Seasoned Badger
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I still remember when you announced your departure from EMP on Spooky's stream. It was so serious and this was back when the FGC really had nothing. I forgot where I was going with this.
Fighting Games Weekly | July 1-7 | Heel turns, shattered dreams, broken cages
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I still remember when you announced your departure from EMP on Spooky's stream. It was so serious and this was back when the FGC really had nothing. I forgot where I was going with this.
And much of the cash flow is from certain broke FGC people to other broke FGC people.
Art seemed paranoid when he made that announcement. He wanted to know what kind of control did Triforce have over him.
Still can't watch archives on phone. Sigh twitch app.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Dahbomb, quit hating on Logan he's still A class in our hearts and is still stupid with Rapid Slash assist
RockTurtle
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so i mentioned before doing a character bounty where if i a certain character is played in top 8 or 4, the player gets a bonus.
would that be a feasible idea?
would that be a feasible idea?
LMAO! I am not even hating on Logan, he's still top 10 but to say silly stuff like "nerfing Missiles would make the game into derp rushdown" is fucking stupid. It in fact would make armor teams much more viable along with Haggar teams which wreck Wolverine and rushdown. The only thing that nerfing Missiles will do is make the game 100x more playable. Crimsonspider has and always will be a scumbag Hidden Missiles user/defender.
Already been done, Jebailey put out a bounty on Phoenix Wright making top 8 at EVO. Didn't happen but at least we got MODOK and Captain America in top 8!
SolarPowered
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Just skimmed the last couple of pages and I see that some people are finally getting it. Missiles, Foot Dive knockdown time and TAC infies in general are stupid though.
CrazyTank940
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I wish there were more FG players on pc master race
My only problem with PC gaming is that it's not as good for local multiplayer imo, which my friends and I do a lot of. Sure it's possible on PC but you got two people for one monitor which most likely isn't as large as a TV and couch for two or more people. It's a different experience really and I just prefer the couch and TV method. One day when the steambox becomes a more affordable thing (if it's even out yet, and I'd guess it won't exactly be cheap on day 1, then again what console is) I'll jump on that, because it allows for pc gaming with the TV and couch enviornment.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Anybody want to do March Madness-style brackets for EVO for the final day?
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I don't get the argument of fundamentals. Can people really say that Justin loses to ChrisG because he is not a fundamentally sound player? Yeah I can see that applying to numerous other players who play recklessly or try to throw coins but that is not Justin's play style at all. Out of all the teams that Justin has ever fought, no other team gives him the amount of trouble that ChrisG's team does.
Unless you want to argue that ChrisG has superior fundamentals to Justin Wong. Or that Justin Wong simply loses because his team is not strong enough to defeat Chris'.
Unless you want to argue that ChrisG has superior fundamentals to Justin Wong. Or that Justin Wong simply loses because his team is not strong enough to defeat Chris'.
Other than TOs right?
SolarPowered
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That'll do it. JWong is fundamentally one of the strongest players in the genre so he'd definitely be a worthy opponent.
RockTurtle
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i beat him with my blanka spamming electricity. I challenge this notion!
scytheavatar
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Justin is obviously fundamentally sound, but he has his issues. His team and gameplan is extremely reliant on assists and when his opponents don't let themselves be locked down by Tatsu/Shopping Cart he tends to struggle. That's why when you saw him use Tatsu against PR Rog you know that he's in trouble; PR Rog knows how to deal with Tatsu very well and gets a ton of happy birthdays everytime he fights Justin's Tatsu team. Players like Moons and Rayray give Justin a lot of trouble too; look at how in CEO Rayray was punishing Tatsu with Ryu and managed to kill Justin's Wolvie almost everytime.
Chris G on the other hand knows how to play without his assists; he makes a ton of Doom and Vergil solo comebacks everytime. Justin makes Akuma comebacks too but not as consistently as he did in vanilla.
