Pacific Rim Spoiler Thread: Today, We Are Cancelling the Use of Spoiler Tags!
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i hate child actors but man she really did convey a level of fear.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Errr, you do know that they were strapped into an actual practically built cockpit set sitting on hydraulics that could shift and move around, to the point that it was capable of simulating up to a 15 foot drop?
When you got 2 tons of machinery moving you about while also getting sprayed by a bunch of water, you expect them to not verbally react?
Obviously should have just been completely green-screened. That totally worked for the Star Wars prequels.
As someone who wasn't particularly entertained by the scientists and their stupid subplot, this is insane.
I thought so too. Was definitely not expecting that level of intensity.
Nevermind the giant fucking sea monsters that are killing, you know, everything - including sometimes the people who are "overreacting."
Shouta
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Cool mechas, not enough futuristic weaponry.
Why don't they just shoot the kaijus from far first
Took'em like a week with conventional weapons to take down a level 1 Kaiju. The only weapon they could use on tanks and planes would be the missiles striker eureka has. Everything else would be too small or couldn't be carried by a plane/tank to be effective.
If the elbow rocket punch was so effective, why not make a bunch of flying arms to pummel the jaegers all at once? The tech used to make Jaegers seems like it could have been used more efficiently.
Shouta
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Shin Mazinger style? FUCK YEAH!
It's probably because if you're making a bunch of flying arms to pummel the kaiju with, might as well make a robot to go with it.
also, the marketing of this movie fucked up BIG time.
I was on the verge of cheering when the very first frame of the movie showed up on screen (the definitions of Kaiju and Jaeger)why the fuck was something so basic not included in every single trailer this movie had? So many people I knew had no idea what the fuck this movie was about, why there was two pilots, etc. when in reality, the movie handles all of these issues of internal logic intelligently and consistently.
I was on the verge of cheering when the very first frame of the movie showed up on screen (the definitions of Kaiju and Jaeger)why the fuck was something so basic not included in every single trailer this movie had? So many people I knew had no idea what the fuck this movie was about, why there was two pilots, etc. when in reality, the movie handles all of these issues of internal logic intelligently and consistently.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Russian pilot has a few lines, and there was at least one random female background extra who had a line in the public bunker.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Sasha Kardinovsky, one of Cherno Alpha's pilots, has a few lines while piloting her Jaeger, and Ellen McLain does the voice of Gipsy's AI.
Other than that, I'm stumped.
actually, I agree—that's the one area where I feel the logic doesn't hold. Why are Mako and Charlie Hunnam's character (LOL can't even remember his name... D
drift compatible? the whole drift compatability thing seems to be a bit of blind spot for the movie; I guess they wanted to give us the idea that Idris Elba and Charlie Hunnam were going to team up since they were both single pilots or whatever, but then that couldn't be the case because Elba only had one fight left in him and they revealed that he was about to die way too late in the movie anyways.other than that, I felt it was consistent with it's own rules and logic so it never breaks suspension of disbelief beyond that.
Welcome to Hollywood.
Definitely a problem, and yet another reason why the other two pilot teams should have gotten more focus.
I don't know if that is the case here. Raleigh as the main character being american, etc. sure, but more speaking parts for women is an issue that should've come up during the writing of the script phase and something GDT should've recognized early on.
I feel that having Mako as such a central character, he didn't want to have other females that could overshadow her, or something, but it really feels like they could've done something about that.
Gary Whitta
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Hell, *I* was staring at him.
What bothered me is when you actually got to hear local HK people in the shelter they were speaking Mandarin instead of Cantonese. Urgh what a language gaffe, the equivalent of hearing Portuguese in a scene set in Mexico for example. Really thought Del Toro would have such a detail covered.
I counted this time
8 punches.......8, just 8 punches in quick succession without Otachi landing a single blow, then it picked up and tossed Otachi like an oversize log ready to be finished off, and it would have finished it off but it was hit with a EMP blast. And it only got hit with and EMP blast because the other two Jaegers were dead, why were the other two Jaegers dead, because they where put up against Cat.4 they weren't prepared for.... the same Cat. 4 that was about to be turned into sushi with just EIGHT FUCKING PUNCHES from the Jaeger told to NOT engage........and who the fuck gave that order......
award for worst Commander in the universe goes to
Dude, they just gave us the best 15 minute action sequence in years and you're playing Monday morning quarterback over battle tactics ;-P
They did it that way because it looked good on the screen.
Maybe Shanghai got destroyed and all the Mandarin speakers migrated to Hong Kong....
Black Door
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It is a bit strange how "human" all of the Jaegers are (except for CT, God how I wish they let that thing actually fight in the film
I know this has to be done so that the pilots have some familiarity but it's weird that they have no purpose-built models (such as flying or sea jaegers.) Did they figure all of the kaiju would be level 1-3s forever?actually, I agreethat's the one area where I feel the logic doesn't hold. Why are Mako and Charlie Hunnam's character (LOL can't even remember his name... D
other than that, I felt it was consistent with it's own rules and logic so it never breaks suspension of disbelief beyond that.
I think anyone can drift. But they also said the stronger the bond the stronger you fight so they always look for the best people so the jeager can be as strong as possible.
I counted this time
8 punches.......8, just 8 punches in quick succession without Otachi landing a single blow, then it picked up and tossed Otachi like an oversize log ready to be finished off, and it would have finished it off but it was hit with a EMP blast. And it only got hit with and EMP blast because the other two Jaegers were dead, why were the other two Jaegers dead, because they where put up against Cat.4 they weren't prepared for.... the same Cat. 4 that was about to be turned into sushi with just EIGHT FUCKING PUNCHES from the Jaeger told to NOT engage........and who the fuck gave that order......
award for worst Commander in the universe goes to
I believed they got teamed up on which is why they lost also one got acid shot in its face. The Jeagers were really unprotected from the tails.
