Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Gotcha. Was hoping I read it wrong. While silly, alternate costumes is really high on my wish list.
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Gotcha. Was hoping I read it wrong. While silly, alternate costumes is really high on my wish list.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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I love the Japanese voice, just for his grunts and screams and stuff. If they replace it (which they probably will) I'd be a little sad.
Same here! I'm tired of just palette swaps when more can be done with the characters. For example, having Samus' alts be things like the Fusion Suit, Phazon Suit, Light Suit, etc shouldn't be too difficult, or giving Mario a Dr. Mario costume for example...
While not necessary, it would be a lot of fun collecting new costumes for everyone!
What are they doing?
Still can't get over how frantic it looks. The action seems as, or even more rapid as in Melee. This game is gonna be great, I don't care about L-cancelling, wavedashing and whatever, but pace is of utmost value to me.
I know, and seeing people say "oh people only like him because he's a Wario clone with shitty Luigi paint" is terrible.
Waluigi hasn't been given nearly enough chances and also deserves his own game on the 3DS (Next Level Games would prove all the haters and "he's boring" people wrong). Giving him a unique moveset and the iconic "Too Bad, Waluigi Time!" taunt will do a lot for him.
JBtheHunter
Banned
Waluigi isn't boring or anything... he could be a fun character, he just doesn't deserve to be in the game. I can think of 10 Mario characters more deserving than he and Geno.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
It definitely looks like a great blend of Brawl and Melee speed wise, which sounds perfect to me.
What makes a character more deserving anyways?
How highly requested he is? How important he is to the story of the Mario games? The amount of games he's been in?
He is a terrible, terrible character, amongst the worst characters not only Nintendo but the entire gaming industry had ever created. More thought went into creating and developing Bald Space Marine #187 than into Waluigi throughout his miserable 15 years of existence.
I would main him the instant I got the game, he is like power glove.
Yep. I have nothing against Waluigi as a character, but he is presently not deserving of being playable. If he ever proves his worth and gets a game of his own (or simply appears in a mainline game), then he should absolutely be considered. As it stands, he's very low on the Mario universe totem pole.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Excellent GIF. I'm definitely hyped by the pace of the game. I hope that they wouldn't change that at last minute.
Listen to this man. He's right.
Yes please.
Oh my gosh do not tease me like this!
But meh, doesn't even have the scarf or shield....
JBtheHunter
Banned
There's a lot of factors in what makes a character deserving. Level of importance in game/game series is the main thing. A main character is always the most deserving. When it comes to secondary characters, the most deserving are the ones who have important roles in popular series, like Luigi, Peach and Bowser. Waluigi isn't the main character of any game and he's not important in any of the games he's in. The only thing he has going for him is that he's a popular choice. Geno is even less deserving.
Every character in Smash Bros., with the exception of Jigglypuff and Falco, is either a major protagonist of a specific game/series, a major rival, or a focal story character. Jigglypuff got in because she was very popular in Japan at a time where there was only one Pokémon generation, and Falco got in because he was a last minute clone. Everyone else can be considered a "Nintendo all-star" (as is the original game's Japanese subtitle) to some degree. Waluigi isn't nearly significant enough.
They should just pull a Capcom and give us the option to mix and match English/Japanese voices this time around.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
This thread moves so fast I completely missed this post:
That's not a coincidence
Also I think Waluigi would work really well as an oddball character every fighting game has. A character with moves that seam useless on first sight but are really useful when completely mastered. Besides having a completely bonkers personality.
That's not a coincidence
Also I think Waluigi would work really well as an oddball character every fighting game has. A character with moves that seam useless on first sight but are really useful when completely mastered. Besides having a completely bonkers personality.
Troubled Bat
Member
What are you posting! It won't load on my phone. >.<
Yeah I don't understand the complaints of that it'd be impossible for Marth to be replaced, because it'd still represent the original Marth and you'd get the "Marth" fans too.
Awakening spoilers:
Also it'd be another female representative.
I'd rather have them alter the mechanic a bit and make it so there's reasons not to L-Cancel (there's a few rare situations in Melee but most of the time you'd want to).
