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[GamerSoul]

Same here. From what I see, most of Samus and Link's moves are remained to be same. I hope that they would adjust the hitbox or damage to make them better.

Ganondorf is in need of getting revamped but please just let him to keep his chokeslam.

Good idea, id be ok with buffing up their attacks also if they're moves stay relatively the same. They better do something to those poor guys or they won't be able to keep up with the Villager and Megaman. Lol

Hah, the suicide chokeslam is a thing legends. My cousin use to kick my butt with old man ganon with those types of shenanigans. Since they're probably re evaluating the veterans, Ganondorf is in dire need of some type of change, imo compared to any character who began as a clone.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Actually, I really hope that Sonic would come back for SSB4 so he can get better introduction in the game. I felt that his introduction video was not that great as Snake and Mega Man due to last minutes addition. I would expect Sonic's better introduction would be something like this.

I've been thinking about that. My guess is that the new animation is for when you use it on the ground. Perhaps it is the same as Brawl when in the air. A new up B would be cool though.

You know what else is likely to change? The Great Sacred Treasure becoming his new Final Smash. Please do it, Sakurai!

I really hope that new animation might cause some kind of new tech where we can utilizing the air attack better, like Project Melee's Side B. I would definitely agreed with you for Pit's new final smash. Palutena need her Centurions back if she's playable character.

Good idea, id be ok with buffing up their attacks also if they're moves stay relatively the same. They better do something to those poor guys or they won't be able to keep up with the Villager and Megaman. Lol

Hah, the suicide chokeslam is a thing legends. My cousin use to kick my butt with old man ganon with those types of shenanigans. Since they're probably re evaluating the veterans, Ganondorf is in dire need of some type of change, imo compared to any character who began as a clone.

Suicide Chokeslam is one of my favorite thing to do in Brawl, and I always play as ganondorf with old man alt.

Since we are on topic of secret and starter characters so I would predict that we have 32 starter characters and 18 secret characters However the characters is from my opinion so I'm sure that Sakurai's roster would be different.

* - Secret

Mario
Princess Peach
Bowser
Luigi*

Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K Rool*

Yoshi
Wario

Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf*

Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Ridley*

Pit
Palutena*
Medusa/Dark Pit*

Ice Climbers
Mr. Game and Watch
R.O.B*
Takamaru*
Laughing Dog*
Mike Jones*

Kirby
Metaknight
King Dedede

Fox
Wolf*

Captain Falcon
Olimar

Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo/Newtwo*

Marth
Ike
Roy/Chrom*

Ness
Lucas

Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Isaac
Mii
Shulk*
Wonder-Red

Mega Man*
Pac-Man*
Snake*
Sonic*

 

[Red Rudolph]

Villager's final smash is most assuredly "Bee Swarm"

Much like Pit's final smash, it sends out swarms of bees to fly around and knock out other fighters. When they respawn, one of their eyes is swollen shut.

Seems legit. If not that, then maybe sometimes you get a surprise bee swarm when you chop down your tree, no?

 

[Frolow]

The two new Uprising moves are awesome. Seems like the Upperdash Arm replaced his side B and the Guardians Orbiters replaced his down B. I disliked both moves so I'm happy with this apparent change.

What was Pit's old Side B?

 

[ffdgh]

What was Pit's old Side B?

Hiyayayaya!

Seriously tho, angle ring. That spinning blade attack.

 

[Choppasmith]

What was Pit's old Side B?

He dashed and twirled his bow. It's a melee dash attack in Uprising, so it's probably been converted to a normal attack.

 

[Frolow]

Hiyayayaya!

Seriously tho, angle ring. That spinning blade attack.

Ah, makes sense as to why they replaced it. I don't think they even once used it in Uprising.

 

[GamerSoul]

Seems legit. If not that, then maybe sometimes you get a surprise bee swarm when you chop down your tree, no?

I still don't exactly how that tree special works. So the Villager can pull out sappling in a pot, some how plant it and water it, then it grows and u can chop it down? Lol Sakurai went full crazy on Villager.

 

[Vermillion]

Actually, I really hope that Sonic would come back for SSB4 so he can get better introduction in the game. I felt that his introduction video was not that great as Snake and Mega Man due to last minutes addition. I would expect Sonic's better introduction would be something like this.

Whaaaaaattttt? Sonic's introduction was pure hype, my friend.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Whaaaaaattttt? Sonic's introduction was pure hype, my friend.

Sonic's introduction was pure hype because Sonic being in Brawl was pure hype, not because his introduction video was particularly good.

 

[Red Rudolph]

I still don't exactly how that tree special works. So the Villager can pull out sappling in a pot, some how plant it and water it, then it grows and u can chop it down? Lol Sakurai went full crazy on Villager.