Also execution wise Chris G is extremely underrated and he actually drops few combos. While Justin keeps dropping drill claw into Fatal Claw.
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I feel like he's been getting by on this these days. Not nearly as many Morrigan lock down blow ups as there used to be.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Yep. A scumbag hidden missile defender here. Let's not nerf one of the assists that allow zoning to hell. Or you know, nerf it like FGTV wanted which was lower the tracking or increase the time in between them.
Hey, at least I am not a Derperine defender.
Who is the REAL REASON why Morridoom is still dominant.
Also Jwong doesn't take Marvel seriously. He gets as far as he does on natural talent.
And why he loses to Chris G. Chris G is just as good as Jwong but practices.
EDIT: Also, Dahbomb there will always be more Logans than Vergils and Zeroes due to Vergil's optimized combos and Zero's actually require finesse. And really, Hulk/Haggar blow up everyone at the beginning of the match. And did you just say Logan is more risk than Soul fist? You do realize one wrong input and you can die? Have you even tried the Soul Fist fly/unfly?
Hey, at least I am not a Derperine defender.
Who is the REAL REASON why Morridoom is still dominant.
Also Jwong doesn't take Marvel seriously. He gets as far as he does on natural talent.
And why he loses to Chris G. Chris G is just as good as Jwong but practices.
EDIT: Also, Dahbomb there will always be more Logans than Vergils and Zeroes due to Vergil's optimized combos and Zero's actually require finesse. And really, Hulk/Haggar blow up everyone at the beginning of the match. And did you just say Logan is more risk than Soul fist? You do realize one wrong input and you can die? Have you even tried the Soul Fist fly/unfly?
SloaneRisette
Member
I definitely plan on playing the beta a lot more after Evo, that's for sure.
Of course, there's plenty of other games I plan on playing after Evo, too.
Professor Beef
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QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
SkullGirls is a better marvel game than marvel
Because it has some of GG's feel to the gameplay
Doom Missiles encourages and supports stupid play. The dependence it creates can be silly, and it completely removes inherent risk in moves that should be risky.
The removal, or severe altering, of Doom missiles would inherently make Marvel 3 a better game.
ChrisG has phenomenal fundamentals. Anyone who argues otherwise is an idiot. It's even easier to see in his Wesker team play. Justin is probably better (and certainly when it comes to not cracking in clutch situations), but Justin's team is simply ass for the top level player that he is. On paper, Justin's team really shouldn't be strong enough to beat a lot of teams.
The removal, or severe altering, of Doom missiles would inherently make Marvel 3 a better game.
ChrisG has phenomenal fundamentals. Anyone who argues otherwise is an idiot. It's even easier to see in his Wesker team play. Justin is probably better (and certainly when it comes to not cracking in clutch situations), but Justin's team is simply ass for the top level player that he is. On paper, Justin's team really shouldn't be strong enough to beat a lot of teams.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Honestly I would remove that or any Low/Overhead assist from the game and go from there.
crimsonspider89
Banned
I do agree it needs nerfing but if it gets too hard nerfed a large portion of zoning gameplay will become weak.
I just don't want it to go out due to the fact it allows several zoning gameplay to cover holes in there zoning.
Unless you want Dorm to be able to launch demons to cover the hole as a cancellation or Hawkeye to have pym arrows that allow him to cover the screen due to the speed, and teleports. Without it, too many zoners would become weak and it would become a rushdown fest.
I prefer to see variety in gameplay than just rushdown.
I mean, I think several grapplers still need buffs to inspire the fear.
And I think Phoenix needs a buff since Dark Phoenix brought in an unique gameplay style that is presently absent.
More variety in gameplay styles tend to lend to more practicing and more tech emerging.
I just don't want it to go out due to the fact it allows several zoning gameplay to cover holes in there zoning.
Unless you want Dorm to be able to launch demons to cover the hole as a cancellation or Hawkeye to have pym arrows that allow him to cover the screen due to the speed, and teleports. Without it, too many zoners would become weak and it would become a rushdown fest.