NeonZ
Member
I really think that if Marth stays he'll be dubbed this time. He already has a localized game, so there's no reason to keep the Japanese voice anymore.
Ike could easily have replaced Marth if they felt like going just with "hero of the newest game", but they didn't do that. I see no reason for that atittude to change now, especially when Marth's more relevant to the series in general again than he was when Brawl was released. Awakening certainly will playable character representation in one way or another, I just don't see them kicking out Marth to do it. Ike seems like a much more obvious target.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
It wouldn't represent the original Marth because you would be removing the original Marth. That's not hard to understand.
Red Arremer
Member
No it wouldn't.
Actually that person pretending to be marth and fighting like marth is a way to preserve marth's memory.
Fine fine, I guess that's fair enough since the roster only has so many spots and variety is the spice of life.
I'm still salty about the fact he won't make it in because he's not important....yet
Time to spam Next Level with email to pitch Nintendo with an idea for a Waluigi game....
One more realistic wish is to see Phoenix Wright in as an exclusive assist trophy for the 3DS game. Capcom may neglect their Western customers for the franchise but they let Sakurai use Megaman so it's possible....
JBtheHunter
Banned
There are a lot of undeserving characters who could work, but that doesn't change the fact that they're undeserving. I used to want Soren from Fire Emblem, Koopa Troopa and Blaziken to be in Brawl. They'd all make fun characters, but I recognize that none of them deserved to be in the game.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I'd be OK with replacing Marth with Lucina if she has a nearly identical moveset . That way I don't have to find myself a new main, and I like her more anyway.
. That way I don't have to find myself a new main, and I like her more anyway.This, it's still paying homage to the original.
That being said, I don't see it likely and it'll probably be an alt costume at best.
Troubled Bat
Member
Damn, and i'm missing out on it.
Part of me agrees with this. But part of me also feels that being in Smash may lead to him being more important. Being in smash could flesh out his identity, which includes his personality, his abilities, and could be the factor that'll allow him to star in his own (awesomely terrible xD) game.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I'm sure Jigglypuff having basically the same body build-up as Kirby had as much to do with her inclusion, as well.
Marth is the face of Fire Emblem. He starred in the first Fire Emblem game, the most important Fire Emblem game (FE3), remakes of both of those games, and has already appeared in two Smash Bros. installments. To suggest replacing him with a one-off female cosplayer as sufficient absolutely boggles my mind.
Troubled Bat
Member
Guys, Roy is coming back I can guarantee it! You'll all laugh at me, but in the end.. I will have the last laugh! Mwuhaha!
JBtheHunter
Banned
You're arguing my point for me dude. Deserving has nothing to do with popularity. Waluigi and Geno are poplular... but they're not deserving.PokéKong;64349236 said:
Mr. Game & Watch got in because the Game & Watch games were an important part of Nintendo's history. ROB got in for the same reason. Wii Fit Trainer got in because Wii Fit is one of the best selling games of all-time. Wolf got in because he's the main rival of Star Fox. Captain Falcon gt in because he's the representative of F-Zero. Mega Man and Sonic got in because they're the mascots of their respective companies. Waluigi is NOT important in any kind of way, the only thing he goes on is popularity.
That is the issue, he doesn't have an identity. He is just bad guy luigi. Wario became his own person, daisy even got this tomb boy thing going. Waluigi is just bad luigi, his name is very apt.
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SenorArdilla
Member
I want everyone back. Just not Pichu.
I'm quite aware of Marth's history, thanks, I just think it's a possibility with Awakening's huge popularity but it's not something I'd personally want.
Ideally I'd want 4 FE reps (Ike in RD gear/Chrom/Marth with a Awakening Marth alt, then someone who can bring a new playstyle like Avatar, Lyn, Hector, Sigurd, etc.), but we'll see.
Pichu can come back if its a legit character and not a glorified handicap.
Troubled Bat
Member
Even if its pushing it.. Bowser Jr. and Waluigi for SSB4!
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Naw guys, Daisy for smash!!!
I can get behind Bowser Jr. Back when Brawl was being planned, his only appearance was in Sunshine, but he's since had major roles in the New Super Mario Bros. games (and slightly less major roles in the Galaxy games). He has to be on Sakurai's radar, at least.