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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty

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Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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the posts just keep getting dumber and dumber
 
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Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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The difference, "genius," is that they instigated that situation by coming after you. Martin is guilty of being black and carrying Skittles. Zimmerman caused the confrontation.

Surely you aren't this stupid?
 
kortez320 said:
Honestly the thing that makes me fall on GZ's "side" is getting your head smashed against the concrete.

I mean. I think that is fairly clear grounds to fear for your life. It doesn't take much of that before you die.
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And yet his injures were barely tended to.

A life threatening attack usually leads to life-threatening injures.....DEFINITELY more than some cuts on your head.
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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Why is your story applicable in any way to this situation?

Please explain to me, with some detail, how being violently mugged is the same situation as profiling a minor, following in your car, then continuing to chase said on foot with a loaded weapon after they attempt to get away from you.
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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This is so distanced from what actually happened and really the fact that you call out the races of the people who assaulted you as if that makes it ok for Zimmerman to do what he did is disgusting.

Did you chase those guys that night? How is what happened to you relevant, in any way?
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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This story only makes sense in this context if YOU followed the guys around and initiated the confrontation. I really doubt you did that, so it's just not the same thing at all.
 
Courage said:
Zimmerman pursued Trayvon after told not to. Your analogy falls apart.
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Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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Situations aren't even remotely the same. Stop.
 
Cloudy said:
Those injuries are not consistent with "getting your head smashed". They got into a fight and he couldn't hang so he shot the kid.

It's inexcusable that he didn't get manslaughter and the prosecution and jury should be ashamed of themselves
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He was getting his head smashed against the concrete. With Trayvon on top of him. The back of his head and the forensic evidence from the gunshot wound support both things.

At any rate I still wouldn't disagree with you that manslaughter would have been a better charge. I'm just saying that from what I've seen I totally get how someone in that situation would fear for their life.

For me personally the fact that the police told him to stand down and he still followed him is what makes me think he has some culpability regardless of what happened afterward. At the end of the day the kids dead and it clearly could have been avoided.
 
remist said:
It's a little ridiculous. There's absolutely no evidence that he was motivated by racial animus. A federal civil rights prosecution not going to happen and it shouldn't.
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They can just play the defense attorney callin his neighbor to testify about black males breaking into her house. Defense went on to justify profiling. If it wast about race before they sure as hell made it about race by calling that witness.
 
-PXG- said:
Oh dear...

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Now this image is just ridiculously out of line...what a horrible country we live in if an acceptable self-defense case (based on the existing evidence) is met with death threats.

If this tweet is some kind of joke, it's not funny in the slightest.
 
Casimir said:
This case wasn't about race. It was about a wannabe cop making a moronic decision.
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How can you say it's not about race when the very thing that made Zimmerman suspicious was the fact that a BLACK male was walking down the street and there were BLACK males that had committed break-ins in the area?

Please explain this. Because I simply don't get how you can claim the case wasn't about race. You think if this was a dead White girl and a Black man responsible that this would have gone the same way?

Yes, a wannabe cop made the moronic decision to assume that EVERY Black male he saw was a threat in his neighborhood....
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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Good point. Because Trayvon did all that to Zimmerman.
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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No but your situation has nothing to do with this case.
 
Krappadizzle said:
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
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I think it sets a dangerous precedent in relation to provocation and self defense.
 
params7 said:
I don't keep up with the US news and politics much, but didn't OJ Simpson, a black guy, walk for a crime which he obviously committed in the public's eyes? So how can you just say that?
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He was a famous multi-millionaire and the police planted evidence...he's an extreme outlier.

Sure, you can cherry-pick some cases where a black person gets off. But by and large, the trends show that the justice system fails black people more than it does anyone else, in a variety of ways.
 
I just don't understand people. Those calling for the death of or having happy thoughts thinking of revenge resulting in the death of another person make me sick. Revenge is never the answer. Killing another human makes you just as bad as said human. I don't know, I consider myself a moderate person but I place a lot of value on human life and doing the right thing. Those wanting blood should be ashamed of themselves.

What we need to do is change the laws so that things like this do not happen again. Killing another person won't resolve the issue. Changing laws and educating people will.
 
Krappadizzle said:
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
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The way I see it, it was the other guy that have the right to defend himself by standing his ground.
 
SonnyBoy said:
Of course whites feel that they should be able to question a second class citizen without incident. It's their God given right. They see nothing wrong with that.
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Yep.. time to abandon thread. Stupid has come and taken over. Have fun with it guys.
 
