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[ZeroAKA]

This probably has been asked to death already, but I should be fine starting VLR now without playing 999 first, right? I plan on getting 999 when the iOS version is released.

Edit: Super late top-of-the-page recommendation, sue me. Buy Soul Sacrifice and get all of the free DLCs.

 

[magawolaz]

Anyone else using LiveTweet on Vita? My "Conversation" button is broken, it's not showing conversations from tweets.
Who should I contact? Been asking for a month @yosp and @shahid but they haven't replied back :/

 

[weevles]

A bit OT, but ouch: http://news.yahoo.com/ps-vita-now-crushing-nintendo-wii-u-210519219.html

 

[NinjamicWZ]

Anyone else using LiveTweet on Vita? My "Conversation" button is broken, it's not showing conversations from tweets.
Who should I contact? Been asking for a month @yosp and @shahid but they haven't replied back :/

It's been like that for a month at least. It's annoying. I think I threw @twitter and @playstation into my complaint tweet, but you know we're drops in the pond, and since it's niche freeware they couldn't give a fuck.

We'd need basically every vitabro to want to care on our behalf, even if they don't use the twitter app on Vita, to start hastagging it up with all 4 of those names in the tweets, on a routine basis to even get noticed.

 

[antibolo]

It's so strange to have seen "indie" become essentially a bad word in the Vita community. I know it's not for all of us, but it's just odd to see indies so hated on with regards to Vita. I've never seen this before. I've either seen "I don't care about this" or "I love this" but never just vitrol regarding it.

Indies on the Vita have become the symbol of how much Sony doesn't give a shit about elevating the Vita beyond its current status as the running joke of the industry.

 

[AmanoBuff]

That headline...

http://news.yahoo.com/ps-vita-now-crushing-nintendo-wii-u-210519219.html

Can't say I go on Yahoo! For news, but came across it.
It says the PS Vita sold 34,000+ last week in Japan. Not bad at all!

This applies to the sales thread. Every Wednesday, sales numbers for Japan are released and discussed on those threads (a new one every week). If you are into consoles' and games' sales you will like the threads. A lot of silly comments here and there but there is also a lot of people with huge knowledge about the way the industry performs that comments there.

 

[corrosivefrost]

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I like the cut of your jib, ser.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

A bit OT, but ouch: http://news.yahoo.com/ps-vita-now-crushing-nintendo-wii-u-210519219.html

Just the publication of that info will have people out for blood until Mario 3D World releases right before the holidays. Batten down the hatches and keep your heads down.

 

[Jamix012]

Hoping that Aksys' announcement tomorrow is the localisation for DR on the Vita in the west. Would be very happy if it was!

 

[ionca]

Thanks. Also, is Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare any good? Is it playable on Vita?

if you call yourself a horror game fan, buy it

afaik playable on the vita

 

[NinjamicWZ]

Indies on the Vita have become the symbol of how much Sony doesn't give a shit about elevating the Vita beyond its current status as the running joke of the industry.

Only because the same people who've been dancing on 2D's grave since about 1995 are still running amok in the industry as a vast majority, and pure, unadulterated creative gaming that's been resurrecting what 80's and early 90's gamers love to death, is just widely thrown into a trash bin and seen as disposable like some kind of weird race war.

Kill it with fire, am I right?

Watch TotalBiscuit's "first impression" of RetroCityRampage on youtube and get a sense of the loathing and aversion to all things not bleeding edge... and a total lack of nostalgic warmth towards the movement.

 

[ReaperXL7]

Indies on the Vita have become the symbol of how much Sony doesn't give a shit about elevating the Vita beyond its current status as the running joke of the industry.

Funny, I thought the WiiU was the running Joke of the industry.

 

[AmanoBuff]

This probably has been asked to death already, but I should be fine starting VLR now without playing 999 first, right? I plan on getting 999 when the iOS version is released.

Try to play 999. I'm trying to get a used copy from wherever to play it first before digging into VLR.

And also, AVOID the iOS version. Almost all gameplay has been cut from it.

http://www.destructoid.com/999-on-ios-lacks-any-actual-gameplay-254765.phtml

 

[antibolo]

Hoping that Aksys' announcement tomorrow is the localisation for DR on the Vita in the west. Would be very happy if it was!

