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It wasn't a lack of resources, it was that the Jaegers kept getting destroyed by increasingly dangerous Kaiju and so people were starting to give up on the project.
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It wasn't a lack of resources, it was that the Jaegers kept getting destroyed by increasingly dangerous Kaiju and so people were starting to give up on the project.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
of course they are, the heroes that collapsed the portal will be used in conjuncture of the overwhelming evidence of the failure of the wall and mankind will put Jaeger production into overdrive
the things we learned about the Kaijus (thier ability to adapt, learn, spit acid, and rock back emps and shit) to build so amazing Jaegers. The old Jaegers would be resurrected brand new Mark VIs and VIIs, and the brand new ones even better, but the secret weapon will be a 5 Jaeger team that can combine to form MEGA JAEGER, and we would find a way to open the portal back up and bring the fight to them on Kaiju Planet,
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Spike Spiegel
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The Jaegers had stopped being a cost-effective deterrent in the eyes of the world. The increasing frequency of kaiju attacks, coupled with their evolving nature, had become a serious drain on the Jaeger program; they went from thirty Jaegers housed in eight Shatterdomes across the Pacific, to just four in a few years' time. The movie goes into this a little, with a few lines from Stacker about going from an army to a resistance, and that's all the time it gets because it would have slowed the movie down.
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EDIT: The "Wall of Life," to me btw, really seemed to be little more than a "we've got to do something to keep the citizens from revolting" placating maneuver on the part of world governments. World leaders probably knew it would fail, but the Jaegers weren't working anymore and they didn't want to look like they were doing nothing in the face of Armageddon.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
I think it's because I like it too much
I never put this much thought into transformers because that movie sucked balls
and how the fuck was a punk ass wall going to be any different
as a great man once said
"how am I going to stop some mean motherhubbard from tearing me a new structurally superfluous new ass hole? the answer, is with a gun and that don't work, USE MORE GUN"
Gun
MOAR GUN
Love the movie. It was really good for live action Mecha vs. Kaiju flick. Yea, the characters could have been deeper, but that would require a mini series (which would be awesome). So I didn't mind them stripping them down to the bare essentials for the fighting. They hit all the points of classics Mecha and Kaiju, gave them a explanation that worked in story universe, all tied up into a simple straight forward story that allowed the fights to be the reason to watch.
Definitely would have like to see the Chinese and Russian teams get a bit more of screen time before their fall, but on the flip side, them getting taken out so quick add to the suspense. I was pleasantly surprised by the end that none of the Jagears survived.
My only complaint was the sound. I had a hard time hearing what many of the characters were saying, especially the two scientists. They needed to tone down the background noise a bit during dialog.
Definitely would have like to see the Chinese and Russian teams get a bit more of screen time before their fall, but on the flip side, them getting taken out so quick add to the suspense. I was pleasantly surprised by the end that none of the Jagears survived.
My only complaint was the sound. I had a hard time hearing what many of the characters were saying, especially the two scientists. They needed to tone down the background noise a bit during dialog.
moai
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about this, as i recall it seems crimson typhoon only got it's head ripped off, the body was intact, maybe it can be repaired and get new pilots.
Yea, I don't see why people do that. Was the wall a bad plan? Sure. Did it need to be anything else for the purpose of this movie? Of course not.
If you are at the point of over-thinking stuff then let's do it. A good chunk of the commerce nowadays is done by sea. A good chunk means something like 90% of the world's trade, so it is not insignificant. Everything changes when monsters keep coming and attacking coastal cities. I can also see how keeping and maintaining Jaegers, which need specialized equipment and personnel is more expensive than paying construction workers very little to build high, thick walls. They are also on a ration system because obviously big parts of the economy are collapsing. To the council in charge, Jaegers are no longer cost effective. They have lost too many too fast to the point in which they maybe need a way to buy some time to come up with something else.
This is not explicitly stated but a wall is never an ultimate solution. That doesn't get rid of the monsters, only prevents them (or tries to, unsuccessfully) from reaching the populated areas. They probably had something else in mind which frankly, we as an audience can speculate about but shouldn't fucking care, because we care about the fucking Jaegers. As long as it is still coherent with the universe of the movie (which it is imo) I don't see any reason to dwell on such things.
good god come on people! watch this!
make this a success!
we need this to happen!
how's this earning currently?
Atraveller
Banned
the cheesiness of the script is just ridiculous, felt like an awful fan fiction written by 12-year-olds.
