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Pacific Rim Spoiler Thread: Today, We Are Cancelling the Use of Spoiler Tags!
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Dastardly Jerks
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Was half expecting the Australians to break out with "FARKIN HELL YEWSE CUNTS SEE THE SOIZE OF EM SHAZZWAZZAS? FARK ME"
and
"Yew call that a knife?"
"This.. is a knife"
and
"Yew call that a knife?"
"This.. is a knife"
Yeah. I was expecting Crimson Typhoon to do some crazy Kung Fu moves with those 4 arms, but that didn't happen. And the Russian Jaeger lived up to the expectations of being a heavyweight tank. He endured so much abuse from 2 Kaijus.
They had their priorities messed up when they dubbed Mako for Asia. They should have dubbed over those Australian accents for the West. Ken Watanabe in Inception was easier to understand than the "Australians" in Pacific Rim.
But I will also point that the sound mix was probably more of the issue.
But I will also point that the sound mix was probably more of the issue.
they were being stupid
even the father said they were doing something stupid, which is better than doing nothing at all and just waiting for leatherback to rape them
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I now really want a sequel, because I want a sequence with two parallel fights; one last stand against a CAT V Kaiju breaking havoc on the shatterdome and at the same time one on the alien world trying to destroy whatever generates the tear while kaiju are jumping on top of the jaegers.
Yeah. Shitty fake foreign accents always jar so much in American films.
If you're going to have Australia characters, why not fucking well cast Australian actors. It's not like either Aussie character needed an Oscar winning performance. They were such basic action movie tropes.
Deified Data
Banned
The Aussies had one job: keep the Kaijus from reaching the coast. Striker failed so they used the only tactic they had left.
Can't speak on their accent. I'm American, it all sounds legit to me. =)
ThoseDeafMutes
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They have to fight
a category VI Kaiju
Did I just blow your mind?
They have to go SuperSaiyan 2 to defeat them. Omg.
People were mockingly repeating their lines in super exaggerated accents during my screening.
I was one of them.
Otachi, fucking beast. Acid was Super Effective!
Onibaba also gets a mention because Ebirah was always a sorry ass excuse for a Kaiju. Crustaceans redeemed!
ThoseDeafMutes
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Wait somebody earlier was saying that Dinosaurs were Kaiju. I thought that the Dinosaurs were killed by the Kaiju as part of some scouting wave thing.
This seems to be an ongoing debate. I also think the Kaiju wiped out the dinosaurs, not that dinosaurs were actually Kaiju.
I have a question about this, too. I have no clue how the dinosaurs fit into all this every time they were referenced. Including a second brain comment from Charlie Day's character?
Pretty sure that's what they said. They mentioned that the first invasion was during the dinosaurs era (with the implication that they were wiped out by the Kaiju... maybe), not that the Kaiju were the dinosaurs.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Otachi, fucking beast. Acid was Super Effective!
Otachi was the best
Why stop at VI? I wanna see a cat VII Kaiju!!!
I think the larger species of Dinosaurs like sauropods had two brains. Godzilla also was confirmed to have two brains in Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
them dubbing Mako in Japan is funny to me.
why not just hire her to dub herself she is a japanese actress.
Now they have a completely different Japanese actress(awesome casting though) who has to dub everything even the Japanese thats already in.
cat 10 kaiju with mech parts as implied by del toro from his sequel plans
did i wet your pants?
Zeroshiki in the anime thread was kind enough to look into it for us:
zeroshiki said:
ThoseDeafMutes
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I wonder if there are Japanese film snobs who insist on watching subbed versions of western movies exclusively.
I always try to watch subbed versions when I can.
Newt used the dinosaurs as an analogy for the kaijus during that scene. His explanation was that due to their large sizes, kaiju had two brains like the dinosaurs.
The first reference to the dinosaurs was that the kaiju were implied to be the reason that they went extinct.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
So what was the real reason they only started sending in stronger Kaiju at the end? Was it that they couldn't send them earlier, or that they chose not to?
That's how I interpreted Newt's postulation. Life was wiped out once before and the Kaiju and "The Precursors" were responsible for the enigmatic demise of the dinosaurs.
I was under the impression they weren't going to commit any more resources than needed.
Deified Data
Banned
Otachi...was the Swiss army knife of Kaiju. An appendage and a function for ever scenario. Slattern may have tanked a nuke to the face but Otachi was the Kaiju that kept on giving.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
"CAT X" flashing on a screen repeatedly, Is a good start to build the movie around
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I find that to be a very unconvincing postulation.
Also, what was this fucking talk about "exterminators"? Was that just the stronger Kaiju at the end?
He was totally pulling those Prototype Jack moves. I half expected some Zangief.