What is "DR" again? I'm drawing a blank here.

 

[AmanoBuff]

Funny, I thought the WiiU was the running Joke of the industry.

Pretty much, yup.

 

[Jamix012]

What is "DR" again? I'm drawing a blank here.

Dangan Ronpa, it's a pair of visual novel PSP games being remade for the Vita that just got an anime. The originals were never released in the west but amassed a sizable fandom in places like Tumblr.

 

[Dorimukyasuto]

I like the cut of your jib, ser.

Thank you, thank you.

 

[ZeroAKA]

That headline...

http://news.yahoo.com/ps-vita-now-crushing-nintendo-wii-u-210519219.html

Can't say I go on Yahoo! For news, but came across it.
It says the PS Vita sold 34,000+ last week in Japan. Not bad at all!

A bit OT, but ouch: http://news.yahoo.com/ps-vita-now-crushing-nintendo-wii-u-210519219.html

Lmao.

Try to play 999. I'm trying to get a used copy from wherever to play it first before digging into VLR.

And also, AVOID the iOS version. Almost all gameplay has been cut from it.

http://www.destructoid.com/999-on-ios-lacks-any-actual-gameplay-254765.phtml

The puzzles are actually the least appealing part of the game for me, so no "gameplay" is perfectly fine.

 

[AmanoBuff]

if you call yourself a horror game fan, buy it

afaik playable on the vita

Well thanks!

Ok, I've narrowed my choices to these:

- Grandia
- Threads of Faith
- Suikoden
- Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare

I will get all eventually, but I think I'll start with Grandia, then AiTD and then the other two.

If anyone wants to sell me on any other game (under $7), I won't buy until a couple of hours from now. So there's your chance!

 

[antibolo]

Funny, I thought the WiiU was the running Joke of the industry.

The Wii U is the 3DS all over again, it'll start selling once enough of the big Nintendo franchises start pouring in.

The Vita has no such lifeline.

 

[jengo]

Anyone else want to help me politely nudge/make aware to @yosp, shahid, and Kojima that the fox engine would look great on the Vita? Politely please.

Konami didn't think PES was worth the Vita treatment this year, at the premier of the new engine (fox). So I'd say it'll be fall 2014 until anything fox engine caliber meanders onto the Vita.

Speaking of PES, is the PSP version made in fox engine? That'd be pretty crazy if it scaled like that.

 

[antibolo]

A bit OT, but ouch: http://news.yahoo.com/ps-vita-now-crushing-nintendo-wii-u-210519219.html

...in Japan.

I bet the Wii U still outsells the Vita 10 to 1 elsewhere.

 

[ReaperXL7]

The Wii U is the 3DS all over again, it'll start selling once enough of the big Nintendo franchises start pouring in.

The Vita has no such lifeline.

I doubt that until I see otherwise, third parties are not interested in supporting the WiiU either, and I dont see the WiiU becoming successful in the wake of the PS4, and Xbone. Nintendo is supporting the 3DS at the expense of its console. Sony is supporting its console at the expense of its handheld.

I dont see anything that would be considered a system seller thats announced for Wii U currently outside of maybe Mario Cart. Its not getting Battlefield, Call of Duty, or any real major support from any of the big publishers.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

I doubt that until I see otherwise, third parties are not interested in supporting the WiiU either, and I dont see the WiiU becoming successful in the wake of the PS4, and Xbone. Nintendo is supporting the 3DS at the expense of its console. Sony is supporting its console at the expense of its handheld.

I dont see anything that would be considered a system seller thats announced for Wii U currently outside of maybe Mario Cart. Its not getting Battlefield, Call of Duty, or any real major support from any of the big publishers.

I think if xbone and PS4 were releasing after the holiday shopping season in Jan and Feb etc, and not right during the 3rd and 4th quarter, then it would be like a Vita launch situation being 3 months late to the fight with an epic new Mario game. As it stands, it'll be an upswing, but I doubt it'll be the "holy shit, this thing just hit the nitro" situation again, like it was for 3DS.

 

[corrosivefrost]

The Wii U is the 3DS all over again, it'll start selling once enough of the big Nintendo franchises start pouring in.

The Vita has no such lifeline.