I prefer to see variety in gameplay than just rushdown.
I mean, I think several grapplers still need buffs to inspire the fear.
And I think Phoenix needs a buff since Dark Phoenix brought in an unique gameplay style that is presently absent.
More variety in gameplay styles tend to lend to more practicing and more tech emerging.
My unblockables.
No, but seriously. I would gladly take that trade.
Filling in gaps of zoners? Fine. I don't buy that once Hidden Missiles is removed that the game's zoning is now completely unplayable. The problem with Doom is that his Missile assist has TOO MUCH UTILITY. Combo breaker, double OTG, pressure string, zoning tool, anti-air, neutral assist. It doesn't just help zoners, it literally can complement any team.
I'd like to see far more changes to the bottom tier before Phoenix gets any sort of buff. I'm still not a fan of her mechanic.
Professor Beef
Banned
or you could stop being lazy and learn to protect your assist/make smart assist calls
just a suggestion
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Whenever I get happy birthday'd it's random
like the game randomly hit the assist button for me wtf
like the game randomly hit the assist button for me wtf
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One of the GOATs. The sense of speed, the chaining system, the music, the character design and the stages. It is 90s heavy metal animu. You can't hate that. It helps that it is pretty fucking balanced and built to last. Fighting games aren't this robust nowadays.
Mahvel will never die. People would walk into a room infected with EVOLA virus for Mahvel before they sit down for a game of SG lol.
SG will be fine, though. They've got a fanatic fanbase.
I burst into laughter just by looking at the picture. This scene was great haha.
"Willie hears ya. Willie don't care."
And bingo was his name-o.
I am not even a Derperine defender, he can use some "normalization" too.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Huh? I wasn't referring to assist calling. I was referring to every zoner outside of Joe/Morrigan having openings in there projectiles which can be easily exploited without assists and allow for rushers to easily navigate and open you up. This isn't SF where using AA normals and projectiles can stop rushers due to the variable jump heights, and movement options.
I said nothing about assist calls.
I said nothing about assist calls.
Is it for the PS3? I had trouble using mine until I used a 360 controller emulator
It's one of the newer 360 Fightpads. The first SF4 Fightpads were completely compatible with PCs, but then something happened with the SSF4 Fightpads where they weren't recognized anymore.
True and I'm fine with that for marvel, though these days I always feel like I'm getting on the verge of being sick of watching it (not even 5% done with playing it, on the other hand.) Then something hype happens and I'm right back in there.
It'll be cool if SG gets a competitive revival. Too bad they can't just churn out 4 characters quickly and release them all at once. I think more characters would give it a good shot in the arm.
And those zoners can use Jam Session, Lariat, Drones and/or Vajra to cover their weak spots. Honestly speaking any zoner who NEEDS Hidden Missiles isn't that great to begin with... because rushdown characters are going to get in on that easily enough. Hidden Missiles does not negate Wolverine and Vergil play, they can get in on Missiles teams the problem is Hidden Missiles is overall just a dumb assist with a combo breaker property and overall too much utility. It absolutely crushes the neutral game and you have dumb stuff like Mag + Missiles, MorriDoom, Dorm + Missiles, Zero + Missiles and Vergil + Missiles non stop lock down. I am kind of surprised no one has put Viewtiful Joe plus Doom together yet.
Professor Beef
Banned
You claimed that zoning would die if Missiles were gone. Nobody wants them gone, just nerfed. You then said before in a previous post that Missiles "allow zoning." They alone don't allow zoning. Missiles getting removed if Doom gets hit wouldn't make Missiles die as an assist. It means people would have to learn to make smarter calls.
If we used your logic, nobody would ever use Sentinel Force as an assist. Oh wait...
yeah, it just derpifies everything: zoning, rushdown, neutral game. it's even good on incoming.
