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It was obvious.
timetokill
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Some people just aren't drift-compatible with Del Toro, man.
Yea I didn't get how the trial by combat is a measure of their compatibility in the drift. I don't think the movie really explained this either, unless I missed it
It still makes no logical sense when he saw it. How did he go from seeing it to understanding it? Why didn't he understand the first time that Stacker popped out of the robot?
Spike Spiegel
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It seemed to me that they were reading each other pretty well in their combat maneuvers, at least compared to the other candidates whom Raleigh took down easily. I assumed that had something to do with it, being able to read and anticipate each other leading to their having compatible minds.
That's how I saw it, that said they could have put in a single line of dialogue to explain it.
I didn't like how ninja skills translate to the jaegers, where often they just need to hit buttons early in the film. The sword play of the jaegers later in the film is the most 1:1 translation of their training to inside the jaeger thankfully, but why then waste so much energy walking? (which clearly looked tough) They should have just had an auto walk until you got to combat where you switch to manual.
This is the most nonsensical complaint I've heard about mechs in a long long time.
Yes it has to be jaeger time all the time.
Seriously. It just seems like some people can't just sit back and enjoy a movie like this with out nitpicking the shit out of it.
XANDER CAGE
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Was anyone else really expecting Gipsy to go out with its big robot middle finger in the air? For some reason when Raleigh was scrambling back to the pilot deck I was waiting for that to happen. I thought he was going to die with the robot making some rude gesture at the aliens.
I didn't mind it too much, was very campy and OTT. Not terrible like Quentin in Django Unchained but funny. LIKE KANO.
I'VE STUDIED YOUR MOVES KAIJU.
So why is it cool to geek out about every mech in the screen, who only take on any character when implemented in gifs or talked about as a potential toy you can own - but wanting to know the logistics of how the robot works, or how the characters abilities translate to the jaeger is too small of a detail. Avatar dedicated an entire sequence to Jake Sully getting into his body for the first time, so as an audience we can estimate his how the character we know translates to his avatar. I don't think it's ridiculous to want to know how that work, anymore than its ridiculous to geek out about the most minor supporting jaeger.
Its offputting to see sequences in jaeger first in the film, and later in the film cut to a sequence where a group of soldiers are fighting in ways that look nothing like the technique used earlier in the jaeger suits. Naturally, thoughts go to "how does this apply to combat in the field".
Razgriz-Specter
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That happens because people acted like Avatar was the greatest movie ever.
If this movie got those reviews you would sure as heck hear people saying "Its just an Eva ripoff"
Napoleonthechimp
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What are you even referring to specifically ?
I'm already a little disgusted at the oversights of this film, or the thinking that these characters are somehow removed from the criticisms of Jake Sully or Shia Lebouf in Transformers, when they have even less less presence on screen. Raleigh's swagger walks the first 30 minutes of the film are cringe-inducing.
But the movie isn't playing it straight. And why do you keep comparing this to Avatar? They're very different movies. This movie is trying to give you a good time above all else. Part of the problem with Avatar is how self-important the whole thing is. Way too much preaching
bistromathics
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I think mine was probably the rocket punch. I'd seen that in trailers and was kinda bummed that it was still one of the coolest things in the film.
Just read the comic and the writer's introduction (same writer as the film) calls out Big O specifically.
Evolution_1ne
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LMAO it just hit me........this movie had a giant enemy crab lolololololol
hit it's weak spots for maximum damage hahahaha
hit it's weak spots for maximum damage hahahaha
Because the geeking out, the global appeal its reaching for, and probably a selling point to the studio along with Transformers as to why it could be successful is probably Avatar. And a lot of the complaints at Avatar seemed to be unattributable to Pacific Rim, simply on the basis its lighthearted in its terrible plot and characters.
