Psycho_Mantis
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Nintendo should follow Sony and MS in how to get third party support.
Bloomberg; "Nintendo Rises as New Titles Spur Overseas Sales: Tokyo Mover"
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Nintendo should follow Sony and MS in how to get third party support.
I just think it's funny that you're so riled up you have to accuse people of having their feelings hurt. Boo hoo hoo
I am Michael Bolton
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Riled up? Uh ok.
Haha, see how stupid that sounds? I hope you see the irony
...but you probably wont
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thepotatoman
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Some perspective:
Wow that's an extremely beautiful looking setup for a turn around actually. If the Pink Sheets didn't have such a terrible bid ask spread, I would buy on a dip to 14ish, and look for profits at 20, and a stop at 12. May even jump in on that despite my usual no pink sheets rule.
I still believe Nintendo has some long term troubles, but sometimes the stock market gets ahead of itself and undervalues the company a bit too quickly and a correction like this happens. This seems way more like a technical jump than a news one. A technical one caused by investors being dumb, worrying about the stocks freefall, and not realizing that things aren't as bad as the price currently says, but it's not like all of a sudden this week something amazing happened to Nintendo.
One of the things you learn when you follow a lot of financial news is that companies like Bloomberg love to find an easily digestible news type reason for every major stock market move, but most of the time it is just simple stock market psychology.
Basically it's just finally run out of sellers and the buyers are starting to gain confidence, which once they start increasing the price will cause others to have confidence, until things go to far and you run out of buyers and the trend shifts again. With a unhealthy company like nintendo the buying train isn't going to last as long as the selling train, but that doesn't mean buying trains are never going to happen.
nhlducks35
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3DS is still down YoY from 2012 (not a good sign) and is substantially behind the DS in sales (to be expected). I expect sales to increase quite a bit come this Holiday season with LoZ and Pokemon, but still be behind the DS.
Psycho_Mantis
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WTF were did this come from.....smh Nintendo fanboys.
granabanana
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I am a bit confused. People are angry that Nintendo had to do a major price cut and more games (obv) to stay afloat with the 3ds. Yet ignore the time when Sony had to cut 10k staff and sell off some buildings to stay afloat and make some money back?
Boom Pokemon X/Y bye bye All Consoles.
I am Michael Bolton
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People ignored that? Funny, there were quite a few threads about it.
Psycho_Mantis
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Well you see one actually effects WiiU gamers and future buyers the other doesn't.
donkey show
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At least it wasn´t sponsored by rampant fanboyism* like someone elses posts.
this year they are hellbent on making a profit thanks to the 3ds's 2011 and 2012. if they are more focused on short-term profit, we might not see a price drop for the wii u or a reasonable marketing campaign behind every game they're releasing for the system.
however, they have been showing signs that they are at least supporting even smaller titles like pikmin. pikmin 2 got a commercial, and pikmin 3 will be getting one as well. in addition to that, it was the only game at nintendo's comic-con booth, and they tried getting it into kiosks at gamestops around the us. they're trying to turn demos into events, which is an interesting strategy based on what is probably limited funds.
i think the next test is w101- a game that will sell like shit, even with promotion. but nintendo's showing that they aren't ignoring the title. at comic-con, they were giving away free w101 masks, and they will have a w101-dedicated nintendo direct before the game is out.
granabanana
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GAF is not everyone. The games industry does not revolve around GAF. I was talking more in general..
I am Michael Bolton
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He pretty much does it in any nintendo news thread ^_~ whatever.
Chinpoko_Master
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One month of good sales doesn't really make up for all of the months that had mediocre or poor sales.
I'll be impressed if the sales momentum keeps up in the following months. Hopefully there aren't any heat waves.
I'll be impressed if the sales momentum keeps up in the following months. Hopefully there aren't any heat waves.
Their quarterly report is the 31st. If they announce a price drop it will be then. Sort of fits nicely with Pikmin 3.
Not even comparable and you know it. Sony selling off the NY HQ and cutting staff was a part of Kaz Hirai's restructuring plan to bring Sony as a WHOLE back into black and being his 'three pillar' plan to make Sony profitable. Nintendo had to do a major price cut because being the successor to the 2nd best selling gaming device in history and selling terribly isn't getting you any favors. Nintendo's ineptitude came when in their fervor to try and bring the 3DS back up, neglected their next console Wii U. Now we are here. This confirmation bias you keep slinging around needs to stop real talk.
Opinionatedfish
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It's franchises that (usually) deliver sales.
BUT only if the message and marketing are able to convey the presence of those franchises and why people need to own them.
Nintendo just needs better marketing. If only the person who was behind their marketing and messaging in the United States from 2007 to 2010 was still there. Hmm. I mean, there was a lot of hatred toward that person; but that person was the one who developed the marketing strategy for the Wii and the DSi. If only that person had been there to work on the 3DS and Wii U launches.
Overseas sales rising are good news though.
BUT only if the message and marketing are able to convey the presence of those franchises and why people need to own them.
Nintendo just needs better marketing. If only the person who was behind their marketing and messaging in the United States from 2007 to 2010 was still there. Hmm. I mean, there was a lot of hatred toward that person; but that person was the one who developed the marketing strategy for the Wii and the DSi. If only that person had been there to work on the 3DS and Wii U launches.
Overseas sales rising are good news though.
