Tonight? You mean tomorrow night?
Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | June 2013 | Late Ports and Late Threads
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Tonight? You mean tomorrow night?
Nice. I have $10 in my wallet just for this game.
corrosivefrost
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He says "flavorful"... well, I guess that's one way to spin it.
Before: I don't like places full of humans. Such endless desire brings so much gloom.
After: I am less than fond of places where there are too many humans. Their unfulfilled desires cast an endlass pall over the whole country.
Before: There have been rumours about a monster appearing here. We shouldn't stay long.
After: The negativity generated by mortals is easily turned to evil deeds. I've heard rumours of monsters appearing in this area. We shouldn't dally here much longer.
Befor: It's not right for you to enter such a place. Forget about that girl, master.
After: I cannot bear to see you frequent such lowly places. Please forget about that harlot, otherwise I will no longer be able to assist you.
Before: Jealous, Kongiku? I'm not going there to have fun. I need to recover Momohime's soul!
After: No need for the jealousy act, Kongiku. You have nother to worry about; this is hardly the time to be screwing around. I need to find Momohime's soul.
I'd take the before in EVERY SINGLE CASE there. :shrug:
No. PSN Maintenance is tomorrow.
SCEA did something right for once (we'll see) and is updating early to avoid a repeat of the last fiasco.
Like I said in the OT, keep in mind that you're taking the conversation in that preview completely out of context. And the reason why Momohime is talking like she is is related to the story. :/
But the After is what the original script is like. It's your prerogative if you prefer the former, but the latter is what the character's mannerisms while talking actually are. There should ideally be no "Before" if Ignition didn't do a terrible localization job in the first place.
corrosivefrost
Member
Context doesn't matter if I don't like the style of writing (and I don't).
Even if I knew everything that happened in the game, I'm not going to like the dialogue any better.
On one hand, I've never played it and I always wanted to. If I buy it, I can support Aksys and the Vita.
However, I do not really want to spend $35 on something where I think the re-localization (which probably added a decent amount of time to the release date for NA) is really bad.
And I'd still say "I really hate the text." and continue to think the localization was bad.
Maybe some people loved FFV where Feris talked like a pirate, because, y'know, she's supposed to be a pirate. But I loathed it and dropped the game after about 3 text boxes worth of dialogue from her (especially after having played part of the game with a fan translation which was excellent).
Hell, the same can be said for the dubs/subs for anime too. The dattebayo subs for Naruto were better than the official Viz subs and much better than any of the english dubs.
It's a gorgeous, elaborately drawn game with tons of style and it's not afraid to show off its design. Why not have a script to match? The "before" is so robotic. These characters look like they should be speaking dramatically, imo.
of course, I say that, and I'll end up skipping the text when I actually play lol
of course, I say that, and I'll end up skipping the text when I actually play lol
Sweet deal. Buy that and don't look back. Those two mem cards alone make it worth it at that price, plus the games.
corrosivefrost
Member
I don't think being direct is robotic, at least from the comparison shots I've seen. Hell, if they just "spiced" the old one up here and there, I doubt I'd have a problem. But from what I've read of the new translation, I do not want to read another word. So I really would be like you and skip the text.
You don't want or need the 3g part. It's pretty much useless. I think most people in here don't use theirs, even if they have it.
That's a great deal. GRAB IT!
That's an incorrect comparison with FFV though. The FFV localization was bad because despite being a pirate, that's not how Faris talked in FFV at all. It was something added in "simply because Faris is a pirate", without looking at the source material. In Muramasa's case, that way of talking is what the characters are actually saying, and not some made up flavor text added for no reason.
The problem with the Ignition localizaton wasn't that it was "direct", but that it was incredibly vanilla, wrote every character the same without taking personalities or mannerisms in mind, and even left whole chunks of the game "untranslated" with romanized japanese that makes no sense to the average english speaker. Even without the flavor text, it's still a really lazy job that only delivers the bare minimum of the effort the game needed.