So you can bring in the US Government a cheesy expository scene to add the 8 month time lock before the program is shut down only to drop that thread, have annoying wacky scientists run amuck with hollywood science and too much screen time, and boast one of the more uninspired leads of the past few summers - and its all fine here. All in the name of monster vs robot fights, that weren't even as flawless as they should have been. (already talked about: but less night and rain, more wideshots. prefer something like How to Train Your Dragon's sense of scale, clarity)
But to be honest, I think I should just step aside and accept this movie isn't for me. I just wish they developed the characters more, and had a plot you can invest more in to the point of rooting for as a standard audience. If I liked the Monsters/Robot stuff more I probably would have forgiven everything else. I just don't like that the same "its not for me" isn't awarded to Transformers or whatever else. Even though it somewhat was in the first Transformers, which led us to 2 and 3 and the hatred of that franchise, on the basis of something we should have spotted in the 2007 film and not forgiven; as all its problems were already in place before the robots outstayed their welcome. Not forgive that stuff because the voice from Portal 2 is in the film.
Onibaba was probably less bitch made than Ebirah's weak lobster ass though lol. Godzilla vs the Sea Monster, even as a kid I found that movie weak as fuck.
chickdigger802
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You know the ONE thing missing though that i just realized?
Upgrades before the finale. It was literally the final battle for them right and all the other jaegers were gone, all them spare parts could be useful.
ALL IM SAYING IS THAT GIPSY SHOULD HAVE A TESLA PUNCHER ARM.
Upgrades before the finale. It was literally the final battle for them right and all the other jaegers were gone, all them spare parts could be useful.
ALL IM SAYING IS THAT GIPSY SHOULD HAVE A TESLA PUNCHER ARM.
I really can't push myself through Avatar. I was so underwhelmed. Pacific Rim however is something I'm much more excited to see again.
Didn't even know that was possible.
Definitely possible, just beyond my comprehension lol. I keep going over Hong Kong in my head, that was Destroy All Monsters on crack.
It makes zero sense that they knew where the portal was but did not have Jaegers and/or the world's submarines patrol it 24/7. Or make a motion sensor actuated nuke and deploy one after each time the portal opens to kill the Kaiju before they get near the population centers.
A much better plot device would be a portal that appeared randomly.
A much better plot device would be a portal that appeared randomly.
I can think of a few reasons, but they never explicitly mention any, so who knows.
Nukes have negative effects on the environment, and these things keep coming so after a while there wouldn't be any Earth left to defend.
Sounds like a funding nightmare.
Eventually the Kaiju would have developed a defense mechanism anyway, they're engineered weapons. If humans abused nukes, then I could see the aliens making a radiation resistant powerhouse Category 5 like Godzilla lol. Hell even Slattern at the end tanked a nuke lol.
Where u hear dis
StalkerUKCG
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Del Toro Cut BluRay Confirmed? Please
Sauce?
XANDER CAGE
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I'm not really sure what this means
Ludicrous Speed
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Cool
A sequel where they went to the alien world would beaawesome. With GDT's imagination there could be some crazy shit in the sequel.
Probably won't get a sequel though given the numbers so now I'll just hope for at the mountain of madness thing he was working on. Hello boy 3 mightneed to be next tthough given per man's age
Here's an audio review from Spill.com. Really like their stuff, think some people would enjoy listening to it. Me and Cyrus are on the same fucking wavelength here, he fucking gets it.
Spike Spiegel
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"Marshal! There's... there's something coming through the Rift! Dilation... 100 meters, sir!"
"Impossible! What category is it?"
"Category... category UNKNOWN, sir."
*gasps*
"What in god's name..?"
Come on... you know where I'm going.
This movie has me geeking out so damn much today.
Hahaha, no one would be ready for it. Godzilla would be completely off the Serizawa scale. Hell I'd love to see a Jaeger try and take on a real alien Kaiju like Gigan or Ghidorah, would be overkill! Pacific Rim is pretty much just tiding me over till Legendary Picture's Godzilla, for me it has succeeded. I just need dat Blu-ray.
TDLink
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Saw it for a second time today. Overall I think it is pretty good but just misses its full potential. The parts before the Hong Kong battle aren't that bad and I mostly enjoyed them. The acting from the main character could have been a bit better and less generic though. Also would have liked some development with the Chinese and Russian pilots, but I assume much of the cut scenes involve this.