Psycho_Mantis
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Third parties helped 3DS a lot you know. WiiU does not have any third parties especially since their first party is weaker on consoles. Also competition. Nintendo has always been dominating the handheld sector unlike the console sector.
Clairvoyance
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Yeah. I'll be surprised if Monster Hunter and Pokemon actually sell well.
chertipros
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Its not like unwarranted animosity is any better than fanboyism. I'm not sure why you're acting like it is
probably out from this:
http://www.ibtimes.com/atlus-prize-...rdware-manufacturer-nintendo-acquire-software
btw, good news for a videogame actor is always a good news.
I am Michael Bolton
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It's his shtick.
Did not know that. If a price cut is too happen before the Wii U software assault begins, it will come on the 31st, it would seem.
Edit: Wii got its first price drop in late Sept. The timing wouldn't be bad, but I think a cut with Pikmin 3 and before W101 would be wiser.
All your posts reek of anti-nintendo fanboyism.
Yeah i know and that´s why it´s going to be even more fun to follow the WiiU "success story" over this holdiay. I predict some pretty entertaining meltdowns.
granabanana
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Ubisoft and warner bros with their big releases like batman, watch dogs, AC4, rayman?
Coldnoodle
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Happy times.
ArchedThunder
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3DS is still down YoY from 2012 (not a good sign) and is substantially behind the DS in sales (to be expected). I expect sales to increase quite a bit come this Holiday season with LoZ and Pokemon, but still be behind the DS.
It doesn't need to be as successful as the DS, just as the PS4 doesn't need to be as successful as the PS2. The DS did insane numbers and Nintendo will likely never replicate them, but despite that the 3DS is doing very well for itself and has had success comparable to the GBA.
Plus the 3DS's sales for June 2013 are about 100,000 over June 2012 in the states.
PS3 was the successor to what?
And how many price cuts did that need?
Oh sorry, no. Nintendos is worse cause Nintendo.
Also I dont give a crap about sales, its just fun looking at the outright trolling you see on any nintendo related news in gaming. Its cute to see how much hate Nintendo can inspire in some people. I am a fanboy. But at least I dont pretend im not something im not. You guys are as the french say 'ze troll'. See when you do this in every Nitendo thread, it becomes trolling. Its like being an anti rabid fanboy, you just try and pretend its 'realism'. When its not. Its just as bad as blind fanboyism.
metalslimer
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Well their stock has been shit, so its not surprisin the first great news in years is spurring it
There is nothing unwarranted about it, Nintendo is/was heading in a terrible direction with their consoles (+ software) over the last 7 or more years and we are seeing the results now.
I have nothing against the company itself, just their awful politics under Iwata.
I'm passionate and positive about an entertainment I love. If that makes me a fanboy I'd gladly take that badge. Now you won't ever see me troll pieces of entertainment I don't get, or are not suited for my tastes, like you do. See, a fanboy can respect things other people value, you could learn something from it.
this is more like a pachter statement and less like variety's bat signal for harmon to come back to community, right? i just don't see it happening. however, they will probably do everything they can to make sure fe x smt keeps going just fine.
nhlducks35
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Basically this.
Whiskeymatt
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You'll be surprised if Pokemon sells well?
AdventureRacing
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Lucky we have you 2 to bring a completely unbiased opinion to this thread.
After reading all this thread, dat first post.
Nintendo will always be doomed somehow.
Neff
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It needs repeating because it tends to get ignored in favour of system warz:
Nintendo is not competing directly with MS and Sony. It's a different market with only minor overlap. People who want a mainstream gaming device go to MS and Sony. People who want Nintendo pick up a Nintendo to go with their main console, and many, many people do exactly this. All Nintendo needs to do to make Wii U a success is to start placating its own demographic, which it has all but ignored for the last six months, but is rectifying that right now with Pikmin 3 and will continue to do to the end of the year and beyond with a consistent, regular schedule of very good games. It's highly probable that by next year, Wii U's reputation will have recovered significantly as 3DS' did post-3D Land/MK7.
And for what it's worth, I don't think the launch of next gen consoles will be as sure-fire a success as many suggest. Buying next gen for the sake of next gen will propel it in the short term, but the launch lineup is heavily derivative, and the hardware lacks significant new features.
In any case, nintendo deserves ire for the Wii U and the 3DS launch, certainly, but they also deserve credit for giving the 3DS new life. It's going to fall short of the DS, and perhaps they should be criticized for that too, but ultimately credit should be given where it's due. 3DS is doing solid, albeit not spectacularly.
The knee-jerk response of so many is just kinda sad. It's like going into every PS thread and talking about how horribly the PS3 did at first. Or better yet! It's like going into every PS4 thread and whining about the vita. Gaf unfortunately gets a lot of that too.
The knee-jerk response of so many is just kinda sad. It's like going into every PS thread and talking about how horribly the PS3 did at first. Or better yet! It's like going into every PS4 thread and whining about the vita. Gaf unfortunately gets a lot of that too.
Palette Swap
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If you're talking about DK and WW, yeah, I honestly don't see them having the immediate effect of making up for a wasted year's head start. In the long run, they'll help cement an attractive library but immediately, short of the other two fumbling, they'll probably be 2 inaudible games on an inaudible platform amid the brouhaha of the new consoles conversation.
Hence my statement.
Chinpoko_Master
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Lol what does this have to do with anything I said?