ThoseDeafMutes
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It is a bit strange how "human" all of the Jaegers are (except for CT, God how I wish they let that thing actually fight in the film
Flying Jaegers? C'mon son. The normal ones shouldn't be operating alone or in small groups, they should be operating in tandem with heavy bombers and a surface fleet. Actually modern anti-shipping missiles are capable of punching through several meters of steel so if there was any trace of realism in this film the kaiju would have been a laughable threat neutralized by conventional forces in short order, so you're not going to have much support criticizing the film because they didn't put jetpacks on the giant mechs. You'll get the same response - "it's a movie herp derp giant robots lol realism".
Monocle
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Movie was awesome. It delivered in all the ways I was hoping. Guillermo & friends have created the modern benchmark for the kaiju and mecha genres. Bloody well done.
Third best reason to see the film in glorious 3D (the first and second being the robots and monsters, obviously).
Who wasn't though? I mean really.
Third best reason to see the film in glorious 3D (the first and second being the robots and monsters, obviously).
Watched this yesterday. I had no expectation at all since the movie was not on my radar, but I greatly enjoyed the movie. The scale of the fight scenes was awesome and the young Mako kid was adorable. Story was serviceable. I enjoyed this more than Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel.
Black Door
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Naw, I'm not asking for realism or anything; I just wanted to see some really crazy designs like combining jaegers, ones that have speed/power/flight forms, ones actually modeled after the kaiju with similar attacks, etc. Maybe in the sequel?
Monocle
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I want to see a Jaeger with a short range jetpack and slicey dicey wing-fins. Just enough juice to hop around like the Hulk. We don't need to go full Iron Man.
Just got back from seeing this. Laughably bad writing, terrible acting(the only exception being Stringer Bell), and the fight scenes weren't even that fun to watch.
If literally all you want is robots and monsters, that's cool, but I don't know how people can defend this movie on any other level.
If literally all you want is robots and monsters, that's cool, but I don't know how people can defend this movie on any other level.
Shouta
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actually, I agreethat's the one area where I feel the logic doesn't hold. Why are Mako and Charlie Hunnam's character (LOL can't even remember his name... D
other than that, I felt it was consistent with it's own rules and logic so it never breaks suspension of disbelief beyond that.
Probably because Mako and Raleigh had gone through similar circumstances and perhaps had similar mindsets. Both had lost family to the Kaiju and both had dedicated themselves to fighting them, more so than any other folks.
hokagespit
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such a fun movie. had me grabbing my heels in child like glee. please let there be a sequel. from what I've read of the intentions it sounds so amazing
Answer: Flesh out the other teams some more. Especially the Russian team. It's clear they had some character ideas for them (notice how in the scene where everyone is running away from Gipsy Danger's plasma cannon, the Russian pair just walks), and it looks like the woman is the more talkative of the two, so you'd get some balance between the genders.
It wouldn't have overshadowed Mako and Raleigh because these characters are just side-characters who are veterans (Russians) and celebrities (The Chinese Yaeger team in Hong Kong), not the main characters the script focuses around.
Cool mechas, not enough futuristic weaponry.
Why don't they just shoot the kaijus from far first
the kaiju blood is toxic and pollutes the environment, shooting the kaijus would result in kaiju blood getting needlessly spilt. That's why most of the combat is close-range instead of long-range.
hm... makes sense. It just seemed a bit glossed over (especially since all the other pilots seem to be related by blood, iircdon't remember about the Russian pilots though); a lot of the complaints I've read about the movie seem to revolve around the first hour being pretty dull, but I thought it was paced excellently. I wouldn't have minded more scenes of Mako and Raleigh instead of just fighting, then her staring at him. that would've helped sell their drift compatibility for me.
I'm pretty sure you can make anything look passable by comparing it to The Room. A movie that's at least entertainingly bad. I was just embarrassed for the actors in this movie. I guess I couldn't stop cringing long enough to "just have fun."
And it's not like I was expecting anything other than a fun time at the movies, but I guess I require a little bit more than tired cliches and lame anime "badassness."
Monocle
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Maybe we have different thresholds for cheese overload. Personally I didn't notice any of the stuff you're talking about.
NECA just announced Wave 2 of the figures for October (Striker Eureka, Battle Damage Gypsy, another Kaiju) and a re-release of the sold out Series 1 set of 3
So people really need to just wait, interest has spiked in the merchandise and so companies are responding. This shit is not made in a day and given its a new license it's understandable
So people really need to just wait, interest has spiked in the merchandise and so companies are responding. This shit is not made in a day and given its a new license it's understandable
Sorry for expressing my opinion of a movie in a thread dedicated to such.
CosmicGroinPull
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The only thing that really bothered me about the plot was the Governments' insistence on going with the Wall even when it clearly failed and how would they kill the kaijus that got through the Wall without any Jaegers.
Was that the best they could do to get a 'first and final attempt' scenario for the nuke?
Was that the best they could do to get a 'first and final attempt' scenario for the nuke?
Actually IIRC the idea of nuking the rift was Stacker's idea once funding was cut. So, I dunno, either the Government thought the wall was cheaper, they wanted to make more shitty dangerous jobs, or they just accepted the apocalypse.
CosmicGroinPull
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Yeah, seems like a really dumb idea. 'Oh no, a Kaiju got through, lets evacuate a limited number of people and leave the rest and the city for the Kaiju...' ?
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