The movie could have really benefited from one more Jaeger/Kaiju fight before Hong Kong. I would have alternatively taken a longer look at the Striker Eureka fight on the news in Sydney.
The big let down was the final fight being much much shorter and not nearly as cool as the Hong Kong battle, especially with the build up of the level 5. I think the main problem is one of the two mechs they went into the final fight with got almost instantly crippled (Gipsy) and the other blew itself up shortly after, which means they couldn't do much actual fighting. They were versus 3 so it makes sense they got a bit trounced but that was totally a creative decision.
2 ways they could have made it better:
1. Do what duckroll said on the last page and have the final fight with the Level 5 conclude on the alien world.
2. Don't kill Crimson Typhoon in Hong Kong. Just kill Cherno and have Crimson get hit with the EMP just like Striker. Hong Kong wouldn't have changed at all, we would have gotten to see more from Crimson (who looked like it had awesome abilities), and it would have given us a third Jaeger for the final fight. That way even if Gipsy got gimped there could still be a "clearing the way" for it and additional cool stuff happening.
As it stands the only real cool parts about the final fight is the Kaiju that was cut straight in half and the short searing on the Volcano, which is disappointing. It could have been so much better.
Hong Kong was really incredible though...just wish Cherno and Crimson didn't get completely punked. One would have been enough and really both should have been built up a bit more.
The movie could have really benefited from one more Jaeger/Kaiju fight before Hong Kong. I would have alternatively taken a longer look at the Striker Eureka fight on the news in Sydney.
The big let down was the final fight being much much shorter and not nearly as cool as the Hong Kong battle, especially with the build up of the level 5. I think the main problem is one of the two mechs they went into the final fight with got almost instantly crippled (Gipsy) and the other blew itself up shortly after, which means they couldn't do much actual fighting. They were versus 3 so it makes sense they got a bit trounced but that was totally a creative decision.
2 ways they could have made it better:
1. Do what duckroll said on the last page and have the final fight with the Level 5 conclude on the alien world.
2. Don't kill Crimson Typhoon in Hong Kong. Just kill Cherno and have Crimson get hit with the EMP just like Striker. Hong Kong wouldn't have changed at all, we would have gotten to see more from Crimson (who looked like it had awesome abilities), and it would have given us a third Jaeger for the final fight. That way even if Gipsy got gimped there could still be a "clearing the way" for it and additional cool stuff happening.
As it stands the only real cool parts about the final fight is the Kaiju that was cut straight in half and the short searing on the Volcano, which is disappointing. It could have been so much better.
Hong Kong was really incredible though...just wish Cherno and Crimson didn't get completely punked. One would have been enough and really both should have been built up a bit more.
Only if they can pull of the accents though.
The Australian Pilots were given the most (or only) lines among the other teams, which was fair since the douche son was meant to be the rival...
Doesn't change the fact the Aussie accents were horrible.
Just got back from second viewing, this time in IMAX 3D. So beautiful. First movie I actually recommend the 3D version.
Question for others: When Newt said the aliens have done this before with the dinosaurs, did he mean that the Kaiju wiped out the dinosaurs, or that the Kaiju were the dinosaurs?
Question for others: When Newt said the aliens have done this before with the dinosaurs, did he mean that the Kaiju wiped out the dinosaurs, or that the Kaiju were the dinosaurs?
StalkerUKCG
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If the plan had worked out and Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon made it to the rift it would have been an absolute white wash. If Idris had allowed Gipsy Danger to go into the double event battle they would have wrecked the 2 Kaiju and all been in tip top shape for the Rift Cat 5 Event.
Basically silly military leader ends up costing the lives of 7 pilots including his own.
The dinosaurs were the original Kaiju. He mentions how they were only attack dogs.
Basically silly military leader ends up costing the lives of 7 pilots including his own.
The dinosaurs were the original Kaiju. He mentions how they were only attack dogs.
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