Metal Gear Solid V (PS3/360/PS4/XBO/Maybe PC) - Extended 9 minute E3 trailer

At least say you mean Twin Snakes version?...

Nope :D
I mean MGS1 whatever version, remove the online stuff from that MGS3 description and it explain exactly what i feel about MGS1
I think that every numbered MGS excels in something but the first one is the only one where i can't see something that isn't mediocre
MGS2 had the best themes
MGS3 had the best story
MGS4 have the finest gameplay

What does have MGS1?
 
Nope :D
I mean MGS1 whatever version, remove the online stuff from that MGS3 description and it explain exactly what i feel about MGS1
I think that every numbered MGS excels in something but the first one is the only one where i can't see something that isn't mediocre
MGS2 had the best themes
MGS3 had the best story
MGS4 have the finest gameplay

What does have MGS1?

Characters for one.
 
Nope :D
I mean MGS1 whatever version, remove the online stuff from that MGS3 description and it explain exactly what i feel about MGS1
I think that every numbered MGS excels in something but the first one is the only one where i can't see something that isn't mediocre
MGS2 had the best themes
MGS3 had the best story
MGS4 have the finest gameplay

What does have MGS1?

Well MGS2 means a lot less without MGS1 for starters, though if you hold MGS1 in the same regard to Snake Eater with the only exception being you preferred its tale better, I can at least understand you now.
 
Sometimes I feel like a unique little flower who enjoys every Metal Gear Solid game haha. Yes even Peace Walker.
Portable Ops too
 
Sometimes I feel like a unique little flower who enjoys every Metal Gear Solid game haha. Yes even Peace Walker.
Portable Ops too

These spoiler tags are---on the wrong game. ;)

I have no problem with Portable Ops...

Peace Walker on the other hand....

I'm kind of confused at how exclusionary people treat it now, Kojima included.
 
Man I really need to replay the whole goddamn thing soon. I need to get trophies (dumped MS after One debable) and I think the MGS Legacy Collection will be perfect for that.
 
I will - when I get a Vita :)



Oh, I know the story and I've watched a playthrough of everything, including the conversations and stuff - and I really enjoyed the story. I just want to play it for myself since it's on a handheld now. And also play the Zanzibar game too!
MG2SS is the best of the series.
 
Characters for one.
Yeah no MGS3 characters are way better than 1, even a secondary one like Granin is better than most of MGS1 ones. I can give you that Liquid is cool but that's it

Well MGS2 means a lot less without MGS1 for starters, though if you hold MGS1 in the same regard to Snake Eater with the only exception being you preferred its tale better, I can at least understand you now.

The gameplay is way better too, i already wrote about the characters and also MGS3 has the best of Hayter.
 
I will - when I get a Vita :)



Oh, I know the story and I've watched a playthrough of everything, including the conversations and stuff - and I really enjoyed the story. I just want to play it for myself since it's on a handheld now. And also play the Zanzibar game too!

I'd highly recommend getting one of the console HD versions, as the Vita version has a cut-down framerate by comparison.
 
Why is she so perfect?

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even a secondary one like Granin is better than most of MGS1 ones.

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Metal Gear Rising was a perfect follow up story wise after MGS4. Goofy, ridiculous, over the top, 90's action anime all rolled into one soulful package. Metal Gear can be a lot of things, Rising proved that in spades.

The fiction of Metal Gear is fantastic pre-MGS4. MGS4 felt like pandering and fan service for how characters and narrative was treated in MGS2, and quite honestly, Kojima shouldn't listen or pander to people that detest MGS2.
"Nanomachines, son" is one of the best punchlines ever.

The avalanche of bullshit in MGS4 was almost worth it, just to hear that line in Rising.
 
Yeah no MGS3 characters are way better than 1, even a secondary one like Granin is better than most of MGS1 ones. I can give you that Liquid is cool but that's it



The gameplay is way better too, i already wrote about the characters and also MGS3 has the best of Hayter.
The Boss> all
Solid>Naked
Mei-Ling>>Paramedic
Ocelot=Ocelot
Meryl>>>Eva
Foxhound>>>Cobra Unit
Campbell<Zero
 
The Boss> all-true
Solid>Naked-up for debate, but in context I agree
Mei-Ling>>Paramedic-true
Ocelot=Ocelot-in the context of the entire series, yeah, but in the context of each game I prefer MGS3 Ocelot
Meryl>>>Eva-true
Foxhound>>>Cobra Unit-definitely true
Campbell<Zero-again, in the context of the series, true, but Campbell was far and away more interesting in MGS1 than Zero in MGS3

Regarding the Japanese dub, didn't the initial Ground Zeroes trailer use Otsuka's facial animation? It matched perfectly with his voice.
No. His lips are moving before Otsuka starts, and it doesn't match what he's saying. "Kept you waiting" matches perfectly and the "huh" is said with his teeth together. Also, all of Skull Face's lines match the English, as opposed to the Japanese which is off by a fair amount.
 
Wait, were we talking about the best handheld Metal Gear game?