Haha, he sure did. Yeah, I don't think anyone has a real, firm grasp on how the tree and its stages are supposed to work. I know there's been speculation somewhere within this massive thread, but there's just not enough to go on yet to really know much of anything. Seems like a complex move at first sight, but here's betting it's not as complicated as it seems.

 

[Choppasmith]

Ah, makes sense as to why they replaced it. I don't think they even once used it in Uprising.

Nope it's there, it was Forward dash melee attack when you had a bow equipped.

 

[Polioliolio]

That design is just awful.. They really need to give him a neck of some kind.

This design is pretty slick.. I'm not sure why they keep doing the elongated head.. Make it look more like:

 

[IntelliHeath]

Whaaaaaattttt? Sonic's introduction was pure hype, my friend.

Sonic being in Brawl is PURE HYPE! Honestly, I really like his introduction trailer but Sonic didn't even get CGI trailer for his own induction.

Here is the trailers for comparison.

Sonic
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu...-the-brawl-trailer-hd_videogames#.Udr82z535Xc

Snake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y9ZDPrtbM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQJpP8M7XA

Mega Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy-yaQkDcSk

 

[ffdgh]

His reveal trailer used live and learn. That alone made it so amazing and that super sonic ending.

 

[Violet_0]

ohh, I see Neoriceisgood has started working on the Smash avatars!
Can I call dibs on Ridley?

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

It might actually be a downgrade, we haven't really seen the move in action yet. I certainly hope it's a downgrade and they start lowering the recovery abilities across the board. There is no reason why any character should be able to just fly like Pit and R.O.B. can.

On the topic of recoveries, I think auto ledge grab is the most detrimental change they added to Smash.. way more controversial than tripping.

Auto ledge grabs in Brawl pretty much kill the off-stage game with spikes etc., so coupling that with everyone's recoveries being much better and the ability to grab the ledge despite the direction the character is facing really hurts the game on a fundamental level IMO.

 

[IntelliHeath]

ntelliHeath: Laughing Dog, Isaac, Dark Pit or Takamaru
ffdgh: Peach
KMD: Little Mac
Crab: Marth
Alistair Roo: Luigi
Azure J: Mike Jones
Shadow Hog: Sonic
GiantEnemyGoomba: Shulk or X
PBAlfredo: Ness
Gleethor: Samus
Showmeyamoves: Captain Falcon
Red Arremer: Ridley's head
ScraftyDevil: Hades, Agent J, Scrafty
dryuriev7777: Palutena
Kouichi: Waluigi
Ezalc: Matthew, Ray 01 Legend/Mk II
BlakImpaler: Chrom, Lucina
Kurtofan: Wario (classic)
PorygonVandal: Luigi
Codeblue: Ike
Javier: Lucario
JStein022: Tom Nook
Icelandic_Jazz: Mr. Game & Watch
Drago: Lucas

Professor Beef: Kirby
Senator Soufflé: King Dedede, Chibi-Robo or Dillon
JBtheHunter - Pac-Man
NexusCell - Rosalina
MisterLuffy - Mario or Zero Suit Samus
Anth0ny - Sheik
AnkiRendan - Pokemon Trainer
Nocturnowl - Donkey Kong
BroBuzz - Ice Climbers
Diddy Kong - Diddy Kong, who else
Starphoenix - Waddle Dee
Poltergust - Yoshi
FUNKNOWN iXi - Master/Crazy Hand
NotLiquid - Wonderful 101

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Don't forget about my Master Hand/Crazy Hand ;]

 

[Red Arremer]

ohh, I see Neoriceisgood has started working on the Smash avatars!
Can I call dibs on Ridley?

No Sir, Ridley is MEIN.

 

[Violet_0]

No Sir, Ridley is MEIN.

as far as I can tell you only claimed the head. Fine, I'll just take the rest of the body
on a totally more serious note, I'd like to sign up for Tetra/Dixie/Godqueen Krystal then

 

[That Dude John]

Sonic being in Brawl is PURE HYPE! Honestly, I really like his introduction trailer but Sonic didn't even get CGI trailer for his own induction.

Here is the trailers for comparison.

Sonic
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu...-the-brawl-trailer-hd_videogames#.Udr82z535Xc

Snake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y9ZDPrtbM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQJpP8M7XA

Mega Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy-yaQkDcSk

Damn, I forgot how good that Sonic reveal was. But Megaman did get the CG treatment.

 

[JulianImp]

Are you all requesting the avatars in this thread or something? Am I still in time to make a request? I feel like I really missed out on this.

As far as completely unconfirmed characters go, I'd go for Isaac (Golden Sun). If that's too weird, I could settle on Wolf instead.

