Fighting Games Weekly | June 17-23 | Nintendoes what Capcan't
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I'm OK with this...
Karsticles
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Smooth Operator
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PartTimeWarrior
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Capcom vs Capcom 4: Fate of One World (Still No Megaman)
bloodyroarxx
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And yet still no Mega Man
I would be 100% OK with this... especially since financially and logistically it makes more sense for Capcom. No need to fly across the god damn country to double check which finger motions of Dr Strange they should put in the game or not.
Plus more chance for Nero and Gene making into the game.
Also no licensing bullshit to prevent patches and rebalancing. I'd say that's a fair tradeB-b-b-but Magneto ?
Haha this is nice. They gotta have megaman though.
Appearances in other games is all he is going to get for his 25th anniversary
Hell yeah, and PLEASE make ONE universal fighting mechanic for all characters. Not something like that fighting jam shit. Hell, I would be okay with a groove system that applies to ALL characters.
Oh god, I don't want to get started to theory mode about this hypothetical game.
/startsfoamingfromthemouth
Oh god, I don't want to get started to theory mode about this hypothetical game.
/startsfoamingfromthemouth
Smooth Operator
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Yes i agree with that. I wonder which Capcom character could have Magneto movelist ?
Lost Fragment
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Would people actually play a Capcom Allstars game like they do Marvel 3? 'cause I'm kinda under the impression that the only reason people have played Marvel 3 so much is because it has "Marvel" in the title.
It has to be 3v3 assist based combat though.
*Character fan service with a ton of characters to choose from (which a Capcom All Stars game will have provided they choose correctly)
*Flashy and over the top action at a fast speed
*Assist based combat, strategy put into team construction/synergy
All of this can be provided with a Capcom All Star game. It would be like TVC only with a faster engine, more characters, no licensing problems and on systems people actually play fighting games.
Here is why people play Versus games:
*Character fan service with a ton of characters to choose from (which a Capcom All Stars game will have provided they choose correctly)
*Flashy and over the top action at a fast speed
*Assist based combat, strategy put into team construction/synergy
All of this can be provided with a Capcom All Star game. It would be like TVC only with a faster engine, more characters, no licensing problems and on systems people actually play fighting games.
SolarPowered
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Yes! It's all about the insane team building and assist combinations for me.
Capcom's got plenty of great characters they could use.
Samanosuke plz
The ultimate corrupt-a-wish.
QisTopTier
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In a new capcom all stars, og dante and vergil will be replaced with the new ones.
SolarPowered
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You know it is coming. Just let it happen.
Karsticles
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It gets people in, but it's all about the gameplay. I don't know how you can think otherwise, because there are a ton of games with "Marvel" in the title that no one cares about in the long-term. There are even other fighting games with that word in the title. Marvel vs. Capcom is 75% about the gameplay, and 25% about the fan service.
Hell, as a fan service game, MvC3 is pretty shitty. Wolverine and Storm don't even say anything to each other pre-battle, Dormammu has incoherent quotes against Dr. Strange ("You are nothing to me." - "The Dread Dormammu has defeated his greatest foe!" - okay Dormammu), characters like Hsien-ko have their movesets removed, Megaman is not in the game, Thor doesn't throw his hammer, Tony Stark can fly straight, blahblahblah. Several characters play nothing like they should for fans of those characters. The game is a huge disappointment in fan service beyond the actual inclusion of the characters people want to play.
I guarantee you that if you give Magneto's moveset to Jedah in a modified form, everyone will be just as hype about what happens. Fan service only moves the initial set of copies. It's the gameplay that keeps the game afloat. That's why SFxT sank so hard.
BRB updating my Nina moveset to mail off to Capcom.
Thank God for Smash.
MvC3 is a grand accomplishment in so many ways. Only SF4 is more impressive when it comes to any fighting game this generation. I would say MK9 is the next most impressive, and then KoFXIII (both those two revitalized and expanded scene and exposure). SF4 revitalized a genre and MvC3 managed to improve on it's predecessor in pretty much every single way bar TACs.
and xfactor
Already have my Gamecube controller to CC adapter ready to go!
Marth and Lucas (and now Villager) for my mains at least until more of the cast is revealed.
Concept is fine, execution still needs tuning. (please no more XF1 damage boost.)
X-Factor is fine. Fits into updating it for a new era of players and percentages aren't stupid in UMvC3. Better player still wins every single time. I have no sympathy for players who use an in-game resource more idiotically than their opponent and complain about it when they lose. X-Factor is great because it exposes people who panic too. Allows for great flexibility in defensive and offensive use too.
Lost Fragment
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There are a ton of Marvel games that nobody cares about, but only 1 is a legendary game on the competitive scene. Marvel 2.
Maybe an All Stars game would be played as much or more than Marvel 3, but a series having that history with the community is a pretty big deal.
Karsticles
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XF1 damage boost is the counter for front-heavy teams. For example, if I'm running my main team (Firebrand/Dormammu/Shuma-Gorath), and my opponent is running Morrigan/Vergil/Dr. Doom, I will use XF1 100% of the time to kill Morrigan. Why? Because I can unblockable Vergil since he has no air mobility, and then I can tag Dormammu in because Dr. Doom hasn't a chance in the world against him. It's an important strategic element to the game.