Too early to say, but not great. At least not in the US. Weekend tracking has it a bit under 40 million. A strong opening should be 50-60+ I think. A movie like this should make about 70% of its total gross internationally tho, so US numbers don't tell the whole story.
Nappuccino
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Movie seems to have good word of mouth. Hopefully the drop next week isn't too bad.
PACIFIC RIM: $38.3M Weekend (est) / $38.3M Domestic Total / 3,275 Locations / $11,695 Location Avg.
demosthenes
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is that terribly bad or just normal bad?
BronsonLee
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Bahahahaha I'm dyin
This should've been Pendercost's argument the whole way through
ThoseDeafMutes
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Every time they showed new footage of F22s firing guns close enough to the giant monsters to crash into them it was stupider than the last time. I can think of a hundred and one ways to deal with the Kaiju that didn't involve either utterly stupid wall planning (what's the perimeter of the pacific coastline? One gazillion miles or so?) or horribly expensive robots that are as large as the Kaiju. There is no universe in which building a robot to punch something is the best possible solution.
But even that aside, is there any reason why they weren't camping the bridge? I mean there had to be, it's so moronic to think they wouldn't guard the only entrance to the planet Earth instead of spreading out and waiting until they hit land.
But even that aside, is there any reason why they weren't camping the bridge? I mean there had to be, it's so moronic to think they wouldn't guard the only entrance to the planet Earth instead of spreading out and waiting until they hit land.
AdventureRacing
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If you stop and think about just about anything in this movie (even the little things) you end up asking yourself these questions. Basically you just have to go in with the mindset that nothing at all will make sense or 'fuck yeah robots' or your mind will explode.
The last 10min was Independence Day with 2 nukes instead of 1.
Other than that most of the movie did feel like the worlds resistance movement coming together to stop this threat.
I guess they could've built huge armored towers around the portal and be dobe with them as soon as they came out of there but then the movie wouldn't exist. You can break down many movies like that but that doesn't stop them feom being fun.
Well duh!
Because they can't fight that well underwater. They know when they are coming, they have radar systems and shit (kaiju are fast swimmers as well) and at this point they are underfunded and understaffed stationed in only 1 out of a dozen shatterdomes they used to have. Intercepting them where they can at least stand up makes sense.
Look, I'm not trying to make excuses for the film, but I don't see how sitting in the bottom of the ocean there waiting is a better solution. If you put stationary weapons there, it stands to reason that the effort to keep them safe and operational at all times would be enormous, because they would be the very first target, and building shit in the bottom of the ocean is not easy. If you put mobile weapons in a ring outside the rift then it's also a huge maintenance issue, and you run the risk of the kaiju slipping by you. Plus, again, they don't have that great undersea combat capacity.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Please, don't give me the "you have to suspend your disbelief its just a movie" shit. I liked it, I had fun with it. I'm not here to argue that it was a bad film because of this. I already said I liked it in the other thread, too.
You know how they have all those big guns that seem to work underwater?
They could have even bigger, stationary ones pointing right at the relatively narrow entrance, and kill them the second they stepped through the portal. Spawn camping, bro. They could have a fleet of giant, autonomous torpedos waiting to speed after the Kaiju as soon as they appear. They could build a fucking wall to keep them trapped there temporarily while they reacted. It used to be months before attacks, don't forget. They could place giant Sea-mines, utterly enormous ones. NUCLEAR ones.
It doesn't take much imagination to think of solutions here.
You know how they have all those big guns that seem to work underwater?
They could have even bigger, stationary ones pointing right at the relatively narrow entrance, and kill them the second they stepped through the portal. Spawn camping, bro. They could have a fleet of giant, autonomous torpedos waiting to speed after the Kaiju as soon as they appear. They could build a fucking wall to keep them trapped there temporarily while they reacted. It used to be months before attacks, don't forget. They could place giant Sea-mines, utterly enormous ones. NUCLEAR ones.
It doesn't take much imagination to think of solutions here.
AdventureRacing
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I enjoyed the movie and that wasn't really my intention. My point is most of the stuff in this movie was completely illogical and i agree with what you're saying. The actions they took in the movie make no fucking sense whatsoever and it does take no imagination to think of better solutions (building a wall has got to be the most moronic option they possibly could have taken
Edit: I'm not saying you shouldn't discuss these things because it's just a movie. I have discussed all these things you mention with my friends who saw the movie. It just becomes difficult when absolutely nothing makes even a lick of sense to try and discuss it any way that resembles reality.
