TheGreatMightyPoo
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Not admissible in any courts but yeah, I knew of this way back and it's interesting.
But then again, I never found him the complete liar that many do.
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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty
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Not admissible in any courts but yeah, I knew of this way back and it's interesting.
But then again, I never found him the complete liar that many do.
Aquamarine
Member
It's time to step away from GAF for a little bit and take a breather.
Folks. Im gonna say this.
Any woman who decides to give to give my child, male or female the "talk" will be divorced on the spot.
I will not have such a self defeating attitude to my children. Yes, life is a fucking joke and humanity are fucking scum, and leaders are sociopaths until proven otherwise, but im never going have my kids live in fear because somebody thinks my child should act or dress a certain way.
I know what people think of us.
Don't care. Ill do the right thing. I hope my kids if I have them will do the same.
Any woman who decides to give to give my child, male or female the "talk" will be divorced on the spot.
I will not have such a self defeating attitude to my children. Yes, life is a fucking joke and humanity are fucking scum, and leaders are sociopaths until proven otherwise, but im never going have my kids live in fear because somebody thinks my child should act or dress a certain way.
I know what people think of us.
Don't care. Ill do the right thing. I hope my kids if I have them will do the same.
"Everybody gotta keep fucking everybody until we all the same color."
For real, lol.
I don't know what else it will take beside this.
EmCeeGramr
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Lie detector tests are about as reliable as dowsing rods.
Yeah they would.
Great post, if all these theories against GZ are correct where is the evidence to prove them? There is none.
It was proven that TM was on top of GZ beating him. I don't think GZ was innocent in all of this. I even said earlier that this should lead to laws being on the books concerning pursuing an individual while carrying a firearm. If there was a law like that already in place, I'd be just as angry as you all are.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
It has Nothing to do with races being suspicious of each other and everything to do with being aware of instituitional racism.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
There is a reason why lie detector tests are not admissible in court.
Krappadizzle
Member
And shit like this trial that simply reinforces a narrative I already knew. Something my mom has told me for a long time, I'm still a nigger at the end of the day. Which is a damn shame, something that shouldn't even fucking matter. I'd be just as suspicious as Trayvon walking down the street, hell probably more so because I'm bigger and older. I hate that being a black male is something I have to be aware of. The fact that it actually fucking matters, it simply is the reality of this country. I could be Trayvon lying dead on the street, easy. I think that's what fucking bothers me so much.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Its like im really on /pol/
Stalking, confronting, and shooting someone who went to the store to get some candy probably doesn't help either.
Lie detector tests should not be taken seriously.
maplelord93
Banned
When I put my emotions aside this is unfortunately the conclusion that I come to :/
TruckDriver
Neo Member
No, it's the history and continuation of racism in the United States, both covert and overt, that keeps the races suspicious of each other.
I agree with this. There is a reason they are not admissible in court.
You Are Viewtiful
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I'm not even sure what the people suggesting that the ruling should have been the opposite are getting at.
Aren't you guys AGAINST the use of piss poor evidence to convict black people of crimes they probably did or didn't commit? If so, why are you FOR it when it's a white person?
You should take from this that gut feeling verdicts are not a good thing, white or black. Fight for GOOD consistency, not bad consistency so you could keep your false sense of justice.
Aren't you guys AGAINST the use of piss poor evidence to convict black people of crimes they probably did or didn't commit? If so, why are you FOR it when it's a white person?
You should take from this that gut feeling verdicts are not a good thing, white or black. Fight for GOOD consistency, not bad consistency so you could keep your false sense of justice.
That a jury returned a not guily verdict doesn't mean those facts weren't indisputable. Just means they weren't enough to erase reasonable doubt.
To anybody who actually paid attention to the trial, the BIGGEST failure of the prosecution was failing to provide a counter-narrative. They approached the entire trial as though merely pointing out the inconsistencies in Zimmerman's story would be enough. And even though there were fucking BUCKETS of evidence showing that Zimmerman's story was inconsistent, that alone wasn't enough to completely erase reasonable doubt. The prosecution needed a narrative, and they didn't get one until the last 30 minutes of their closing argument.