 

[Red Arremer]

as far as I can tell you only claimed the head. Fine, I'll just take the rest of the body
on a totally more serious note, I'd like to sign up for Tetra/Dixie/Godqueen Krystal then

No, I claimed Ridley, but neorice said I'd get as much as he could fit on an avatar.

 

[blitzwolf215]

I'm really excited for Pit's new move set, I even started using the upper dash arm in Uprising multiplayer.

 

[Senator Soufflé]

Are you all requesting the avatars in this thread or something? Am I still in time to make a request? I feel like I really missed out on this.

As far as completely unconfirmed characters go, I'd go for Isaac (Golden Sun). If that's too weird, I could settle on Wolf instead.

Yeah Neorice has said he plans on making sprites of announced characters and we're putting out dibs. Not that any of us are getting any soon at the rate Nintendo is going at the moment, but then again they haven't had a big Direct either.

Heath has dibbed Isaac, but as far as the list goes you're good for Wolf.

 

[Platy]

So sad that all points for this not happening in the game =(

http://www.dorkly.com/comic/52829/mega-man-joins-smash-bros

And I am not talking about Kirby sucking while having a copied power already, I want megaman to copy =/

 

[Red Rudolph]

No, I claimed Ridley, but neorice said I'd get as much as he could fit on an avatar.

Ridley's too big for an avatar. Sorry, man.

 

[demidar]

Ridley's too big for an avatar. Sorry, man.

Neorice could just include a single claw lol.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Well, NeoRice could make 5 parts of Ridley and split it to 5 users.

Head, Left hand, Left Leg, Right Hand, Right Leg

 

[demidar]

Well, NeoRice could make 5 parts of Ridley and split it to 5 users.

Head, Left hand, Left Leg, Right Hand, Right Leg

EXODIA! OBLITERATE!

 

[Red Rudolph]

Well, NeoRice could make 5 parts of Ridley and split it to 5 users.

Head, Left hand, Left Leg, Right Hand, Right Leg

Yeah, maybe Ridley will replace Dragoon in SSB4 as an item. Collect all his body parts, then target someone and come dashing forward at the screen a la Super Metroid. And he'd be so huge that you'd just kill everyone unless they were air dodging. Perfect, right?

 

[GamerSoul]

EXODIA! OBLITERATE!

I read that in ....Yugio's voice?

o_0 I haven't thought of that show in ages.

Haha, he sure did. Yeah, I don't think anyone has a real, firm grasp on how the tree and its stages are supposed to work. I know there's been speculation somewhere within this massive thread, but there's just not enough to go on yet to really know much of anything. Seems like a complex move at first sight, but here's betting it's not as complicated as it seems.

Yep I think it won't be as complicated but it seems like a lot of work to set up. lol. I guess it could work for edge gardening. :3

 

[IntelliHeath]

EXODIA! OBLITERATE!

Hahaha. I didn't think of that.

I read that in ....Yugio's voice?

o_0 I haven't thought of that show in ages.

Same here.

 

[Shadow Hog]

I read it in Little Kuriboh's voice, in all honesty

 

[Violet_0]

EXODIA! OBLITERATE!

wow, blast from the past

 

[ffdgh]

It funny to read that in his voice father all these years.

 

[DaBoss]

Well, NeoRice could make 5 parts of Ridley and split it to 5 users.

Head, Left hand, Left Leg, Right Hand, Right Leg

The wings. You can't forget the wings. Or the chestplate for that matter.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Animal Crossing stole all my spriting time away~

 

[IntelliHeath]

Animal Crossing stole all my spriting time away~

That's alright. We are not in hurry. I would love to see everyone to wear it during release week.

 

[Frolow]

Animal Crossing stole all my time away~

It does that to everyone.

 

[demidar]

It does that to everyone.

The only way to win is to not play.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Is there avatar requests? :3 If so I have a request for Sami, Kumatora or Medusa. C:

 

[Village]

Anyone has any baseless prediction when info gonna come out

 

[Violet_0]

Anyone has any baseless prediction when info gonna come out

July 26

 

[DaBoss]

Anyone has any baseless prediction when info gonna come out

Tomorrow.

 

[qq more]

Anyone has any baseless prediction when info gonna come out

those imperfect textures from Pit's attack...! IT MEANS SAKURAI IS SPENDING MORE TIME ON MAKING A CHARACTER REVEAL TOMMOROW

OMGG GIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Zonic]

Anyone has any baseless prediction when info gonna come out

Smarch 32nd.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Anyone has any baseless prediction when info gonna come out

Aug Direct

 

[qq more]

guys ever thought that no one but Pit is on the screen

why would he be fighting someone off screen?

omg it must mean hes fighting the upcoming announced character tommorow...!!!!!!!!!!!!

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