I guess they could have added little details like those only to later explain them away with the information that one scientist said eventually a Kajiu every 4min.
Sure, and that could've worked for a while I guess. But the Jaegers were also working. Like I said, maintaining the weapons there would be a bigger hassle than maintaining the mechs. That thing is at the bottom of the Pacific, which is a deep place.
And maybe the torpedoes are not enough. Some weapons seem to work better than others (because movie logic). And then what? As soon they escape the immediate area the cities are fucked. Walls don't work
but again, building it at the bottom of the ocean is not really feasible.How is having dozens of nukes in the Ocean ready to be triggered better? They are very clearly against nuking any of them.
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Look, a lot of things are not really the best solution and I'm not saying you are wrong (although I do think camping the bottom of the ocean would've been hard to do and impossible to maintain). I think it could've helped to show an ineffective military action parallel to the attack like Evangelion does for example, but it was glossed over a bit on the prologue scene. Like I said in this thread before, in a more realistic scenario, humanity would've developed better aircraft/submarines to battle these things (and would definitely not crashed jets into them
) not giant robots to wrestle them, but then the movie never happens.Vicetrailia
Banned
Yup, building the wall was incredibly moronic and damaged my enjoyment. It wasn't even tall enough or fitted with enough super weapons, so the monsters could have simply climbed over it.
Also I really hated how planes flew directly into the monsters as well, I can't suspend reality for that, it's just so dumb. I hate stuff like that.
I wouldn't watch the movie again, but it was enjoyable.
Also I really hated how planes flew directly into the monsters as well, I can't suspend reality for that, it's just so dumb. I hate stuff like that.
I wouldn't watch the movie again, but it was enjoyable.
Just saw it and enjoyed it.
Sightly disappointed that there was no melee weapon launched or dropped from a secondary location mid-battle. Would liked to have seen a giant hammer launched into the area, grabbed by a robot and smashing a monster.
I was also expecting the second escape pod to malfunction, resulting in the guy launching the robot head back up the portal.
Sightly disappointed that there was no melee weapon launched or dropped from a secondary location mid-battle. Would liked to have seen a giant hammer launched into the area, grabbed by a robot and smashing a monster.
I was also expecting the second escape pod to malfunction, resulting in the guy launching the robot head back up the portal.
Vincent Alexander
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If a wall is enough to damage your enjoyment, you probably should've seen Grown Ups instead of the robot/monster movie.
Razgriz-Specter
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If they did, I wouldn't doubt them building a new Gypsy Danger at least.
The co-pilot was Japanese
and Striker only took out like one less Kaiju.
You are a fucking boring person.
GamePnoy74
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I have to say, I loved the action-figure-like dioramas at the end credits:
http://vimeo.com/70196332
If only a company like Bandai was on board...I would've been all over it if they've made 'Black' Soul of Chogokin figures of the Jaegers like this...die-cast and all that good stuff:
http://vimeo.com/70196332
If only a company like Bandai was on board...I would've been all over it if they've made 'Black' Soul of Chogokin figures of the Jaegers like this...die-cast and all that good stuff:
Razgriz-Specter
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Im waiting on the model kits, you know japan will get some at least.
CountertopTable
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Saw this in IMAX 3D last night. Pretty damn summer blockbuster good. The opening is awesome. Make sure you stay through the credits though. Has anyone seen my shoe?
Terrible Majesty
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Price Drop
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Took in about $53 million internationally for about $91 million worldwide. It'll roll out to more foreign markets in the next few weeks. I would think it would end up with $300M or more globally which could warrant a sequel, after the positive reviews and Blu-ray / DVD sales.
layzie1989
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I'm trying to decide whether I should see this in IMAX 3D for 19 bucks or real d 3d for 11. Any suggestions?
Imax 3D was legit
IMAX 3D for sure.
Terrible Majesty
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It used up the whole IMAX screen. No black bars. The sound was big enough that you can feel the enormity of the kaiju and feel the weight of every blow. The 3D in Imax is superior.
It probably needs north of 400 million lifetime for a sequel to happen, but who knows.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
I don't think consistently setting off nukes in the ocean would be the best idea to save humanity.
Nappuccino
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Don't sequels to well-received movies usually do better? I wonder if they would take the risk and hope that all the dvd/bluray fans comeout to see the next one in theaters.
Go all out for this movie.
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