Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

The top one looks like a corgie

Next how is it dead eyes, they show emotion in battle. Lastly The melee has a big head too. You may not like new fox, but do not lie.

Don't know why they aren't using SFA Fox to begin with:

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Also really hoping they will add shaders to the fur like in the new DKC.
 
Alright, liking the brawl/melee design is one thing but this is just not true.

Between Melee and Brawl, he doesn't look all that much different.

People just like to overblow from what I've seen.

In Brawl's somewhat grounded artstyle, Melee Fox would've looked like what we ended up with, except with less detail. Sakurai says it's based of his Command look, but it doesn't even look that way to me lol. It's just Melee fox, in Brawl's artstyle with added detail, different colors and all.

In Smash 4, it looks like a combination of the two. Less gritty, and super detailed. And more cartoony, still looks more like Brawl Fox though.

EDIT: It really is a shame we are getting no ALTS. Come on Nintendo :-(

Divekicks in Smash suck anyways.

You take that back.
 
Waluigi is probably the best rep for the spin off mario games considering he was created to be Wario's partner in Mario Tennis right?
You know who's an even better rep for the spinoff Mario games? Mario. It's not like Waluigi's the "star" of Mario Tennis or Mario Kart, so there's no reason he needs to be included.
 
Alright Geno haters, can we compromise and vote Mallow into the game?

Jesus no, Mallow is awful.

I agree with this completely. Sooooo so tired of Geno getting brought up.

I thought we were best friends Corvo :C.

-Loves Waluigi
-Hates Bayonetta

Oh no, I love both. I'm actually playing through Bayonetta for the first time and I think it's absolutely sublime. Just wouldn't want her in Smash because to me she wouldn't make for a good fit.

You know who's an even better rep for the spinoff Mario games? Mario. It's not like Waluigi's the "star" of Mario Tennis or Mario Kart, so there's no reason he needs to be included.

You know what Mario reps? His own platforming games. That's why he doesn't have moves related to his spin offs. Especially when somebody else could be that representative, whereas nobody can rep the main Mario games aside from Mario.
 
Divekicks in Smash suck anyways.
I was just thinking about this. Why is that the case? I think it's the additional mobility available in Smash Bros. In Street Fighter, dive kicks are such an asset because dashes are slow and there isn't much room to move around. In Marvel, dive kicks are good, but not as good as they are in Street Fighter due to more mobility. There's far more mobility in Marvel than in Street Fighter, but Marvel still imposes strict limitations on movement for a lot of characters. Then in Smash Bros, dive kicks barely matter because there's so much room to move around in, and everyone can move fast via rolling.

Oh no, I love both. I'm actually playing through Bayonetta for the first time and I think it's absolutely sublime. Just wouldn't want her in Smash because to me she wouldn't make for a good fit.
She would be a great fit. And a hell of a lot better than Snake was.
 
You know what Mario reps? His own platforming games. That's why he doesn't have moves related to his spin offs. Especially when somebody else could be that representative, whereas nobody can rep the main Mario games aside from Mario.
Peach already has a golf club and tennis racket as smash attacks, and that's all the representation the sports games really need. Waluigi isn't an important Nintendo character at all. Even among Mario universe characters, Toad, Bowser Jr., and Paper Mario are far more integral.

If there's going to be a sports-based character, the Mii is 99% more likely than Waluigi.
 
So, who would be the worst inclusion to SSB4? Who would you guys say counts into that.

characater-wise:
Tingle
Waluigi

Could never get into SmashBros, but I'll give this one a shot.

Cool. It's never too late to try the series out.

Oh no, I love both. I'm actually playing through Bayonetta for the first time and I think it's absolutely sublime. Just wouldn't want her in Smash because to me she wouldn't make for a good fit.

Good stuff. The game is amazing and the best Action game I've played, not to say I play a lot of them but I'm glad I gave bayo a try. And Idk man, I think her personality would definitely fit well with the cast. Even with all the chaos going on around her, she still finds a way to be charming through it all.
 
Why does Donkey Kong have shaggier fur than a Fox?

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Doesn't make any sense. They should at least be the same.

this is a real issue
 
Y'know what kind of discussion sucks? Discussions over what characters shouldn't be included. Seems we're always at each other's throats over it, and for what? Assertions of facts that a given character would add nothing to the game? Yeah, and these same people would've asserted that there'd be nothing to gain from looking at the Wii <Noun> series, and yet here we have the Wii Fit Trainer. These same people would assert that Sakurai said the PC in Animal Crossing wouldn't fit the series's style, and here we have the Villager.

Maybe we should focus more on what we think should be in, instead of trying to parade around what should not? Because it's a totally futile effort; even the assertions that would be grounded in Word of Based Sakurai are meaningless when Sakurai's contradicted his own word.
 
it was funny to see them use up a slot just for metal mario.
I don't think Metal Mario used anyone's "slot" - it doesn't work like this. Metal Mario is in because he's literally a texture swap for Mario, he doesn't even get his own kart.

Super Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game, its a party game.
Guitar Hero isn't a rhythm game, it's a party game.

What the heck is a party game in the first place? Smash Bros. plays nothing like Mario Party or Wii Party.
 
I don't think Metal Mario used anyone's "slot" - it doesn't work like this. Metal Mario is in because he's literally a texture swap for Mario, he doesn't even get his own kart.

Well b dasher is Mario's kart so by extension it's metal Mario's kart too.
 
Y'know what kind of discussion sucks? Discussions over what characters shouldn't be included. Seems we're always at each other's throats over it, and for what? Assertions of facts that a given character would add nothing to the game? Yeah, and these same people would've asserted that there'd be nothing to gain from looking at the Wii <Noun> series, and yet here we have the Wii Fit Trainer. These same people would assert that Sakurai said the PC in Animal Crossing wouldn't fit the series's style, and here we have the Villager.