First Casey Anthony. Now this guy. What is wrong with the residents in Florida? Wanna be a successful defense lawyer. Move to Florida.
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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Was there any point to this post at all or did you just feel like sharing?
 
hahahaha Robert Zimmerman wants to know why Martin was looking for firearms or growing marijuana.
 
Krappadizzle said:
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
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You're as stupid as the jury was, then.

There's no rational way you can argue that Zimmerman should have avoided the situation, then turn around and say it's okay that he killed the kid in self defense. Pure bullshit.
 
Aquamarine said:
Now this image is just ridiculously out of line...what a horrible country we live in if an acceptable self-defense case (based on the existing evidence) is met with death threats.

If this tweet is some kind of joke, it's not funny in the slightest.
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I predict a bright future for this guy. If this guy doesn't go to jail and that chubby kid who plays LOL goes for a facebook post, I'll be disappointed.
 
Hitokage said:
Furthermore, the character assassination of TM to justify his death preyed on racial stereotypes.
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Truth.

People insisting to leave race out of this are fucking clueless on how race played a factor from the very beginning with Zimmerman following the "suspicious nigger in his neighborhood." This is what led him to chase Trayvon in the first place.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Not what the medical examiner for the defense said.

That guy ended any chance for the prosecution, they did a horrible job of trying to discredit his testimony.
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What the fuck else do you expect the medical examiner for the DEFENSE to say? Look at the picture and judge for yourself. If his head was really being bashed into concrete, he'd have been knocked out and it wouldn't just be scrape wounds. Instead he was able to get his gun and shoot.

Gimme a break, the guy did not even need a hospital visit!
 
Krappadizzle said:
I was jumped by 2 Mexicans and 3 Blacks going to my apartment after drinking at the bar down the street. I lost a tooth and had a fractured eye socket, I thought I was gonna die while they were stomping me. If I had had a gun, I would have shot indiscriminately. They came after me to rob my friend and I of our beer. No provocation and I was sucker punched from a man running full speed at me in the dark that I couldn't see.

Do some of you think I should have gone to jail had I shot and killed any of them had I had a weapon?
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It's like you just turned on the tv and saw the verdict and know nothing about the case.

Take 5 minutes to read up about it and realize this scenario has no correlation to this case
 
Krappadizzle said:
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
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The fact that he pursued it is what's the problem here. We can't just downplay it and say what he did afterwards is justifiable. That's exactly what lead to the decision we got today.

And how did he pursue it? By racially profiling a "suspicious" teenager.
 
Measley said:
Zimmerman started the fight by stalking and confronting a teenager, and questioning him when he had no authority to do so.

Just imagine you're walking home from a store at night, and some creep is following you. How would that make you feel?
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If I was close to home, I'd just go there.
 
Kettch said:
Well, the only way this can get worse now is Zimmerman becoming a gun rights hero and getting rich off of killing a kid.
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This is probably inevitable. Look how much money he raised for his defense. A lot of those people who donated feel like he is a hero.
 
params7 said:
I don't keep up with the US news and politics much, but didn't OJ Simpson, a black guy, walk for a crime which he obviously committed in the public's eyes? So how can you just say that?
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Because that case is like a unicorn in the history of US trials. It was miraculous then and it would be now.

And it's not even looked on as a triumph for Simpson, but more so the crowning achievement in Johnny Cochrin's career.
 
Linsies said:
I just don't understand people. Those calling for the death of or having happy thoughts thinking of revenge resulting in the death of another person make me sick. Revenge is never the answer. Killing another human makes you just as bad as said human. I don't know, I consider myself a moderate person but I place a lot of value on human life and doing the right thing. Those wanting blood should be ashamed of themselves.

What we need to do is change the laws so that things like this do not happen again. Killing another person won't resolve the issue. Changing laws and educating people will.
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First lesson needs to be: Not every Black person is a burglar on the prowl. Sometimes we're just walking home from the store with skittles....
 
Krappadizzle said:
Your absolutely right. I didn't pursue it. Z should not have pursued. But all evidence points to him getting his ass whooped and feeling like he was gonna die. He did what someone who felt like they were gonna die would do. His dumb ass should have left and all this could have been avoided, but the what happened happened, and he defended himself.
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No. All evidence points to his injuries being incredibly minor.

Stop posting.
 
Chinpoko_Master said:
I expected this. I hope there aren't any riots but I have a bad feeling there will be.
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I don't want to be the one to point out the obvious but... If you haven't noticed, the police don't have any particular aversion to either arresting or imprisoning minorities on a typical day. A riot will just give them carte blanche authority to increase their arrest statistics. And the rioters will end up destroying either their own communities and/or anthers.

The only people who will lose are the rioters, and the only people who will win will be racists and Fox news.
 
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