I don't think Iizuka would actually know anything about the character's use outside games Sonic Team makes, there's a good chance it was already finalized without his involvement.
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I don't think Iizuka would actually know anything about the character's use outside games Sonic Team makes, there's a good chance it was already finalized without his involvement.
We don't know? More likely than not since he's popular and already in Brawl but we have no clue.
They designed themselves into a hole with this thing. They wrongfully thought the only real way to evolve smash bros was to put it on a handheld. Then they realize it's holding back the game but since it's decided, they go along with it anyway, and now the game might suffer in ways, which is ironic considering the 'evolution' sentiment. So stupid.
Hope you're right, I really want him in this game.
IntelliHeath
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Nope, they wouldn't. Sakurai confirmed that it wouldn't be in the game.
Why couldn't I keep my foot out of my mouth :/
It was stupid of me to assume that he didn't care, and there were clearly some extraneous factors at work here.
I'm getting more and more excited for this new smash game. Seriously, I trust in Sakurai to deliver us a title that won't let us down.
No, he definitely meant total number of characters in one of the more recent interviews.
NeonZ
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We've already seen matches there, and also a fairly long continuous play in the developers direct video.
I guess it could be something like Cresselia in Spear Pillar, which has a small chance of appearing at the start of the match, but, eh, I still don't see why they'd have ended the trailer with a stage hazard, even though the stage otherwise has gotten plenty of show time and even explanations.
I don't profess to know what was going on with 4, but 5 was definitely a victim of corporate meddling due to Namco only giving Odashima and the rebuilt Project Soul like a year to churn out a game. There was a lot of content planned that didn't make it in because they just didn't have the time.
Ideally, such a thing won't be as much of a concern for Sakurai. I could see him delaying the game(s) rather than release something that didn't measure up to his standards or what he wanted in.
Anyone have an exact quote for this?
IntelliHeath
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Spring-Loaded
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What??? That just sucks. By trying to get in more "tourney-safe" stages, they'll end up with more boring, static stages
Can't check right now, but he had noted the technical limitations of the 3DS in terms of bringing the whole cast from Brawl over to SSB4. That made it sound pretty explicit.
Hopefully the online play will actually be good this time. Then you can play lots of people on GAF.
IntelliHeath
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Is this same article that you are talking about?
http://shoryuken.com/2013/06/24/pol...er-is-stressful-almost-to-the-brink-of-death/
Xane
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Sakurai completed the roster for Brawl as early as 2005 AFAIK. Only exception were Snake and Sonic (who got added in 2007).
I was surprised they said it too lol.
Nope. I've got the time now, so let me look for it.
Edit: It was from the Kotaku interview:
That quote's actually not really differently worded compared to the original statement in the same vein, so I thought it was more explicit than it is. However, when "due to certain limitations of the 3DS [we need to] reduce characters to a certain degree" is in direct reply to if people's favorites from Brawl will be returning, I really think it's disingenuous to think he's not talking about the roster size.
Now THAT is a long informative interview still making my way through it.
Yep I think he always completes the roster and if there's some time left he might try to add more.
Yep I think he always completes the roster and if there's some time left he might try to add more.
ViewtifulJC
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I can't believe they even thought a Smash Bros only on 3DS was a good idea
Spring-Loaded
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HHHOOOOOWWWWW!?
Pointillism
HHHOOOOOWWWWW!?
WHAT
Weiner Whistle
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HHHOOOOOWWWWW!?
Where do people find the time to do this?!
friskykillface
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at least that ends the debate of character limit since some thought Sakurai was being misquoted
all dat power in the wii u and its for nothing
should have just ported melee to the 3DS with added brawl characters
*runs with flame shield*
all dat power in the wii u and its for nothingshould have just ported melee to the 3DS with added brawl characters
*runs with flame shield*
ViewtifulJC
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RIP Diddy Kong/Lucario/Lucas/ROB/Snake/Wolf/Young Link
Not even sure what the point is of holding back the Wii U version because of the 3DS version when both versions can't even communicate with each other except for whatever Sakurai's mentioned in vague statements. Heck, if the game was just a Wii U exclusive, it could be a veritable system seller.
Why would lucas go, why would wolf go, I have explained lucario countless times, and why would diddy go.
The other two make sense.
You can't take Diddy away from me!
Yes.
Dispute the fact that I would love Toon link replacing the normal one, He is just link. Wolf got in because he was a highly requested character, and his moveset is unique.
I see falco getting the boot before wolf. And I do not see Falco getting the boot.
Or there's just an issue with the smaller visual window. Pikmin might be difficult to see when they're literally a pixel wide.
I'm opposed to the very existence of a 3DS version. It doesn't mean it won't be fine, but it certainly means that the Wii U version won't be as good as it could have been without a 3DS version.
ViewtifulJC
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By that logic Ganon should get the boot.
RIP Ganon, hello Girahnim
PorygonVandal
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lol no I rather have Vaati, at least he has appeared in more Zelda....
I am literally going to kill myself if the 3DS versions restricts the number of characters on the WiiU version.
no I'm not
if there is no cross play between the 3ds and wiiu version, I don't get why the 3ds would hold the wiiu version back.
Of course we don't know how the 2 games will communicate, but the most basic thing they could do is share stats, the trophy and sticker stuff from ssbb, but that just metadata. 3ds wouldn't compromise the wiiu version in that regard.
The only conclusion is there is gameplay altering content between the 3ds and wiiu.
Of course we don't know how the 2 games will communicate, but the most basic thing they could do is share stats, the trophy and sticker stuff from ssbb, but that just metadata. 3ds wouldn't compromise the wiiu version in that regard.
The only conclusion is there is gameplay altering content between the 3ds and wiiu.
IntelliHeath
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It sucks that Street Fighter and Tekken got tiny, limited rosters on 3DS compared to the HD consoles
:lol well done.
I'm not sure what his original statement said since there are few variable translation of what he said.
It sucks that Street Fighter and Tekken got tiny, limited rosters on 3DS compared to the HD consoles
That's...a fairly good point actually.
To put things in perspective, characters in Tekken have movesets that go beyond hundreds of moves. Not one single character was removed from Tekken 6 HD to Tekken 3D Prime Edition, and that's with the crappy movie shoehorned in which probably hogged most of the space.
Not to mention Street Fighter and Tekken (same with DOA and BB) are early or launch games which probably don't use big game cards.
Not to mention Street Fighter and Tekken (same with DOA and BB) are early or launch games which probably don't use big game cards.
It sucks that Street Fighter and Tekken got tiny, limited rosters on 3DS compared to the HD consoles
Thing SF, Tekken, and DOA don't have:
- 4 players in a match
- players can be characters that have a multitude of characters (Pikmin, Ice Climbers)
- all 4 players should potentially be able to play as one of those characters at the same time
- items/assist trophies/Pokémon
- more dynamic stages/hazards
The first point isn't really an issue, but when you consider the rest of it should perform like Melee/Brawl it makes one wonder how much the 3DS can handle.
That makes things sound better. I wonder if stating the 3DS is a limiting factor for the roster is another lame excuse like videos on Youtube being why the cutscenes aren't distributed alongside the single player content anymore.
Then again, like the above describes, SSB is far more dense when it comes to content (especially amount of content in a screen at once).