But I'll agree to disagree on this. The game itself is still fun and you can play it without paying the story any mind.
Amazing deal, buy it. As an owner of a 3G Vita, I have to say that you're not missing out on anything by not getting the 3G model.
Gamespawn
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I use mine to power up in Disgaea.I don't think being direct is robotic, at least from the comparison shots I've seen. Hell, if they just "spiced" the old one up here and there, I doubt I'd have a problem. But from what I've read of the new translation, I do not want to read another word. So I really would be like you and skip the text.
You don't want or need the 3g part. It's pretty much useless. I think most people in here don't use theirs, even if they have it.
That's a great deal. GRAB IT!
Most of the time, I am #TeamLessIsMore, but the first translation screams boring and made on a lazy afternoon, even if the new translation really could use some trimming.
I agree there. The after is SOMETIMES a little too much, but I think I prefer it through most of those quotes.
corrosivefrost
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Agreeing to disagree is fine. No worries -- I wasn't trying to change your mind, just trying to offer my point of view and letting you know that my mind isn't going to change either.
In my opinion, it's the job of a localization effort to make the story and text translate well into another language -- including their culture. There's a bit of... discretion... that needs to be used to gauge the target audience and how well things will be received. Doing like Ignition did and succinctly translating the story into a form of Cliff's notes isn't necessarily the right approach; then again neither is directly translating everything and then trying to make it grammatically correct. From the new translation, I get the impression that the Fox Geisha could've been ripped out of a Shakespearian play and I do not enjoy whatever they did with her style of speaking -- it's like they took the old version and said "how can we make it longer and fill it with vocabulary words?"
I would wager that if the game had no localization and a team of fans translated it, much like dattebayo was subbing the Naruto episodes (and others) until it was being officially streamed with subs, I would like the translation more than either of the "official" ones, much as I liked the FFV SNES ROM translation patch version the best. I at least wish, that with a file size of 500mb, that they would've put the old Ignition localization in there and gave people a choice.
BomberMouse
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My copy of Patton arrived and brought you an album of pictures before disappearing mysteriously.
Fun game with bad controls and looks like crap. If this was a 3DS game it would get 8/10.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59736596@N03/sets/72157634309082855/
Fun game with bad controls and looks like crap. If this was a 3DS game it would get 8/10.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59736596@N03/sets/72157634309082855/
corrosivefrost
Member
Speaking of localizations, do we know why the SCEE/SCEA Soul Sacrifice translation ditched the Arthurian Legend naming?
ThatStupidLion
Member
My copy of Patton arrived and brought you an album of pictures before disappearing mysteriously.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59736596@N03/sets/72157634309082855/
nice thanks! aside from the graphics how does it play?? would love to hear your impressions. i think you're like the 2nd person on here to say they bought it and have proof.
TVTropes says that there were complaints in some areas of Europe about the game using names from Arthurian legend. Don't know if it's true though.
Here in Ontario, tonight means tomorrow night. Games only become available for me (and my friend) after 5ish. Really annoying since I'm up until 1am everynight anyway.
corrosivefrost
Member
I kinda figured as much -- that if the localization team was based out of EU that someone thought "we can't use Arthurian names because people will think it's weird or whatever".
I'd much prefer they'd kept em... would've made the game even better. Now I keep thinking of fighting Magusar, not Merlin. Fighting Merlin is much more bad ass.
What time zone is that? I'm EDT and I've never seen a store update go up past say, 11pm. Unless it gets delayed by days for some reason (see: Soul Sacrifice Demo release snafu).
BomberMouse
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Just edited that part in. From what I've played I think it's a fun game with some interesting systems. It draws some inspiration from the VC games by having some sort of crossfire when it's not your turn. You can buy new units, upgrade them, etc.