It was the massive price cut within the first year followed by the redesign the combination of nintendo franchises and other exclusive games such as Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem and the like. It wasn't just the "big nintendo franchises" alone that did it. Plus the only competition for the 3DS besides the Vita is the DS/PSP which are last gen at this point... the Wii U has to compete with the PS4 and Xbone lol).

 

[VanWinkle]

...in Japan.

I bet the Wii U still outsells the Vita 10 to 1 elsewhere.

Lol no, even in console-centric NA it probably only outsells the Vita by two to one, MAYBE three to one.

 

[breakfuss]

Not to inject more fuel into the indie/aaa debate, but i think what's most important is how Sony positioned the vita. It was meant to be a portable device with console-like experiences. Indie games don't foot that bill, so naturally they're the target of people's ire. I'm not suggesting that's fair, but let's not act surprised at the initial backlash. Now that Sony appears to be shifting message, there's less room for the argument.

 

[VanWinkle]

Not to inject more fuel into the indie/aaa debate, but i think what's most important is how Sony positioned the vita. It was meant to be a portable device with console-like experiences. Indie games don't foot that bill, so naturally they're the target of people's ire. I'm not suggesting that's fair, but let's not act surprised at the initial backlash. Now that Sony appears to be shifting message, there's less room for the argument.

But the anger should be at that lack of AAA games, not at the proliferation of indie titles. Why would someone get mad when another indie game is announced? And yet, it happens all the time.

 

[Jamix012]

It was the massive price cut within the first year followed by the redesign the combination of nintendo franchises and other exclusive games such as Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem and the like. It wasn't just the "big nintendo franchises" alone that did it. Plus the only competition for the 3DS besides the Vita is the DS/PSP which are last gen at this point... the Wii U has to compete with the PS4 and Xbone lol).

MonHun has a small part to play in the revival, true, but everything else was first Party and MonHun's effect outside Japan is close to 0 anyway. The price cut would be repeated on the Wii U.
...It still amazes me that people think Fire Emblem is a third party franchise. It was created and owned by Nintendo on the Famicom, I think by this point it's pretty damn first party. The 3DS has plenty of other competition: you forget the huge smartphone market eating up the handhelds and the reason the Vita is in the situation it's in. I'm not saying the WIi U will be fine: Personally I feel it'll be somewhere about the gamecube maybe closing in on the N64, but none of the reasons you listed are a good counterpoint to why the Wii U will not succeed.

 

[ReaperXL7]

But the anger should be at that lack of AAA games, not at the proliferation of indie titles. Why would someone get mad when another indie game is announced? And yet, it happens all the time.

It will be interesting to see if indies get the same treatment from some of these people on PS4(though the PS4 wont lack the bigger games) since its obviously a huge push by Sony as a whole. I suspect we will see a ton of indies on PS4, and due to more unique titles coming from Indies, and better pricing I will be curious to see how they do overall.

Im honestly not sure how anyone expects the "AAA" third party pubs to justify multi million dollar projects on Vita, when those same publishers are not happy with the sales performance on consoles with much larger install bases. I understand people feeling they were cheated some in Sonys chance in direction with the Vita, but I also have the feeling it was more out of the realization that its just not a sustainable strategy for a handheld to focus solely on projects with console level budgets.

 

[DigitalOp]

The way I see it, Overall the Wii U and Vita will be fine for the most part. But let me tell you now, Its going to be a SLOW and GRUELING lifespan. Almost snails pace unless something hits the fan and things pick up quick (ie: Vita picks up numbers in US and starts getting regular software, Wii U starts getting more tailor-made exclusives outside of 1st party)

I cant help but think that at the end of both of these systems, we're gonna look at them and say "Wow, it actually was pretty great but damn.. it could've been so much more!"

*shakes fist*

 

[wilflare]

hmm any recommendations on what I should buy? :X

 

[ReaperXL7]

The way I see it, Overall the Wii U and Vita will be fine for the most part. But let me tell you now, Its going to be a SLOW and GRUELING lifespan. Almost snails pace unless something hits the fan and things pick up quick (ie: Vita picks up numbers in US and starts getting regular software, Wii U starts getting more tailor-made exclusives outside of 1st party)

I cant help but think that at the end of both of these systems, we're gonna look at them and say "Wow, it actually was pretty great but damn.. it could've been so much more!"

