floating platform in the sky that lets the locations of the source material go to waste, even the Mega Man stage seems to be this as well. Will we never see the sort of design from SSB and Melee where purely the structure of it is what makes it interesting? Like Great Fox, Onett, Fourside, Sky Temple... now even SKYLOFT is a floating platform stage! I know it's like Isle Delfino where it drops you off on random actual locations every for seconds, but to me that just reeks of lazy indecisiveness, and robs the source material of its real potential. Was where to hold a fight on Skyloft NOT a huge no-brainer??

Why not an AC stage that is just on the cliff by the beach like it is in New Leaf? The fighting would mainly take place on top, with the short beach part below acting as the equivalent to the back end of the Great Fox, a dangerous spot where fights usually end, then put a waterfall on the opposite side that leads to quicker deaths.

yeah, but whaddayagonnado
 
They can replace Marth with Lucina if they want as long as the moveset is the same. I wouldn't mind :D

You'd also be delusional if you think they'd get rid of Marth who is the most important lord of the entire franchise.

Chrom is so shit, I will throw a fit if he makes it in and Lucina doesn't.

Better get your body ready then.

True enough, but I don't think "being relevant to the original game story" is also worth much; Sakurai seems to have his own personal criteria for choosing characters. As far as we know, they may not add any FE characters at all.

Every character added to the roster follows some basic requirements. First is protagonists, then villains or rivals, and then secondary characters.

The protagonist of Awakening is Chrom. Get over it.

Also, as a series that has been on Nintendo consoles and portables since the goddamn NES, which is older than stuff like Starfox, Pokemon, and others. FE deserves at least 3 reps this time around, imo.
 
Useless trivia from Brawl - if both opponents are on their last stock and one of them uses a suicide move, it flags the character who initiated that move as winner or goes to Sudden Death, except for Ganondorf, where the game either flags him as loser or goes to Sudden Death.

When you approach the lower blast zone while using Bowser's Forward B, you can perform a mid-air jump right at the moment the other individual is KO'd. This can be followed up his Up B on certain stages (Castle Siege during the stage transition, Norfair when the lava is at it's lowest point) to survive the "Bowsercide."

You think we might get characters that can heal themselves (not including Mr. G&W's Judgment or Diddy's nuts)?
 
Every character added to the roster follows some basic requirements. First is protagonists, then villains or rivals, and then secondary characters.

Pikachu sure is Pokémon's protagonist.

The protagonist of Awakening is Chrom. Get over it.

No, Awakening is Robin's story. The entire plot is about him/her; even in the climax Chrome is just support.
 
Is not having both versions with the same roster the WORST mistake ever? its like what sony does with the vita in some extent... release the game on the ps3 and the vita. I know other things are going to be different but... why not making the two versions as different as posible so people have to buy both?
 
I don't see how it matters if the art's new or not, but alright. Lucina is ultimately not more popular than Chrom.

Did someone say POLLS?!

https://www.facebook.com/Nintendo3DS?sk=app_162848913870953&destination_page_id=149152295156770

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/kakusei_bk/kekka/index.html

They probably don't mean anything in regards to Smash, but I thought I'd just put the popularity argument to rest.

No one ever listens to the polls :(
 
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