Deified Data
Banned
They likely chose not to - nothing to support them being unable to. Cat. 4's and 5's likely take more of an investment than their inferior cousins. Not sure what that investment is. Maybe raw genetic material, or just time.
no one wants to be mid-boss
Makes sense that hiring Kikuchi for the dub would've been more expensive... and given the type of casting they were doing they might as well keep going seiyuu all the way.
Even if they had the original voice track, she speaks so very few sentences in Japanese anyway. Japan is going to miss out on Hunnam's fantastic Japanese though
Kojima never failed me.
Kanye is some what angry
RZA is RZA
But when its the king of the mecha, that Go Nagai, you got to go.
and I went.
WE GOT LIFTOFF BRAHS.
WHAT THE FUCK YA MOTHEFUCKERS WAITING FOR. I WANT SEQUELS FROM THE EVERY SECOND I SAW MAKO!
This isn't going to replace 2D Mechs. that's something that can never change. But as a augment? OH fuck yes.
I saw Warhammer, and BattleTech, I saw Evanglion and Gundam. I saw Front Mission and Xenogears. That ILM! That Del Toro! Mako STOMPED ALL OVER, and I DO MEAN ALLL OVER any female action star not named Jolie, Rodriquez, Carano and I mean ROFLSTOMPED.
You got a franchise warner brothers. YOUR MOVE. TODAY.
And japan... you better make Mako a star.
You better make Yukio (from The Wolverine) a star too.
Kanye is some what angry
RZA is RZA
But when its the king of the mecha, that Go Nagai, you got to go.
and I went.
WE GOT LIFTOFF BRAHS.
WHAT THE FUCK YA MOTHEFUCKERS WAITING FOR. I WANT SEQUELS FROM THE EVERY SECOND I SAW MAKO!
This isn't going to replace 2D Mechs. that's something that can never change. But as a augment? OH fuck yes.
I saw Warhammer, and BattleTech, I saw Evanglion and Gundam. I saw Front Mission and Xenogears. That ILM! That Del Toro! Mako STOMPED ALL OVER, and I DO MEAN ALLL OVER any female action star not named Jolie, Rodriquez, Carano and I mean ROFLSTOMPED.
You got a franchise warner brothers. YOUR MOVE. TODAY.
And japan... you better make Mako a star.
You better make Yukio (from The Wolverine) a star too.
In the final cut, it's left open to interpretation. Maybe the beings in the "Anteverse" weren't able to successfully maintain a patent portal? Once the portal was established, the Kaiju escalated in their size and abilities based on what The Precursors were engineering. Every rebuff from the Jaegers faced a counter-attack with stronger and bigger Kaiju.
In other words, it was a matter of escalation. Each Kaiju was an experiment for them.
Guillermo Del Toro summarized their motivations with an analogy involving cats and mice. In his description he said the Kaiju are "the cleaning crew, the cats sent into the warehouse to clean out the mice."
Can't imagine them feeling any worse than when that Cat. 4 just straight busted through that bitch in Australia lol.
One of my favorite scenes too. As soon as I heard the word "wall", I was like "hahah that shit ain't gon work!"
As intimated by the plot, the scientist doing the mind link gave the kaiju masters some intel about Earth or their forces or plans or something. Because immediately after, the kaiju are a lot more capable, their tactics are more intelligent. And they look like they're designed better. They said the lower level kaiju were shock troops to soften up the enemy for their Exterminator class kaiju.
Also remember in the background they're destroying all the Jaegers the Earth force has, till near the middle of the movie all we have are those 4 and soon to be 3, then 2 Jaegers left. So they keep getting better and better, adapting to their defeats.
The walls were just public work programs anyway. They didn't actually expect them to stop city destroying monsters. It seems the idea was the walls would surround "safe zones" where the populations of Earth would relocate to, to live in a sucky ass dystopian hell.
That scene was beautiful, probably one of my favorite kaiju designs
Boom Boom Pow
Banned
dude lol, did u not listen to their explanations?
The first 4 Cat Kaijus were like scouts. They were just there to push humanity away from the coastline. Kinda like, scouting landing zones, and then preparing it.
The Cat 5+ kaijus coming after are like the marines. the heavy power. the one that will make humanity go extinct.
Right. We encounter them vis-à-vis at the end of the film.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Someone mentioned the idea earlier that it was a series of iterative experiments to learn about how to overcome Earth's defenses, "evolving" the Kaiju to be stronger and more effective (see: the EM pulse modification)
Yeah its got some holes in it, but it works for me.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I think the CAT II and CAT III were already the soldier type. CAT IV were anti-jaeger type. So there were no CAT IV / V before because they exist as the answer to the Jaegers.
CAT III's are when I think shit got real. Knifehead seemed to be a big fucking deal at the time, it cut through Gypsy Danger like butter.
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