Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!
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It's very fun, but it's also way more broken in terms of balance and mechanics. Touch of death combos are everywhere. Melee also has more than twice the cast, stages, music, so it gives a wider range in audience too.
NeonZ
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It's not that people don't think the 3DS version will happen, it's that people are annoyed that the Wii U version is apparently being held back for feature parity with the 3DS version.
Really, thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the real reason for the whole "no CG movies" bit, rather than any internet uploads. They can't afford to waste space with a 3DS cart (IIRC, almost half of Brawl's data was taken just by the SSE cutscenes).
peanutbutterlatte
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That's reading into things a fair bit. There are plenty of 3DS games with CG cutscenes, Resi Revelations, Monster Hunter, Kingdom Hearts. It's not like the 3DS carts are tiny either.
I honestly think we'll need more info before we start decrying the 3DS version for holding things back.
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It is an abusive relationship.
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NeonZ
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"There are plenty of 3DS games with CG cutscenes" is a pretty empty statement. Like I said, almost half of Brawl's dual layer disc was taken by the cutscenes. Are there even 3DS carts as big as a dual layer DVD?
Also, even putting that issue aside, which is just speculation, Sakurai himself has talked about troubles implementing characters in the 3DS version in several interviews.
I'm talking about direct linking not going there. All we can see is the 4chan logo. You're lucky moot doesn't have goatse as his anti hotlinking image.
But 3DS cutscenes will be at the lower 3DS screens resolution, lowering the space they need too.
Also, Brawl had ~1.6GB of music.
What's the storage capacity of the 3DS carts, it eludes me at the moment.
I'm hoping they go all out with the soundtrack again, guest composers and all. I'm a huge fan of video game music, so seeing a lot of my favorite video game composers work on Brawl was a dream come true.
I'm hoping they go all out with the soundtrack again, guest composers and all. I'm a huge fan of video game music, so seeing a lot of my favorite video game composers work on Brawl was a dream come true.
Has the guy taken a stance agaist hot linking? I have no idea what goes on with who runs it. I just go for smash pics.
But I'll stop. Well.. reddit I guess
It's been like that for years. Just re-upload it to imgur like everyone else does.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Wait, no CG movies?
Does that mean no intro to the game? Where did Sakurai said that?
Im sorry to only handheld owners, but Im not liking the 3DS version one bit.
I want a 3DS version, I will welcome a portable Smash with open arms.
But portable Smash better watch the fuck out, and not ruin/butcher/compromise my home console version in anyway shape of form.
The N64 version didn't have a CG intro. Don't see why No CG movies = no intro.
I never knew, well alright.
astarisborn94
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Smash 64 is still my favorite Smash game. Can't really beat nostalgia here.
Also just want to bring this up: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/66491959
I know it's roster size related, but I don't think the 3DS should hold it back too much.
Also just want to bring this up: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/66491959
I know it's roster size related, but I don't think the 3DS should hold it back too much.
DICKS AHOY
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Considering the roster is the only thing the two games are going to be at parity at and Sakurai's already heavily implied the 3DS game may launch significantly after the Wii U version, I'm not buying into the idea one version of the game is holding back the other. The closest thing I think we'll see are transformation/2-per-1 characters scaled down (makes me think Diddy/Dixie ain't happening if getting the IC to work decently is already proving to be a bitch) and no new characters who have those or Olimar's style of movesets.
I just don't see how after pumping out a game as demanding as Uprising and Namco a fighting game with a roster as huge as Tekken on the 3DS there would be a scenario where Sakurai would have drafted up a roster of characters and realized a chunk of them simply won't work on the 3DS, or Namco suddenly wouldn't have the expertise to work with such a large cast of characters on a 3DS fighting game.
I just don't see how after pumping out a game as demanding as Uprising and Namco a fighting game with a roster as huge as Tekken on the 3DS there would be a scenario where Sakurai would have drafted up a roster of characters and realized a chunk of them simply won't work on the 3DS, or Namco suddenly wouldn't have the expertise to work with such a large cast of characters on a 3DS fighting game.
NeonZ
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Well, no CG movies for the single player mode he's making this time. That's what he said. It doesn't rule out a CG opening like in Melee.
I don't think the transformation characters are in danger. The main issue there is just loading times, which shouldn't be a problem for the 3DS. 2 in one and people like Olimar might be the ones suffering with the transition.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
The co-op event matches in Brawl were awesome, put that in your pipe and trip on it Melee!
I like Melee
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Well... I don't know what to tell you, the 3DS version is a thing, and I doubt they'd let the console version be affected that much.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Sakurai said that the 3DS couldn't handle Final Destination and it will have to be cut. A little Birdo just told me.
