I think the reason those were cut was because they were stupid and useless additions in the first place, except maybe for Roy, but he was just a promotion for an upcoming game.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!
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Mario lost his doctor phd so he had to turn in his lab coat...and the fact the doc was overall better than regular Mario lol.
I honestly think the word is just a part of Smash's "rich" terminology. :l It doesn't have to be a negative thing though. It's ok to have similar characters. Ken, Ryu, Akuma etc, blah blah blah, it's the small difference that can make a character. And I want a large roster dammit so I don't care if SOME characters are similar are this point.
Shoulda scrapped Mario and kept Dr. Mario tbh
Evo agreed.
Green Mamba
Member
As a Dr. Mario main, I can say no, not at all.
There are nearly limitless changes that can be made to both Ness and Lucas, seeing as how almost none of their moves reflect the actual abilities they had in their games. And if you think two is too many to represent the Mother series, you are what is wrong with the gaming community.
A completely Poltergust-based Luigi is just plain silly. It may be a starring role for him, but it's just one small series out of his diverse history, play more Mario RPGs please.
A completely Poltergust-based Luigi is just plain silly. It may be a starring role for him, but it's just one small series out of his diverse history, play more Mario RPGs please.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Wow I don't know how I missed that Nintendo direct with the extra in depth look at some of the characters. The graphics really look improved especially looking at Bowser.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Right? Looks more like Nintendo characters fighting now instead of Brawl's weird realism approach.
Totally agree.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
Didn't Sakurai give an interview once where he said he couldn't de-clone Ganondorf now, since at this point some non-insignificant number of players expect Ganondorf to play like he does and would be disappointed if it just changed?
Not that I buy that, exactly, but it makes sense I guess.
Not that I buy that, exactly, but it makes sense I guess.
The next character on blast:
Oh how far you've fallen, Fox. Let's take a look back on better times:
Fox in Melee actually looks like a badass. A character that was once a campy stuffed animal on a box became cool. How did they do this? Again, a lot of it comes down to proportions.
The most obvious difference is his head shape. Melee Fox has a longer snout and it takes up more space on his face. It is very close to what you would expect from a matured canine in real life. New Fox's head is more cartoon inspired. He's got a tiny little snout dropped down to the bottom of his face and a massive cranium. This styling (possibly unbeknownst to the artist) makes him look like a baby/much younger animal. He's goofy looking, not cool or imposing. He also has the build of a young boy, maybe pre-teen age. Melee Fox appears to have a more muscular build, wider shoulders, properly fitted clothing (dem shoes). Compare their head to body ratios. New Fox's head is massive, possibly even bigger than it was in Brawl.
It's unfortunate that Fox will look like this for a second time because of a poor redesign. I mean, just look at the old Fox. Dude's just standing there and he looks like he could reclaim a star system without breaking a sweat. Teenfox looks like he's runnin' off to clown college.
Oh how far you've fallen, Fox. Let's take a look back on better times:
Fox in Melee actually looks like a badass. A character that was once a campy stuffed animal on a box became cool. How did they do this? Again, a lot of it comes down to proportions.
The most obvious difference is his head shape. Melee Fox has a longer snout and it takes up more space on his face. It is very close to what you would expect from a matured canine in real life. New Fox's head is more cartoon inspired. He's got a tiny little snout dropped down to the bottom of his face and a massive cranium. This styling (possibly unbeknownst to the artist) makes him look like a baby/much younger animal. He's goofy looking, not cool or imposing. He also has the build of a young boy, maybe pre-teen age. Melee Fox appears to have a more muscular build, wider shoulders, properly fitted clothing (dem shoes). Compare their head to body ratios. New Fox's head is massive, possibly even bigger than it was in Brawl.
It's unfortunate that Fox will look like this for a second time because of a poor redesign. I mean, just look at the old Fox. Dude's just standing there and he looks like he could reclaim a star system without breaking a sweat. Teenfox looks like he's runnin' off to clown college.
