Does he even know the motivations of his own characters anymore?
Like seriously. I love the series, but I have no idea what The Boss, Big Boss, or Zero/Cypher were trying to accomplish.
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Does he even know the motivations of his own characters anymore?
Like seriously. I love the series, but I have no idea what The Boss, Big Boss, or Zero/Cypher were trying to accomplish.
You should replay the games and pay attention =\
Stealth_Cobra
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I just imagined the whole conversion with Sutherland's dry line delivery... I'm gonna miss Hayter, especially when it comes to funny codec conversations.
This is helpful. Instead of posting a one-sentence summary, I got snark. :/
Not at all, it was a serious and honest reply.
If you played the games and don't understand the character's motivations, you should give them another go.
Now the stories do have some problems and tons of retcons but character motivations are quite clear.
Seriously, play them again, they're good games.
Edit: Except for Ocelot! If you liked Snake, you wouldn't try to kill him, you jerk!
Graphics Horse
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Not sure. It won't be based on pressure sensitive though as it's cross gen and out of 4+ platforms only the PS3 supports it aside from L2/R2.
Perhaps what I should have said is there is a prone/dive button which is seperate from a crouch/stand toggle button. The tap to stand up/ hold to lie down was never very nice so a change would be welcome.
Oh god I had hayter's voice in my head until i read what you posted, and now I am sad.
:lol
By the time Snake and (once again not dead) Big Boss teamed up to murder the old, vegetable-ized Zero in a graveyard in MGS4, I came to the realization of just how beyond fucked this series is. Irreparably fucked.
I'm going to buy and surely enjoy MGSV, but I'll be alternating between cringing and laughing my ass off throughout.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Oh come on we've barely heard any of Sutherlands lines and the ones has has delivered have been anything but dry.
Kaz...I'm already a demon.
BB sounded legitimately tired and sad there. And of course Hayter will be in the game in some capacity.
Maybe they're not that good live but Garbage is awesome.
I think I'm paranoid! Gran Turismo
Well, Kojima clearly wants MGSV to be somewhat of its own thing. It's obviously not a reboot or something along those lines, but the changes in voice actors, naming-scheme, and gameplay mechanics (open-world) tell me that he wants to differentiate this game from the rest in the series, for better or for worse.
Then again this could all change depending on how he takes the series after this game. Either way I'm curious to see how this turns out, and how it impacts the series as a whole; not just story-wise, but in terms of the direction the series will take.
Then again this could all change depending on how he takes the series after this game. Either way I'm curious to see how this turns out, and how it impacts the series as a whole; not just story-wise, but in terms of the direction the series will take.
this is why i'm treating it as a stand-alone title.
Or not.
Better than Hayter's ultra-forced and completely unnatural one.
I don't care if it's better or not, that's not my point.
Kiefer is just doing his normal Jack Bauer voice. When Big Boss speaks in MGSV I'll be picturing that guy's face in my head. I don't know if that's a good thing.
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PLASTICA-MAN
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not sure if this has been discussed yet but i figured i'd weigh in.
i'm in the camp of people who believe that the guy who "wakes up" from a coma is not big boss. when big boss went into a coma, he didn't have the shrapnel in his skull, but you can clearly see a bump underneath the bandages of the guy running around in the hospital demo right where the shrapnel should be (right side of his forehead). i don't know about all the other crazy conspiracies, but this was enough to make me a believer.
^Big Boss going into a coma w/ no horn.
^some other dude with a horn.
As for David Hayter, all I'll say is that the Big Boss (sans horn) has never spoken in english in any trailer, and when he spoke in japanese, he had the same voice he always had. i know kojima gave his reasons why the japanese voice was kept the same, but i'm gonna go ahead and call chemtrails on that shit.
I am noticed that bump under the bandage too about this "what about him" character. Big Boss was bleeding in the chopper and he was at the same state in the hospital and he wasn't missing his arm. I am 100% sure that we won't play Big Boss in Phantom Pain part, we will only play him in Ground Zeroes just like the short part with Solid Snake in Tanker chapter in MGS2 and the REAL game in plant section with the new WTF character.