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
Dieminion... who uses a fully zoning team with an unoptimized Joe/Morrigan team gets job done without using Missiles. He completely zones out his opponent at times. DiosX zones out people with on point Doom and Drones. All Zero players zone with Jam Session, Flocker does it with Vajra or Hawkeye shots. Sexybeast uses on point Deadpool with Plasma Beam Doom, does very well in the zoning game.
Zoning exists without Missiles and is viable, Missiles just makes it absurd. Characters who need Missiles to be "viable" like let's say Arthur aren't good to begin with. A mid tier zoner like let's say Chris would much rather have Jam Session or Vajra than Missiles, he gets the job done without that assist. Hawkeye doesn't need Missiles, his problem is up close he needs Lariat and Rapid Slash. The characters who make the most out of Missiles are the ones who are running the game... unsurprisingly.
Zoning exists without Missiles and is viable, Missiles just makes it absurd. Characters who need Missiles to be "viable" like let's say Arthur aren't good to begin with. A mid tier zoner like let's say Chris would much rather have Jam Session or Vajra than Missiles, he gets the job done without that assist. Hawkeye doesn't need Missiles, his problem is up close he needs Lariat and Rapid Slash. The characters who make the most out of Missiles are the ones who are running the game... unsurprisingly.
Professor Beef
Banned
Give him a dash and buff his Shield and that's all I would need.
scytheavatar
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https://twitter.com/JWonggg/status/352892591987101699
XFD have you guys seen J Wong complaining about Japanese players in his UMvC3 pools and Mr Wizard's reply?
XFD have you guys seen J Wong complaining about Japanese players in his UMvC3 pools and Mr Wizard's reply?
SloaneRisette
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Wizard da gawd
crimsonspider89
Banned
I forgot. How many zoners use Sentinel Force again? If I recall correctly that is more of a tool for those with unsafe blockstrings.
Also when did HM fire horizontally again? Hmmmm.....
Wait, so every zoner has a massive mix up and full TOD combo off a Hard knockdown? Didn't know that.
Also, Hawkeye without HM has a huge gap that is easily exploited and, he is one of the better zoners.
I mean, Task is the only zoner who actually gets a lot out of Sentinel Force.
And Strider fits more on a rushdown team. His DHC synergy with Zoners is lacking.
I mean, I guess every zoning team could just replace HM with Jam Session...
I mean it won't be like every other team won't be running it anyway...
TLDR: Sentinel Force is used more on unsafe blockstrings, has horizontal coverage so yeah. Strider really doesn't synergize well with zoning teams. Using Haggar means knowing if your first two die, you lose.
Just sounds really stupid. Oh well. Guess we could all play Jam session vs Jam Session 3....
EDIT: Look he posted VJoe who I said was an exception, Flocker who runs point Zero as an example(REALLY?), and the rest don't make an impact.
Well, I guess you can include Deadpool with Morrigan/Vjoe.
Also when did HM fire horizontally again? Hmmmm.....
Wait, so every zoner has a massive mix up and full TOD combo off a Hard knockdown? Didn't know that.
Also, Hawkeye without HM has a huge gap that is easily exploited and, he is one of the better zoners.
I mean, Task is the only zoner who actually gets a lot out of Sentinel Force.
And Strider fits more on a rushdown team. His DHC synergy with Zoners is lacking.
I mean, I guess every zoning team could just replace HM with Jam Session...
I mean it won't be like every other team won't be running it anyway...
TLDR: Sentinel Force is used more on unsafe blockstrings, has horizontal coverage so yeah. Strider really doesn't synergize well with zoning teams. Using Haggar means knowing if your first two die, you lose.
Just sounds really stupid. Oh well. Guess we could all play Jam session vs Jam Session 3....
EDIT: Look he posted VJoe who I said was an exception, Flocker who runs point Zero as an example(REALLY?), and the rest don't make an impact.
Well, I guess you can include Deadpool with Morrigan/Vjoe.
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Abegen got EVO on lock.