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Still one of the best plots, and actually makes the whole Big Boss story more logical than what we got
Outer Heaven was a clandestine US plot, with Big Boss running it, but Big Boss went rogue
. Would work perfectly as a canon entry if at the end of MGS5 Big Boss goes back to join Zero. It would end up just being a plot for revenge.

It's really only MGS4 and PW that are fucking weird. I wonder if it's a bad sign of things to come:|

"If you want your battery to recharge faster, eat food to gain more stamina so that it does."

wat

"Flashlight ran out of battery? Just go get some McDonalds."

It's all connected to one battery, which I guess is powered by his body's energy. So eat, and your battery is recharged!
 
These spoiler tags are---on the wrong game. ;)

I have no problem with Portable Ops...

Peace Walker on the other hand....

I'm kind of confused at how exclusionary people treat it now, Kojima included.

How come? Story or gameplay wise? I thought the story and gameplay were much better in PW (but the boss battles got tiresome after awhile). The recruiting system in Portable Ops sucked donkey dick. Having to drag each soldier to your truck every time was ridiculous.
 
this makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, the gameplay is definitely gimped in comparison. The game is short though, so it's easy to play through again every once in a while.

I mean, can you really say, a battle like Sniper Wolfs, is as fun to play compared to The End? :P
 
what if the "not really big boss" rumours are true

what if it's chico

what if it's paz
 
what if the "not really big boss" rumours are true

what if it's chico

what if it's paz

No, it's clearly Sea Lemon who you recruit for Outer/Extra Ops. I leveled him up to the max. I would not be surprised if he is the one we're playing instead of Big Boss, he became my most trusted recruit.
 
Well, the gameplay is definitely gimped in comparison. The game is short though, so it's easy to play through again every once in a while.

I mean, can you really say, a battle like Sniper Wolfs, is as fun to play compared to The End? :P
Painfully obvious you didn't play mgs1 when it was new.
 
Painfully obvious you didn't play mgs1 when it was new.

That's not really his fault though. In a way, it could make him more impartial if he was looking at the series as a whole and comparing each entry against each other.

I can't say either way, as I haven't properly played the original game yet, just the Twin Snakes version.
 
Wait, were we talking about the best handheld Metal Gear game?

Yes! :p I loved that game so much. If Nintendo and Konami don't release this on the VC soon, then I will... cry. I loved the female character too - Chris.

Like Ether_Snake said, it'd work well to end MGSV with Big Boss or Zero extending an olive branch. The USA/Patriots use Outer Heaven as their private military with Big Boss as the commander of both that and FOXHOUND. However, Miller is done with revenge - how much can he take? He just wants to move on. However, Big Boss secretly plans to go rogue since he just wants to go on a path of non-stop cycle of revenge.
 
This was posted by snake_dante44 on another forum

"Big Boss in GDC trailer:
- he has no scar at all on his face
- his eyepatch only has 2 straps
- no ponytail
- smoking real cigars with his left hand"
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"Big Boss in E3 trailer:
- has plenty of scars on his face
- eyepatch has 3 straps
- has ponytail
- smoking e-cigars with his right hand"

I don't know if Kojima decided to go with another character model or the Big Boss we seen in the GDC trailer is further in the game where he receives treatment and looks better. I personally don't like the E3 model he looks fatter and less intimidating than the GDC model.

GDC Big Boss
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E3 2013 Big Boss
MGSV_E3_Trailer_Big_Boss_Watch.jpg
 
Painfully obvious you didn't play mgs1 when it was new.

Well the painful truth is that I got my MGS1 right at the European launch. Thus becoming the first game I bought day one, with my own money, based on magazine and media hype.

I was trying to look outside the nostalgic perspective. Which is the biggest reason I've played trough MGS well over 30 times since I was 9 years old.
 
This was posted by snake_dante44 on another forum

"Big Boss in GDC trailer:
- he has no scar at all on his face
- his eyepatch only has 2 straps
- no ponytail
- smoking real cigars with his left hand"
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Big Boss in E3 trailer:
- has plenty of scars on his face
- eyepatch has 3 straps
- has ponytail
- smoking e-cigars with his right hand"

I don't know if Kojima decided to go with another character model or the Big Boss we seen in the GDC trailer is further in the game where he receives treatment and looks better. I personally don't like the E3 model he looks fatter and less intimidating than the GDC model.

GDC Big Boss
http://s18.postimg.org/fs0b5s8p5/Snake_Hayter_Tweet_600x337.jpg[IMG]

E3 2013 Big Boss
[IMG]http://s18.postimg.org/c3am6ayo9/MGSV_E3_Trailer_Big_Boss_Watch.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
I actually like the E3 one more. The "horn" makes more sense with all the scars and overall does he remind me more of the snake we know from the previous games.
 
I actually like the E3 one more. The "horn" makes more sense with all the scars and overall does he remind me more of the snake we know from the previous games.

Question remains, are they the same person?

How's Kojima reputation in character changes from trailer to trailer? (It happens a lot in videogames, particulary during development, but I don't think it has happened to Kojima... coud be wrong)
 
I actually like the E3 one more. The "horn" makes more sense with all the scars and overall does he remind me more of the snake we know from the previous games.

Same, GDC BB looks like a villain from some 80's action flick. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but E3 BB just looks "cooler" to me.
 
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