This new character whether modified Gray Fox or an early clone of Big Boss or just a random lookalike saved from Omega Camp is 100% NO BIG BOSS (everything leads to think so from the voice change with this Punished horned "pirate" one eyed + one armed) Snake to maintaining the same voice with BIG BOSS in Omega Camp in japanese version). Kojima wanted us to think that Phantom Pain was made by a swedish studio and is not MGS , now he wants us tot think the opposite, that this character is just Big Boss. We are intelligent we won't fall for that
AGAIN
Vincent4756
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for whatever reason I say the letter V instead of 5. I'm with the people who are treating this like a stand alone title, there just seems to be something odd with it(other then the voice changes lol)
This reminds me of kids I overheard in Gamestop saying "Can I get that new GTA Eye Vee?"
ichtyander
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Sure thing! *hands them a syringe*
Vincent4756
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33-Hit-Combo
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No she's based off another real person, few photos a few pages back!
Metalmurphy
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Quiet seems to be inspired from Michelle Rodriguez (Resident Evil, Macheté, Swat...), don't you think ?!
It was modeled after a dutch model, so it looks just like that dutch model.
She's Dutch.
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Tribes of Trusty
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A little something I thought of about Quiet - cut my limbs if someone already thought of that :
What if Quiet that we saw in that scene the trailers is not long after the torture scene ? What if Quiet was a regular - and talking - sniper in MSF/Diamond Dogs, and for some reason that we still don't know of, was tortured and stripped naked - remember that nakedness is integral part of torture - and that would explain why she's basically half-naked with a torn pantyhose. Also, the torture would explain why she doesn't talk anymore (psychological shock, etc).
What I like about it is that it explains nicely the attire in the torture scene and the desert, and why she's mute. Plus it puts a horrific spin on the whole "Sexy sniper" thing just like the BB Corps was like. But I think that won't be that at all in the final game lol
What I like about it is that it explains nicely the attire in the torture scene and the desert, and why she's mute. Plus it puts a horrific spin on the whole "Sexy sniper" thing just like the BB Corps was like. But I think that won't be that at all in the final game lol
PLASTICA-MAN
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That doesn't still explain why she wears a thong though :3
Tribes of Trusty
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Why not ?
I've heard thongs are better for when you want to do sports or intensive training. Personally I don't know, I've never worn one
F0rneus
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It definitely seems to be the most popular theory from what I've seen.
If they are torturing her to make her talk, she obviously can't be a mute already unless they want her to sign something, which she can't with a hood on her head...So...Yeah, probably mute from the torture. I do wonder why they are doing this to her. The popular theory here, is flushing out a mole in Diamond Dogs but I am really not sure. What if they are torturing Quiet and Huey just for the hell of it? Kaz could be completely insane for all we know. Maybe she was always mute and they are just hurting her for the sake of hurting her. Maybe she escapes and becomes a boss fight to get revenge for what happened to her and BB will have to kill her. People seem to think that she is wearing little clothing because of some sort of photosynthesis ability but there are pictures of the model in full military get-up...So yeah, I do believe she was stripped by Ocelot/DD soldiers. Man, maybe worse...
From what i remember, Zero becomes one and one becomes ten.
(Also, "ten" is a "one" and a "zero" cooperating together, but that's just my personal speculation).
The Big Boss graveyard scene of MGS4 is easily the worst moment of the series, and the height of Kojima's idiocy, much as I love the guy.
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I haven't played PW so I don't know if they ever try justify that retcon again, but I am wondering how it's going to be handled in MGSV. The guy was an absolute monster in MGS1 and MGS2, and was already starting to become a monster in MGS3. How is Kojima going to write a character that makes no sense at this point?
ichtyander
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Or maybe Kaz thought she was just very loyal and persistent in not spilling the beans. Whoops! Didn't know you couldn't talk... :3
I'm not very informed in the physical consequences of such a torture, but wouldn't she have some scars or burn marks on her chest if that daytime scene happens soon after the torture? Guess it would heal after a while though.
I'm not very informed in the physical consequences of such a torture, but wouldn't she have some scars or burn marks on her chest if that daytime scene happens soon after the torture? Guess it would heal after a while though.
I'm treating MGS4 as a stand alone title, how about that?
ichtyander
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To be frank, it's better to look at every MGS game as a standalone title. It's just the same MGS game with different themes, kind of like what Ken Levine did with Bioshock Infinite.
By the way, is that a sentionaut in your avatar? <3
PLASTICA-MAN
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Yes, photosynthesis ability just like The End in MGS3 confirmed. Expect long sniping session in an open world setting.
GoncaloCCastro
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I'd rather have all copies of it destroyed and my memory of it wiped, but I supposed that will do too!
keltickennedy
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I forget...is miller missing limbs or mention it in metal gear solid?
No it's not mentioned. You don't even see him in MGS
Razgriz-Specter
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No but he was never really in MGS1.
Didn't mention it in MG2SS.