Yeah this would be a dick move normally but after the donations... Yeah. Not a good light for Nintendo legal here.
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Yeah this would be a dick move normally but after the donations... Yeah. Not a good light for Nintendo legal here.
I was thinking more possible loss of IP control, but I think that precedent is already well established (though no in courts, obviously)
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, I could see them doing Pac-Man or Little Mac announcement at EVO but what a shame.
Maybe NoA asked if the broad range of options that the Smash games are know form were going to be on display and EVO told them no, it will be Fox only, no items and Final Destination which basically caused NoA to cry because that's not the image they want their game to have with Smash 4 coming out.
If only they chose the superior Battlefield.
If only they chose the superior Battlefield.
Red Rudolph
Member
https://www.change.org/petitions/ni...smash-bros-melee-to-be-streamed-at-evo-2013-2
Petition, for what it's worth. If they won't change their minds, it might at least prevent them from making the same mistake again.
Petition, for what it's worth. If they won't change their minds, it might at least prevent them from making the same mistake again.
This is truly the most idiotic thing Nintendo has ever done. It makes you wonder what's the point of Smash Bros even being multiplayer.
JBtheHunter
Banned
... huh?
There is literally zero good reasons for them to do this, I'm assuming due to previous comments about Melee and the fact that Brawl appeared at EVO in the past, that this has something to do with them considering Melee some competitive thing that'll make Nintendo look 'too hardcore' for 'casual' players.
Nintendo seems to hate anything competitive, yet their games have multiplayer modes where you compete against each other.
All those hours you spent playing the game with friends never happened because one stream was denied.
Karsticles
Member
The fighting game community is not a small niche. Over 2 million unique viewers were watching Evo 2011 (I can't find Evo 2012 numbers). That's a huge group, and it's not a group that traditionally supports Nintendo. It's a great opportunity to reach out to a new crowd and gain new fans.
That's a real jerk thing to say.
That's highly unlikely. A LARGE majority won't know what the hell Evo is, let alone watch it.
This decision most likely came from Nintendo's stupid legal team with their bullshit policies on their IPs and videos and streaming.
I am pretty sure that's a facetious comment.
Dr.Thunder
Member
...and NOA continues to make fantastic decisions.
I'm sure it's been posted before, but (SMASH - Smash Bros. Music Video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY8EoXDCk0Y is really awesome
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I have a feeling that Sakurai might use some of training method that Little Mac did during cutscene with his coach as his moveset.
Dr.Thunder
Member
Apperently it's back in the lineup according to Shoryuken. I figure this is a case of NOA's legal department being on auto pilot.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
No, it's still on lineup but they can't stream the tournament.
The situation is terrible bad but I'm not going to let it tempered my excitement for Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country Return 2, Smash 4 and Mario Kart 8. However, I'm concerned that Nintendo of America might have gotten worse over the time in future. I meant NOA's incompetence with Melee is not only thing that they screwed up with. There is a problem with their progressive with Mii Plaza update, so we don't have it yet but Japan and Europe got it.
Red Rudolph
Member
No, really. I don't usually get upset about the goofy moves Nintendo sometimes makes, but I really don't understand their stance here. Sure, Twitch stands to earn some money off of Nintendo's 12-year-old game. But it exposes millions (yes, millions) to the hype of competitive Smash Bros. and the zany emotion of its community. It shows that Nintendo supports the $100k that was raised for Breast Cancer research. It shows that Nintendo supports its games as a form of competition. It's such a perfect opportunity for them to portray themselves as a wonderful, encouraging, open-minded company.
And now they're not only wasting that, but doing the absolute worst thing possible. Deflating excitement for one of their games that a ton of people paid to be able to play and watch. It makes zero sense to me. I'm going to be baffled by this for a while, and I'm still not sure what my long-term response is going to be.
Dr.Thunder
Member
Go look at the again revised schedule. It's back. On http://shoryuken.com/2013/07/09/changes-to-evo-2013-smash-schedule/
Edit: They moved the streams around though.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Oh, they are allowing it now.
Red Rudolph
Member
Yeah, the ban has been lifted.
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-allowing-for-smash-bros-melee-stream-at-evo-2013-after-all/
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-allowing-for-smash-bros-melee-stream-at-evo-2013-after-all/
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Is it bad if the biggest thing I worried about when I heard this was...
people were going to claim Nintendo did this because they didn't want to admit Melee was better than Brawl
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
People like to jump into conclusion when they can. I think it's just legal team being stupid.
HAHAHA
Well in the case of Smash Bros being streamed in tournaments is what I meant!
I still expect stupid decisions on other issues
I hope to see all of you watching EVO this weekend for Smash. To get you excited, you should definitely check this out and get HYPED again. The hype TRAIN is back.
I think it was because some people didn't buy Brawl because they didn't like the changes from Melee. Sakurai has said that Smash 4 will be somewhere between Melee and Brawl, and Nintendo probably wanted to limit further comparisons to Melee since Smash 4 won't be Melee. But denying fans their Melee stream just had the opposite effect.
At least they're speeding things up and got rid of tripping.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Shush Shush. I don't want to think about it until Thursday.
the trailer is full of hype. ARGH!
JBtheHunter
Banned
I'm pretty sure this whole thing was a misunderstanding. The only reason Nintendo pulled it from the stream is because they wanted the show runners to get their permission. This whole thing was overblown.
Off topic to the whole Evo controversy, but what's the likelihood we get an update on Smash during Nintendo's pre-Gamescom Direct or even at Gamescom? Dojo has spoiled me.
1%. 50%. 100%. -909423958454302345%.
That's totally accurate, take my word for it.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Off topic to the whole Evo controversy, but what's the likelihood we get an update on Smash during Nintendo's pre-Gamescom Direct or even at Gamescom? Dojo has spoiled me.
If Nintendo is having a direct? 33%
Gamescom? 2%
Weekly pictures of stuff? 110.314%
Off topic to the whole Evo controversy, but what's the likelihood we get an update on Smash during Nintendo's pre-Gamescom Direct or even at Gamescom? Dojo has spoiled me.
Wait what?????
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Yeah I've never heard of that being a thing either.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I would rather have a Wuhu Island stage than a playable Mii. Seeing the Miis fencing, canoeing, and playing frisbee, table tennis and golf in the background would be awesomely sedate. Fireworks during the night and planes zooming through the sky, it would be serene and lovely crashing such a wonderful vacation destination.
Why can't we have both?
Ever since Sakurai announced the 3DS version of Smash would have a character customization feature a long time ago I figured Miis would be one of the new additions to the roster.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I am not feelin' like a double decker today.
And the customization feature has me more worried than excited.
Red Rudolph
Member
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm tempted, but how good they are with delivery? Will I get it on launch date?