The 3DS is almost as powerful as a GCN, I think it can handle any number of playable characters.
I wouldn't mind seeing the following characters cut to be honest:
Falco
Wolf
Ike
Lucario
ROB
Toon Link
I'd like it if Snake and Lucas were in SSB4, but I see them being likely cuts if Sakurai really wants to cull the roster. I think Sakurai knows that if he only puts in a handful of new characters, people will draw comparisons to the number of new fighters in each installment, so he has to at least match those previous numbers. Getting rid of dead weight and clones will help.
I wouldn't mind seeing the following characters cut to be honest:
Falco
Wolf
Ike
Lucario
ROB
Toon Link
I'd like it if Snake and Lucas were in SSB4, but I see them being likely cuts if Sakurai really wants to cull the roster. I think Sakurai knows that if he only puts in a handful of new characters, people will draw comparisons to the number of new fighters in each installment, so he has to at least match those previous numbers. Getting rid of dead weight and clones will help.
Source or it didn't happen...
But don't you know? Any character who was at any point of development considered for inclusion for a while but later thrown out for any reason at all WAS ALWAYS DESTINED AND MEANT FOR INCLUSION AND UNJUSTLY DENIED THEIR TIME IN THE SUN.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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Tourney level or not, I prefer how Melee plays over Brawl's content. I like single player fluff, but more content does not make for a better game in my opinion, the gameplay does. I had tons of fun with Brawl but it didn't hold up as long after I exhausted the content because the gameplay to me played worse. It's really a few tweaks away from being great though, even Brawl+, which didn't change it as dramatically as Project M does plays much much better now that the game lacks tripping/has real combos/etc.
I don't like you.
He's a fun character, but his time has passed. I would rather see a Chrom/Lucina duo take his place.
Absolutely
So when you guys saw the latest daily screenshot, did anyone else think of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ywTZ3xgReiM#t=20s
Maybe I'm just getting old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ywTZ3xgReiM#t=20s
Maybe I'm just getting old.
All of the daily images have featured characters and levels that were already shown at E3. The release is still far off so I'm not really surprised, but when do ya'll expect that we'll get a look at new content? TGS?New pic:
Maybe we'll get a look at Olimar timed with the release of Pikmin 3?
Snkfanatic
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New pic:
Hnnng, just makes me think of what the next Animal Crossing could look like.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
While that is reasonable there are plenty of characters that applies that still were in brawl so, eh why not.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
They could keep Ike and have Chrom. No reason why not... I mean, you have too many blue-haired characters running around, I guess it could be confusing, but who cares? I'm hoping for a non-Chrom rep anyway, something out of left-field like Morgan.
Fire Emblem is unique in the way that it has new protagonists nearly every game. Outside of Marth, who was the first protagonist, there really isn't anyone who symbolizes the series. I mean, Roy got in Smash before his actual game came out, and was replaced by Ike since he was more current. Many consider FE Awakening to be the best FE game, and maybe the best selling. The characters in the game are much loved by the fanbase, so it seems pretty obvious to replace Ike with an FE Awakening character. Specially a Chrom/Lucina pair as it not only highlights a major feature of FEA, but would also be pretty unique and separate them from Marth.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That would make sense. I'm concerned about roster counts. I would love to see between 45-50. I guess it mightn't be possible after all since they are trying to put everything in the game for both system.
What a teaser.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Sure, but crazier things have happened.
I will wait and see , for now baseless speculation.
NEW SMASH BROS ANIME BY GAINAX AND NEW POKEMON ANIME BY GAINAX BUT IT HAS A STORY AND ISNT RESTRICTED MY MERCHANDISING.
I got this from my anonymous source, ( my own delusions)
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I have yet to watch that in its entirety
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Technically speaking Roy would be in Brawl too.
Watch it now while it's free in Crunchy Roll. Who knows what evil Saban might do.
Watch it now while it's free in Crunchy Roll. Who knows what evil Saban might do.
Don't do this to me dude. A Pokémon anime based on the game's universe (with an original prequel/midquel/sequel story to any game) would be amazing. I wouldn't mind something self-contained either -- just make a good story and stop trying to roughly follow the game.
The best would be a Hollywood-level movie franchise with elements from the games, anime manga and the series all around though. Maybe even live-action, but it would work even as animated. 90's kids are adults now; everyone would enjoy Pokémon features that target at least partly on its legacy.
Red Arremer
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I made a new translation of the French interview:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66421646&postcount=149
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66421646&postcount=149
I just wanna see Gainax animate a lucario fighting anything.
Is it any good, I started watching WAY back when it first came out, I kinda of forgot about it since episodes were being released on a week by week basis and I watch a majority of my anime in bulk.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Good Job, Dude.