*shakes fist*

I guess I would be able to see the issue more if I planned on going handheld only, but that was never going to be a route I would take. Between the PS4 for larger games, MMO's, PS4 only indie games (not on vita), and then Vita native Indies, PSM games, and the occasional larger exlusive, or multiplat I would rather have on Vita, combined with remote play I just dont think Ill have any issues.

Im in the minority currently though, because after my first Vita was stolen I only repurchased one because of the indie game support.

 

[corrosivefrost]

MonHun has a small part to play in the revival, true, but everything else was first Party and MonHun's effect outside Japan is close to 0 anyway. The price cut would be repeated on the Wii U.
...It still amazes me that people think Fire Emblem is a third party franchise. It was created and owned by Nintendo on the Famicom, I think by this point it's pretty damn first party. The 3DS has plenty of other competition: you forget the huge smartphone market eating up the handhelds and the reason the Vita is in the situation it's in. I'm not saying the WIi U will be fine: Personally I feel it'll be somewhere about the gamecube maybe closing in on the N64, but none of the reasons you listed are a good counterpoint to why the Wii U will not succeed.

My point was solely that it was not just the release of several "big" first party games that fixed the 3DS -- it was the combination of, as I pointed out earlier in the "system seller" argument that it was no longer a single game that would move systems like the days of old, but rather a LIBRARY, which is exactly what happened with the 3DS -- the thing got a massive price drop and then it's software library exploded. It wasn't just "oh hey, look, there's a mario kart and a mario and a zelda and a donkey kong, now it's selling gangbusters."

And don't even get me started on the smartphone gaming argument. As far as I'm concerned the people who would actually consider gaming on an iOS or Android device instead of a 3DS or Vita are the people who never bought a console before and suddenly owned a Wii (which probably collected dust and got brought out once or twice a year at family get togethers for some Wii Bowling).

But none of this really belongs in this thread, so forget I said anything.
Moving on...

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I started watching a Let's Play of Muramasa Rebirth and I'm starting to think I can suffer the translation as it's only Kongiku (?) whose translation bothers me after watching the first couple of chapters. The gameplay and graphics and the fact that Aksys actually brought it to Vita seem like it's probably worth the jump in price. Shit. I was really hoping to stick to my guns on this one, but with another $20 PSN card coming in the mail, I could probably justify it. Even with getting SH:BoM next week, by the time I go to pick up Muramasa on my Vita (before year's end, most likely, I think it will still be $35).

Arrrg, next thing you know, I'll be caving on Velocity Ultra too.
Agent, did you cave?

 

[omg_mjd]

I guess I would be able to see the issue more if I planned on going handheld only, but that was never going to be a route I would take. Between the PS4 for larger games, MMO's, PS4 only indie games (not on vita), and then Vita native Indies, PSM games, and the occasional larger exlusive, or multiplat I would rather have on Vita, combined with remote play I just dont think Ill have any issues.

Im in the minority currently though, because after my first Vita was stolen I only repurchased one because of the indie game support.

Yup. In my case the PC fills in most of the gaps. I'm still tempted to get a PS3 just to play P4 Arena and Catherine but for the most part Steam has the rest of my gaming needs covered. The Vita complements this by letting me play games that will probably never go on the PC like P4G, DOA5+, Soul Sac. and the Atelier series.

Aside from that, I've skipped on all the PC versions of indie games coming out for Vita since I value portability. Plus, after a long day of working in front of my computer it feels great to switch to the Vita for a game or two instead of staring at the same laptop screen again for a few more hours even if it was to play a game I enjoy.

 

[Noi]

Greetings from Canada!

Took out a huge chunk of Velocity Ultra while on the plane, those extra missions are pretty damn rough! I like the game a lot though, I can see myself trying to get the plat for it.

Was going to start Hotline Miami, but I got the prompt for enabling cloud sync on a first boot up or forgoing it entirely, so I have to pass until I have wifi access, bah.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

Plus, after a long day of working in front of my computer it feels great to switch to the Vita for a game or two instead of staring at the same laptop screen again for a few more hours even if it was to play a game I enjoy.

Yep. When I'm sick to death of my laptop, it's off to lay back and get comfy with the Vita.