It's incredibly unfortunate, but NONE OF THIS means that George Zimmerman isn't a lying, child-killing FUCK just because he gets to go home tonight.
Nothing irrational about it. More like being aware.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Lulz
The lack of DNA or inconclusive results should never be used as positive confirmation for a theory. Testing is inherently fickle and often impossible.
Lysander518
Banned
Yeah, except that the verdict has absolutely nothing to do with race.
Daaammmm.... xD
It's not that hard to beat a lie detector test.
If you're infantry or Special Forces of ANY military in the world, you're taught how to beat one as are other high-profile/high-risk of death jobs.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
They're still used a lot.
They're not completely useless.
It's just not an exact science.
(that doesn't explain why psychologists are admissible in court)
lol, lets mention crimes that have been actively prosecuted for decades and even carry additional punishment to the point that they're now a historical artifact instead of present reality. Cause that is totally not the same vindictive closed minded behavior that I was speaking about earlier.
Maybe you should post some pictures of the dog attacks at the 60s Birmingham march. Totally would happen today.
Yep, nothing at all.....jesus christ
Saw this pic on a forum today. Someone wrote: started from the bottom, still on the bottom. Powerful image.
Why is he trying to get his jumper caught up in that poor dogs mouth?
Yeah, I'm sure Zimmerman followed TM because he wanted to return Martin's dropped wallet. Some of these posts are getting absurd.
Africans have been killing Africans and Europeans have been killing Europeans pretty much forever. Same with Asia, Middle East, etc. People will always (in my pessimistic opinion) find differences to exclude people by. Doesn't even have to be racial, can be religious, political, etc.
Humans suck.
Jest Chillin
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Nope. What would happen is that people would be forced to think before using Lethal Force. The fact that Trials have become a competition of which lawyer can bend Laws best in favor of their argument rather than an actual investigation of Truth over Fiction shows how perverted the system has become.
It should not be about who can get the better lawyer but about what the actual truth is.
I get this feeling that this thread is going to become a graveyard.
Oh nice, you edited it and it actually changed in realtime. That's nifty.
Lysander518
Banned
What does that have to do with the verdict?
captmcblack
Member
No, fuck that.
It's not the ideology. It's the actions of people. People have the choice to not facilitate these injustices, to not facilitate de jure stuff, to not do the things that after hundreds of years of constant "coincidental" occurrence make people think "y'know, maybe the deck is stacked against us".
They just choose not to, because it's woven into this country's fabric.
Thank goodness we have the law to help us obfuscate the truth from time to time.
http://www.examiner.com/article/cla...assaulted-on-stage-at-blues-festival?cid=rss”
Please tell me this isn't a reputable source.
Pleas.e
Please tell me this isn't a reputable source.
Pleas.e
Angelus Errare
Banned
3/5 of a person.
Just speaking as a first-termer here, but....
He was found not guilty of the charges, not the fact that he reasonably acted in self-defense. Key difference (IMO, lol)
Then why did the defense attorneys mention race in their post verdict interviews and why did they attempt to justify profiling on the stand.
People keep saying this and the lawyers themselves have been using justifiable profiling and a defense.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
You haven't even heard from the jurors and you already know that was part of their decision???
I doubt it had any bearing, there was just a shitload of reasonable doubt and question marks.
I enjoy the discussion and have no hard feelings towards anyone in here. Everyone except the one dude have simply been stating their opinions and have not been making personal attacks.
Please stop being obtuse. You know exactly what race meant to this trial.
From what I am reading there is a separate hearing in Florida where you can claim self defense as immunity from civil and criminal prosecution. Apparently they waived this hearing and went with a jury trial as the burden is on the state to prove guilt instal of on him to prove self defense. So since he did this he can still be sued civilly.
Interesting.
Including your own. Like you know why Zimmerman followed TM.
I want people to hesitate killing others. The neutral state of killing someone should not be legal.
If you are acting in self defense, there should be evidence you were acting in self defense. You can present that at your trial.
Sadly this doesn't help. Look at places like Rwanda and the Balkans.
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