760 die in UK heat wave (mostly under 90°), because only 0.5% of them have AC
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Not if it has caffeine in it. Caffeine inhibits ADH.
My older relatives are fine.
InaudibleWhispa
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Valtýr;71926421 said:
Most people aren't "fucked". Most people are coping with, if not enjoying the weather. There will always be a handful of people, typical the elderly, who are unprepared and have nobody to help them. And then there are the foolish people who do things like drown in a no-swim area or fall of roofs sunbathing. The vast majority of the country is fine, at most moaning a bit at work.
Your buildings are not insulated the same way, hell most are not even made of Brick from my time in Florida. You have open plan houses designed to keep cool in this heat.
And these were not just elderly, many were already on their way out. It's a bullshit stat designed to provoke a reaction, which it did.
Jeff Albertson
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You have to wonder how many of this '760' would have died in this time regardless of heat
The ignorance of some of the comments in here should be shocking - but it isn't
The ignorance of some of the comments in here should be shocking - but it isn't
They don't call us gods waiting room for nothing
Yeah, it's people like that you have to watch out for. I know last year when we lost power here for a week, had to put my mom (70) in a hotel that had AC because after two days of heat she was really bad off. She couldn't even get to sleep in the heat it was so bad.
It's always good to check on elderly family members and neighbors when stuff like this happens because they usually aren't prepared and just aren't able to adequately deal with the heat the way younger persons are.
Korey threads specialize in bringing out IdiotGaf, he was banned twice for Jingoistic Team America troll baiting, now he just drops in stat threads and vanishes. He seems to have a hard on for the UK as well for some reason.
I say "going to hell" because for the past two weeks or so I've been in a similar situation: temps approaching 38C with high humidity and no AC or decent ventilation in my apartment
I know people are different but I hate enduring hot summers, autumn is when I like to get out and do things. A few years ago June and part of July never broke 24C and it rained a lot. It was fucking fantastic.
I do wonder what's going to happen with the gulf stream, though.
MemoryHumanity
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America GAF, can you please just accept what we're saying as the truth. SEVEN HUNDRED PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE DIED IF IT WASN'T
Probably the same level of ignorance as Europeans in the tornado threads. "You should just build houses stronger. Bet my brick house could withstand 200 mph wind during an EF5."
I feel that some solid numbers on Britain's climate are needed for some people to get that this is very unusual weather for us.
For example, here is average temperature and rainfall (which plays a big part in our climate) data for summer (which I'll define as June, July and August). All of these are Met Office figures. The temperatures are in degrees celsius and rainfall in mm.
Bloody shame about all those deaths, too. Doesn't help that people just don't know what to do with the sun (especially after some of the wettest summers on record for the UK).
For example, here is average temperature and rainfall (which plays a big part in our climate) data for summer (which I'll define as June, July and August). All of these are Met Office figures. The temperatures are in degrees celsius and rainfall in mm.
- June: Average High: 18.6. Average Low: 9.5. Rainfall: 61.8mm
- July: Average High: 20.9. Average Low: 11.7. Rainfall: 62.6mm
- August: Average High: 20.7. Average Low: 11.5. Rainfall: 69.3mm
Bloody shame about all those deaths, too. Doesn't help that people just don't know what to do with the sun (especially after some of the wettest summers on record for the UK).
Alx
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It should be compared to the usual mortality in that season... it doesn't sound that much actually.
*edit : not much really. If I am to believe this page, a single borough from London has a monthly seasonal death toll of around a hundred per month.
Number of deaths by month, Barking and Dagenham 2007-2010
I stay out of local issues for good reason. But seeing how many Americans are UK meteorological experts I think I'll return the favour in every topic dealing with local US weather.
Race to be King
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My office has AC and my manager hates it. He's been wearing a hat all week, and until recently he was wearing a polar fleece jacket. We need it though - the windows are sealed shut with several layers of gloss paint.
My flat is in a converted tobacco factory, so we don't have air conditioning or central heating. Single-glazed windows, too. It, er, builds character.
Monkeylord
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What the fuck is wrong with you!?!
Oh you.
Do you want a fucking medal or something?
One of the problems is that the houses are small and designed to keep in as much heat as possible. My bedroom in particular is always around 5-10°C warmer than outside. The country just isn't equipped to accommodate this sort of weather, though that being said most Brits really do not know how to behave in the heat.
I had the opposite problem back in Australia, where the houses are designed to let the heat out and central heating is non-existent. Winter nights were much, much colder than here in the UK.
I had the opposite problem back in Australia, where the houses are designed to let the heat out and central heating is non-existent. Winter nights were much, much colder than here in the UK.
Nobody died from heat in your LAN party because they were eaten by the local wildlife before the heat could get them. It is known.
Falcs
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Wouldn't mind one.
Race to be King
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Hell yeah! You show those dead British pensioners who's boss!
Read the thread mouth breather, elderly dying people died due to heat, or do you LAN with 90 year old cancer patients?
I have lived in your dust bowl as well, every building is designed for heat.
FlyingTeacup
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very true, my room was always considerably warmer. I've been plenty of people bbq, drinking under the burning sun. A recipe for bad things. The worst I've seen was a baby being wrapped and hung on its mother's chest in those front facing baby carrier bag in the tube. The face was burning red, the eyes and mouth were wide open. Looks like they had spent fair amount time under the sun.
CyclopsRock
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My windows alone are older than half the United States' admissions into the Union. I can't just whack an AC unit on there. (I can't even get double glazing, so it's hot in Summer and cold in Winter!)
Delusibeta
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ITT: people failing to realise old people die.
CyclopsRock
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Incidentally I'm currently coping by using a big fan and a pint glass of ice, gin, tonic and lime. I'm surviving guys, I'll be alright.
The Last Wizard
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same here, I guess the people also weren't staying hydrated.
KillerMan91
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It's more about the fact that people here mostly don't even read the op... They just read the thread title and then post something stupid.
chaostrophy
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After the deadly heat wave in Chicago the city started operating cooling centers- basically air conditioned places where people without AC in their homes could go to sit and drink water and cool off, open to the public during heat waves. Do the health services of countries in Europe not do this? Seems like a sensible thing to me.
You would be operating cooling centres for 60 million people in the UK.
Delusibeta
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No, because this is the second time in the last 10 years that temperatures have regularly topped 30 degrees Celsius for a week or more. It'll be a complete waste of resources most of the time.
Brofist
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The point that got my attention more than the death toll was this
That's a crazy number. Granted the 700 some people were probably all old timers, but I doubt that the almost half million mentioned were all old people.
Just out of curiosity, are public places air conditioned in the UK, like banks and shops and what not?
That's a crazy number. Granted the 700 some people were probably all old timers, but I doubt that the almost half million mentioned were all old people.
Just out of curiosity, are public places air conditioned in the UK, like banks and shops and what not?
You sound like a wonderful person to be around.
Keep in mind that no country is short of ignorant people. Example: Parents of the 4 week old child with a severe sunburn. Or the guy who thinks he can withstand a natural disaster in a brick home.
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