Green Mamba
Member
I prefer the Brawl/SSB4 look of Fox save for his doofy clown shoes, not really sure where they're going with that. Star Fox is about goofy cartoon animals and is at its best when it doesn't take itself completely seriously. Melee Fox feels out of character of the who series.
I'm just disappointed that they left Fox more or less unchanged in SSB4 period. I was kind of looking forward to a newly redesigned Fox after what they did in Brawl from Melee, and instead we got the same damn thing.
I'm just disappointed that they left Fox more or less unchanged in SSB4 period. I was kind of looking forward to a newly redesigned Fox after what they did in Brawl from Melee, and instead we got the same damn thing.
Charrettizard
Member
He's gonna fit right in with his Google Glasses.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Melee Fox is the best design.
dryuriev7777
Member
His head is the only thing that looks weird to me. It's like his forehead is humongous compared to the size of the rest of his face. That and the weird eyebrow things that doesn't mesh well with the dark fur; at least they sorta blended it out in Melee Fox. Oh and his tiny ears in proportion to the rest of his head. And those psycho-eyes thing he has going on.
Yeah I prefer Melee Fox lol.
Yeah I prefer Melee Fox lol.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I don't think Ganondorf keeping the same moveset is a big deal. It fits him pretty well. They could just give him a magic projectile or something and he'd be perfect.
Mutha fucka look like a corgie. He don't even look like a damn fox. He got corgie face man, he went full corgie
Melee fox is terribad.
Yeah I feel the same way. However, I still prefer the Brawl design over the Melee design.
If alternate costumes are in the game, then maybe Fox and Falco will get their 64 3D designs as alts. I'm expecting the Assault costumes though.
Still closer to a fox than brawl fox if you're trying to hit him from that angle.
Since 64 they've positioned Fox as the "cool one". His taunt "heh!". I agree it's out of character to the series, but hey, if they're gonna keep running with it he might as well look the part.
I don't mind the scouter. How will he know Wii Fit Trainers heart rate otherwise?
I'm not that bad, surely. I'm just comparing one thing to another and giving my opinion. I do have an artistic/3D modeling background so for me it's fun to analyze these differences.
Corgies <3
Yeah, I actually prefer his Brawl design too. His Melee design was too serious looking.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Perfectly fitting then as I hate him in the game.
I don't like super fast assholes and he looks like the red fox that tried to get my cat.
I was trundling around the ACMI yesterday and they had Smash Bros up on a giant wall projector, and then I was playing Smash 64 at PAX AU this weekend... I dunno man, I like to consider the vibe I get from the game overall rather than focusing down on minutiae. Fair cop if you like it, it's just not my thing.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I think they should've used his Adventures or Assault look, but I guess they don't look "cartoonish".
See. Fox looks like a fox confirmed.
That sounds awesome. Unfortunately I don't have many people to play smash bros with nowadays, here's hoping for a great online mode.
Adventures looks cartoony
Assault looks terrible
everyone else turned out ok,
Sort of , He looks like bolt.
Yeah, that's why I was kind of hoping they would base his design on SF643D. It's based on the 64 design but reworked a bit to match better visuals.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Nah he looked fine in Assault, just less "detailed" vs Adventures.
With that said, they don't look cartoony because Fox looks taller and less awkward in proportion.
I'd rather this.
Look at slippy my mans is about to strike.
I'd rather this.
That actually looks pretty good. Isn't this the SNES Fox (which was ironically redrawn for a cutscene in Command)?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's actually the Command redrawing.
It is, and it makes me wonder why they didn't just use that artstyle for the game. Well, aside from creepy Slippy, weird beak Falco, and saggy Peppy.
Fox, on the other hand, looks amazing.
Yeah, knew it looked a bit familiar. I wish they stuck with those design for Command.
Yeah, I'm disappointed they didn't stick with this. This is actually pretty perfect for Fox himself.
Poltergust
Member
Um, have you played any of the Zelda games? I don't see how kicking people in the face copying Captain Falcon's Falcon Punch fit him at all. He doesn't even use his sword!
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Slippy dippy
For his final smash, he turns into Wart and everyone falls off the arena because they aren't worthy.