Nintendo of America not allowing SSBM to be streamed at EVO [Up: Decision Reversed]
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I would assume so. They probably know about EVO, but don't keep up with things like what games are going to be there or even when does it start. I seriously think they do not understand the implications of how they've screwed themselves over this decision.
well still this is small fry stuff compared to what Iwata himself would be dealing with. this would come from a smaller department, their marketing or legal team. doubt the higher ups have any idea and once they find out, this situation could easily change
Gotta stop those stream pirates man. I mean how dare they send Nintendo's property all over the world like that for free. There could be none paying customers watching that shit.
That sounds about right.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. Apparently it took a surprisingly long time before Capcom became aware of the tournament community surrounding Street Fighter, at least aware enough to officially back it. The main reason is because of Japan's strict gambling laws which wouldn't allow this much money to be involved for fighting game tourneys. A possibility is that Nintendo is acting from the same misconception.
Maybe not though, if it did indeed stream last year's Pokemon tourneys.
That's what I was thinking of. I knew it happened before.
Nikkuthulu
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Come on Nintendo. Throw me an hell of a good reason.
Is it because of IP?
Is it because they don't want to be associated with FGC?
Maybe it's something silly like it's cause of these custom rule sets the community made up?
Is it because of it being Melee vs Smash?
Come on Nintendo, I really, really want to hear this excuse right now, doubly so since they had the gall to announce it this soon rather then before everyone put their time, money and effort into this. This is really scummy.
I admit, I had no plans on watching it, but that's really not fair to these people or even remotely respectful. Of course people are defending this to, just mindblowing in so many ways.
Edit: Just noticed the post above me. This has happened before? I'm really wondering why this didn't get brought up then.
Is it because of IP?
Is it because they don't want to be associated with FGC?
Maybe it's something silly like it's cause of these custom rule sets the community made up?
Is it because of it being Melee vs Smash?
Come on Nintendo, I really, really want to hear this excuse right now, doubly so since they had the gall to announce it this soon rather then before everyone put their time, money and effort into this. This is really scummy.
I admit, I had no plans on watching it, but that's really not fair to these people or even remotely respectful. Of course people are defending this to, just mindblowing in so many ways.
Edit: Just noticed the post above me. This has happened before? I'm really wondering why this didn't get brought up then.
Iwata now, surely? Didn't he become the president of NoA recently?
freenudemacusers
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Well, it would be pretty impressive for a multi-national gaming company to have not caught wind that fans of their game donated $90k for breast cancer research to have their chance to play at one of the largest fighting game tournaments in the world. I mean, really impressive.
I think that pose right there is why he still has a job, and it is captured in time perfectly.
tbh that's not much worse than a lot of shit people post on gaf
jediyoshi
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I think Nintendo wouldn't want to be associated with the internet if they didn't have to be
KillerTravis
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There are people defending this on twitter, not only miiverse.
Nintendo's games are far from guaranteed success stories anymore. The ones that have that kind of power are the ones that maintain a consistently positive mindshare. Smash lost a lot of that power with Brawl. On top of the pathetic performance of the actual Wii U platform itself the last thing they need is to have another series risk losing that kind of momentum.
slightconfuse
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No reason given this close to Evo is the wordt worst part
SolarPowered
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Welcome to Nintendo Land.There are people defending this on Miiverse. There are people who are saying it's selfish to want to stream the matches.
I agree. Gotta get that ad revenue I guess. All this are doing is hurting their fans.
We don't have a universal account system on Nintendo products yet everything else under the sun does for years now, soooo...
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The Everyman
they dont want to be associated with passionate nintendo fans who donated $100,000 to breast cancer?
Smash community is chiming in. Prog is doing the talking. Show them your support.
http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/old
http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/old
There are people defending this on Miiverse. There are people who are saying it's selfish to want to stream the matches.
The real NintendoLand starts here.
This is what's wrong with extreme fanboys period. No different than those that agreed with XB1 always online policies. They all need their head checked.
Nintendo just can't seem to catch a break. They are doing it to themselves and are getting what they deserve.