Maybe we should focus more on what we think should be in, instead of trying to parade around what should not? Because it's a totally futile effort; even the assertions that would be grounded in Word of Based Sakurai are meaningless when Sakurai's contradicted his own word.

I like this post.
 
Proves my point. Waluigi can't really share Mario's kart, can he? :P Metal Mario is a texture swap. He didn't prevent anyone from getting in MK7.

Hmm I know. It's fun to amuse the fact that If waluigi was in instead of MM, dk could have been an heavy weight like he should be while waluigi is a cruiser weight.
 
Who the fuck hates on Waluigi? Idiots.

Quoting myself because ugh

Walugi's popularity and likeability is only due to the fact that the other Mario characters have been used repeatedly and we are familiar with them. His ability to be the more boring character possible in almost any medium is palpable. He is what happens when Nintendo execs get bored and the only possible thing they can imagine is a clone of Wario but with a thick coating of shitty Luigi paint. People like Waluigi in the same vein that people like crummy acoustic ukulele female singer songwriters.

This is the truth and you accept it.
 
Quoting myself because ugh

Personally what made me like Waluigi the most were the brawl in the family comics. Aside from that I just think his character design is hilarious. This lanky man who looks a lot like those classic cartoon villains. The ones that tie up helpless women to the train tracks. Aside from that Waluigi is actually more creative than Wario if you look at it, it's just that Wario has been fleshed out more. Waluigi's name is a multi-layered pun that works infinitely better than Wario's. His fuck you attitude is usually really well represented especially with his suck my dick taunt after he scores a goal in Mario Strikers. And his WAAA is just something I find ridiculously funny.

So no your assessment is actually pretty terrible. Toad even though he has been in so many games just screams generic to me because that's basically how that character is just always used. As generic filler material. Bowser Jr. is alright I enjoyed Sunshine so if he was in the game I'd rather see him along those lines. As for Paper Mario I still don't feel like it's something deserving of it's own character slot but I guess I wouldn't care either way if he actually made it in.

Waluigi is a character that has shown way more personality than somebody like Daisy who has been around longer, and even Peach for that matter. I would love to see Waluigi as a playable character, but the fact that he was an assist trophy in the last Smash was pretty cool. If he can't be playable then just being an assist trophy again would be pretty fun.
 
And to think, this thread started off so well... who would have ever thought it would have turned into pointless back-and-forth bickering about Waluigi

who should never be included in any game ever.
 
Lets talk about items! What items could be included in SSB4.

Also, I remember this (I think official) board, where we could suggest items to be in Brawl. I suggested the lightning bolt from Mario Kart and it actually came out in Brawl. :P
 
I was just thinking about this. Why is that the case? I think it's the additional mobility available in Smash Bros. In Street Fighter, dive kicks are such an asset because dashes are slow and there isn't much room to move around. In Marvel, dive kicks are good, but not as good as they are in Street Fighter due to more mobility. There's far more mobility in Marvel than in Street Fighter, but Marvel still imposes strict limitations on movement for a lot of characters. Then in Smash Bros, dive kicks barely matter because there's so much room to move around in, and everyone can move fast via rolling.


She would be a great fit. And a hell of a lot better than Snake was.

Mostly because Divekicks are unsafe on block even when you L-cancel them or lack of L-cancel in brawl. Other than the recovery, you don't really gain advantage on hit due to knockback, so it's also not a good approach.
 
Despite the fact that I'm anti-Bayonetta in SSB4.

I can imagine that Pit, Palutena and Bayonetta would have a very interesting conversation about angels,etc at Kid Icarus stage if they added "Codec"
 
Mostly because Divekicks are unsafe on block even when you L-cancel them or lack of L-cancel in brawl. Other than the recovery, you don't really gain advantage on hit due to knockback, so it's also not a good approach.
Real Talk: They need to bring back l-cancelling in SSB4.

Also I think Divekicks are ass in SSB since you can accidentally kill yourself with them
pretty easily.
 
Lets talk about items! What items could be included in SSB4.

Also, I remember this (I think official) board, where we could suggest items to be in Brawl. I suggested the lightning bolt from Mario Kart and it actually came out in Brawl. :P
Actually, I tried coming up with five new items for Smash 4 in the prediction contest thread, and really struggled to do so. Most of the obvious ones are already done.

Although it occurs to me that they can replace the Super Mushroom and Poison Mushroom with the Mega Mushroom and Mini Mushroom; not being able to tell between the two in the heat of a fight was always frustrating. (They won't, though, because I figure that confusion was kind of the point.)
 
Lets talk about items! What items could be included in SSB4.

Also, I remember this (I think official) board, where we could suggest items to be in Brawl. I suggested the lightning bolt from Mario Kart and it actually came out in Brawl. :P

Mimicutie/Treasure Chest.

Would be funny to get trolled by a Mimicutie thinking it was actually a treasure chest.
 
lol not talking about ZSS, give one to real Samus and make it godlike. Make it fast, enhanceable, no landing land and she can combo any of her moves into and out of it.

I want Ness to fly and have a constant PK Starstorm around him and the ability to summon an invincible Rainbow Charizard, so I know how you feel.
 
I've always felt this way about the series. When the "Fox only, no items, Final Destination" comes out it always makes me sad. Just have fun with it.
You might be surprised, but if there are stage and item switches programmed in the game, then -maybe- they're intended to be used. If you want. Anyone claiming that Smash Bros. should be played any specific way is being silly.
 
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