Okay, but why is Marvel 2 a legendary competitive game? Do people say "ooooooh, he picked Magneto again!", or "Oooooh, guard break!"? No one even gave a crap about Sentinel until that game came along. The gameplay makes the characters legendary.
I don't disagree that CAS would have to swim upstream a bit, but there's a beautiful lake to float around in at the end of that stream.
shadowstar
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I would love a Capcom All-Stars if only for the greater chance at some Breath of Fire representation.
DryEyeRelief
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If SFxT didn't have Street Fighter in the title, game wouldn't have gotten past day 3. Patch or no patch.
I need to get one of those adapters, and a Wii U. Hopefully there is a price drop for the holiday season this year.
I'm definitely maining Megaman, Link, Ganondorf and Ike(if he comes back)
Karsticles
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I will never understand how one of the angriest men on GAF has the name mr. puppy.
Aaaaand there goes all my desire for a Capcom Allstars.
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Karsticles
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Guilty Gear fans, is this preferable?
http://gematsu.com/2013/06/guilty-gear-xrd-sign-being-considered-for-next-gen
http://gematsu.com/2013/06/guilty-gear-xrd-sign-being-considered-for-next-gen
Parallax Scroll
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X-factor is great the way it is.
Capcom Allstars would be better than nothing, but it wouldn't be as popular as marvel.
Capcom Allstars would be better than nothing, but it wouldn't be as popular as marvel.
Karsticles
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I wouldn't say it's great, but it's not a flaw in the game, either.
I already went over my brilliant alternatives to X-Factor, so I'll leave it at that!
SolarPowered
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Absolutely
Give the game all the GPU, RAM and CPU power it needs. Also, the streaming functionalities are extremely important.
Mr. Jared is angrier than Mr. Puppy. He just hides it better.
lol @ GG devs "considering" - it's obviously next-gen, they just can't say it yet.
CrazyTank940
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Svensson says next-gen Darkstalkers title is a fair fan request - currently unable to share news on that front
If anything after how apparently Resurrection didn't sell too well I'd be surprised if we even get a DS4.
That said, I'd still want one anyway. You guys can believe in your Marvel 4 or UMvC3 patch, I'll believe
in this one.
If anything after how apparently Resurrection didn't sell too well I'd be surprised if we even get a DS4.
That said, I'd still want one anyway. You guys can believe in your Marvel 4 or UMvC3 patch, I'll believe
and expect too much
Master Milk
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Doesn't matter. It'll still be a year after it's been out in arcades before it makes it here regardless.
X factor is a mixed bag, one more tuning to it should make it a more acceptable mechanic. Right now XF just maximizes the nuttiness in the game.
The pull of Marvel characters is definitely there, it's undeniable but its not a big factor in what keeps the game competitive and playable for a long time. MVC3 already has had 3 years of EVO behind it, that's an accomplishment in this day and age with so many fighting games competing for the EVO spots.
Logistically speaking Capcom All Stars is just a much wiser choice than Marvel 4. As online gaming, DLCs, patching etc. gets more common for fighting games Capcom can't afford to ask some guy across the globe if a certain character should be in or if the moveset matches up with what is required every time they update the game.
Exactly. The top tier characters became legendary because they were top tiers. Many people didn't know about Cable before MVC2. Hell Sentinel barely even qualifies as a "character" people liked him because of his game play. Magneto as well, people get hyped for Magneto because he's a fucking DBZ character in a Capcom game.
The pull of Marvel characters is definitely there, it's undeniable but its not a big factor in what keeps the game competitive and playable for a long time. MVC3 already has had 3 years of EVO behind it, that's an accomplishment in this day and age with so many fighting games competing for the EVO spots.
Logistically speaking Capcom All Stars is just a much wiser choice than Marvel 4. As online gaming, DLCs, patching etc. gets more common for fighting games Capcom can't afford to ask some guy across the globe if a certain character should be in or if the moveset matches up with what is required every time they update the game.
eh im happy with it being on current gen consoles IE consoles I own
Karsticles
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If Capcom came out and said:
"Marvel vs. Capcom 3 patch!"
"Darkstalkers 4!"
"Capcom All Stars!"
I don't even know what I would do with all my joy. I would be looking at trying to master 4 different fighting games out of the love for all of them.
"Marvel vs. Capcom 3 patch!"
"Darkstalkers 4!"
"Capcom All Stars!"
I don't even know what I would do with all my joy. I would be looking at trying to master 4 different fighting games out of the love for all of them.
Oh man, I want to be as cynical as you all can be especially since I played Brawl for 2 years and watched as numerous online communities for it died out because "netcode that makes Niitsuma look like he has a PhD in IT" as well as the design decisions that went into its core gameplay.
But FUCK man, dat ish got Megamane in it! My cool rationale is shot to hell for now. :lol
10/10
Sure. I still like playing AC a lot.
Amen, won't even matter if the game doesn't end up being mechanically better than Brawl, will get played the shit out of.