Smushroomed
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I figure they don't want to be part of the toxic FGC
With the rape jokes and whatnot
With the rape jokes and whatnot
Solid Samus
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And that's fair but OVERWHELMING odds are the people who Nintendo is trying to protect Smash's image for, like children, the elderly, and everyone else they're advertising to these days probably aren't going to be exposed to EVO anyway...
I keed with the advertising quip but seriously, if their worried about Smash being associated with various FGC stigmas then that's just dumb. They're fucking over the community over something that will make little difference and little impact on how the vast majority of gamers view this IP.
There are people defending this on Miiverse. There are people who are saying it's selfish to want to stream the matches.
lol, delusional diehards will always shit out excuses to defend their company, it's nothing new.
freenudemacusers
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nintendo is shorting breast cancer research to fund development of the Wii U2.
HylianScribe
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I remember having somebody come to our college gaming club years ago during the XBOX/PS2/GCN era explaining the rules/regulations for running a tournament that involved cash. He warned us that a tournament for Smash is ill-advised because Nintendo had some form you had to fill out to use their games at public events like conventions, tournaments, or fund raisers. It had to be approved by Nintendo and then you were okay, but you had to disclose all the information about the event. We were told a big red flag was if prize money was involved. He said companies like Capcom (fighters), Microsoft (Halo), and most everyone else didn't care or had easy means to securing permission to use their games. Of course, this was like, 10 years ago. So who knows.
djplaeskool
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Dat fifth of Jack.
There are people defending this on Miiverse. There are people who are saying it's selfish to want to stream the matches.
there's like one dude saying this for every 50 people outraged. there's children on miiverse, obviously they don't understand the implications of this
Terareflection
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This isn't an exclusive occurrence.
It seems like Nintendo's end game at this point is to just completely separate itself from the competition so cleanly, that it's also going to separate itself from any services that their competition embraces. "The PS4/Xbox One supports streaming? We can't let ourselves be compared to that, so make sure we don't let our IPs be streamed anywhere."
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They're not being cute by being the blissfully unaware yokel who doesn't know what's happening in the world around him and doing things his own way because that's what his heart dictates. They're actively screwing over people. Those at the tournament and those who simply love the game. There's not a tourney scene of any kind around here anymore so I kind of live the tourney scene through these events and this is a game I spent an inordinate amount of time playing. I'm okay with not doing anything for the scene directly, but dammit at least acknowledge their existence. A simple "oh that's cool, you guys raised a bunch of money because of your love for this product we made" right after the campaign ended would have gotten them a lot of goodwill in my book, rather than fucking destroying the fruits of those efforts the last possible second.
I do not think that it is really rocket science.
It is copyrighted material, period.
Some of the streams will be charging either to stream or for chat or for this or that.
EVO usually also releases a DVD.
This is not the first time Nintendo has had issues with streams of their material, but it is really asinine.
do you REALLY think that? if so, I'm going to step away from arguing.
The amount of hype generated from their 5 minute trailer would prove otherwise.
People want another Smash.
What I take away from this is that Nintendo's network related struggles go much deeper than simply having friend codes.
It's this sort of thing which is, to me, more telling -- it suggests they do not understand networking more broadly. This is a social event. It is a way for a community of people who ostensibly enjoy their game to come together. They seem to view the development of communal, online gaming as some sort of alien force to be exterminated, and I think this serves them a profound disservice.
It's this sort of thing which is, to me, more telling -- it suggests they do not understand networking more broadly. This is a social event. It is a way for a community of people who ostensibly enjoy their game to come together. They seem to view the development of communal, online gaming as some sort of alien force to be exterminated, and I think this serves them a profound disservice.
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The Everyman
There are people defending this on Miiverse. There are people who are saying it's selfish to want to stream the matches.
did they elaborate?
my christianity teacher in new orleans told us masturbation was a sin because it was selfish; we werent sharing our love. is it something cockamamie like that?
Er... didn't Kotaku hear. If you make money in any form using Nintendo's IPs you can get in big trouble. I'd suggest they take it down immediately.
The point is that he needs to be aware of it because he's one of the few people who can actually do something about it.
THAT's why people are advocating reaching out to execs personal twitter pages. It lets people see things that would otherwise be "beneath them" in the corporate ladder.
This is basically how we helped get used game DRM removed from next gen, by the way.