Totally with you here. I'd rather play ANYTHING I own or want on my Vita, whenever possible.

 

[Metalmarc]

If nothing major for vita announced at gamescom is anyone seriously trading their vita in towards money off a PS4?

Not me im keeping mine, toukiden looks interesting, even though i don't normally go for that type of game


Also has anyone heard this?

"I was going to buy a vita but now im saving cash towards a ps4, why not get both? I can only afford one or he other so it's a ps4 now for me?"

 

[marrec]

If nothing major for vita announced at gamescom is anyone seriously trading their vita in towards money off a PS4?

Not me im keeping mine, toukiden looks interesting, even though i don't normally go for that type of game


Also has anyone heard this?

"I was going to buy a vita but now im saving cash towards a ps4, why not get both? I can only afford one or he other so it's a ps4 now for me?"

Nope, there's been enough games released and enough announced that I am good for a good few years playing on this handheld.

 

[outunderthestars]

If nothing major for vita announced at gamescom is anyone seriously trading their vita in towards money off a PS4?

Not me im keeping mine, toukiden looks interesting, even though i don't normally go for that type of game


Also has anyone heard this?

"I was going to buy a vita but now im saving cash towards a ps4, why not get both? I can only afford one or he other so it's a ps4 now for me?"

No way in hell I am trading in my Vita. I love handheld gaming too much to let it go. Hell, I am considering skipping the next gen for a year or two and picking up a Shield handheld as a portable emulation machine.

 

[Agent White]

hmm any recommendations on what I should buy? :X

my twitter feed wasn't the same without you. buy hotline miami.

Arrrg, next thing you know, I'll be caving on Velocity Ultra too.
Agent, did you cave?

i can wait. i gave the demo a shot when it hit the store but it's just not something i feel like playing right now. i figure if i'm not buying now i may as well wait for price drop/ps+. ido feel like buying something even though i probably shouldn't be spending money.

 

[wilflare]

my twitter feed wasn't the same without you. buy hotline miami.

I was away for one week of army training.
and my whole body is aching really badly now :O

 

[outunderthestars]

I was away for one week of army training.
and my whole body is aching really badly now :O

Glad you are back and resting! I second Hotline Miami.

 

[Agent White]

I was away for one week of army training.
and my whole body is aching really badly now :O

glad to have you back

 

[corrosivefrost]

my twitter feed wasn't the same without you. buy hotline miami.

i can wait. i gave the demo a shot when it hit the store but it's just not something i feel like playing right now. i figure if i'm not buying now i may as well wait for price drop/ps+. ido feel like buying something even though i probably shouldn't be spending money.

(1) Buy Muramasa? I'm seriously about to cave.
(2) Buy SH:BoM next week, we can co-op!

 

[jon bones]

muramasa is beautiful to look at, but pretty boring to play

 

[Agent White]

(1) Buy Muramasa? I'm seriously about to cave.
(2) Buy SH:BoM next week, we can co-op!

(3) Buy nothing!

 

[wilflare]

glad to have you back

thankss i miss my Vitabros man.

and the summer sale is shaping up pretty nicely... for once, i'm tempted to buy some games I thought I'll never buy.

 

[ReaperXL7]

If nothing major for vita announced at gamescom is anyone seriously trading their vita in towards money off a PS4?

Not me im keeping mine, toukiden looks interesting, even though i don't normally go for that type of game


Also has anyone heard this?

"I was going to buy a vita but now im saving cash towards a ps4, why not get both? I can only afford one or he other so it's a ps4 now for me?"

Not personally , im looking forward to seeing what other indie games Sony can snag for Vita since I would love to play stuff like teleglitch, Bastion, Darkwood, etc on the machine, and Japanese support seems to be staying.pretty steady right now. Just give me better memory cards, some more first party support like KZ, and Tareaway, and remote play, and I dont see a reason to let go of it.

Most of the people I know who game that are buying Vitas are doing so mainly for remote play, and the ones who are not dont care about handhelds.

 

[corrosivefrost]

muramasa is beautiful to look at, but pretty boring to play

Doesn't look boring. There's lots of upgrades, level up mechanics, and at least a little skill/depth required to be good at the combat. I've heard it plays like the Dishwasher games. Those are fantastic, so, to each their own.

My only problem was with some of the new translation.