It's fun but looks like crap and controls weirdly. If this was a 3DS game it would totally pass due to the lower resolution and anormal controls but people expect different things from a console with dual analogs. It's weird to control a cursor with the right stick instead of the camera.
What I'm trying to say, it's a fun game but people have far higher expectations for a Vita game. It's a great PSP or 3DS game but a barely serviceable Vita game. Don't know if that makes sense for most of you.
You're in for a treat when you play the others, they're all really enjoyable series. (imo)I wanted all of them so I bit now. Jak 1 is so freaking good. I don't know how i went through the entire PS2 generation without playing Jak, Ratchet or Sly. What the hell was wrong with me?
I guess lucky for me I can correct those mistakes now
If Sanzaru is be handling to the Sly 1-3 Vita ports internally then I'm not too worried going by the quality of Sly 4 Vita (even though it did suffer from some drops in certain areas)
That's a crazy deal!
Hope you enjoy your Vita after you've purchased it.
corrosivefrost
Member
Which sale is this?
Weekly sales
CertifiedFP
Member
Come on, when's the update?
(Also, for a tad bit of irony, I was so goddamned overtired from the previous night that I thought today was Tuesday already and thought it was coming out today before I even realized it was pushed forward.)
(Also, for a tad bit of irony, I was so goddamned overtired from the previous night that I thought today was Tuesday already and thought it was coming out today before I even realized it was pushed forward.)
Reluctant-Hero
Member
This update may be a day early, but we're still at the mercy of GCT. So relax, Vitabros. It's bets to assume that the update will go live tomorrow.
corrosivefrost
Member
Ahh, on the blog post. I see it now, thanks Chedz.
Is Escape Plan worth $3.74 or whatever?
BigWeather
Member
Wow, great deal on that Vita! I'm still kicking myself for not jumping on the $250 w/ $50 Amazon GC deal just before E3. I was so sure we'd see a price drop, haha.
a secret-boss
Banned
i ordered my Vita yesterday for $129 (used cowboom)
then got 16GB memory card for $22 (trade in games gmaestop)
then got 16GB memory card for $22 (trade in games gmaestop)
Welcome bro
The Last Wizard
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Hurry sony! I want to play Hotline before bed!!
ThatStupidLion
Member
Congrats! Good deal - lets us know your impressions when you get a chance. Welcome to the vita community
This is a freakishly awesome deal. Buy it now.
The 3G model is pointless, don't even bother considering it.
Welcome to the family! That was indeed a great deal.
Now go get PS Plus. That will get you set for quite some time.
a secret-boss
Banned
I already have PS+ (2yrs) because of PS3 (just bought recently too)
couldn't believe wat I've been missing. great service
corrosivefrost
Member
I don't think anybody is going to be enjoying Destiny of Spirits much. [/toto]
Vita one is portable. Portable always wins out. When I have the time to chill with my PS3, I would rather play things I can only play on it, rather than something I could run through literally anywhere else.
Yup. I've already Platinumed the PS3 version of Jak 1! Now I want it on Vita
Buy it!!!!!!
Life of Pixel is garbage. I deleted it after the 10th time having to do a leap of faith to an off-screen location and dying because I couldn't predict the future and know where to land. That's just bad design.
Don't buy it.
EDIT: I just noticed I'm a full-fledged NeoGAF Member now. Hell yes!
Don't buy it.
EDIT: I just noticed I'm a full-fledged NeoGAF Member now. Hell yes!
BertleTheTurtle
Member
Meanwhile, I'm still waiting and I've been here 2 years.
C'mon Hotline Miami. I need to sleep soon.
darkjedi187
Member
I need my vita fix now Sony... update now... please
Edit:
Top post! Buy murasama and hotline Miami today
Murasama on its way and if the store would update I would get HM. Welcome aboard new Vita owners!!
corrosivefrost
Member
Do you post a lot? Cause if you don't have a certain number of posts, I think you get left a junior...
C'mon... why isn't it up via store search.