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[littlebirdtoldme]

With zimmermann story, and the media constantly calling him white.

To me white always meant you came from(or your ancestors did), or looked like you came from europe. From spain to norway to russia to greece. Zimmerman does not look like he is from europe. He does not look european. He does not look latin-european like spanish or italian. He looks south american.

But if he is white. Then suddenly alot of people became white. Most people on this planet are white.

But more importantly what is not white. We know blacks are not white. Even obama, which by the way has just as much european blood in his veins as zimmerman, is black.
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what about asians. North east asians are often whiter than most europeans.

Im starting to feel confused.

 

[Pastry]

Latinos can be black, white, brown, asian, whatever.

 

[massoluk]

We called you all Whites back in Asia.

 

[Dr. Malik]

The census tells me to write a check on white so yes

 

[Tacitus_]

Depends on the narrative being pushed.

 

[littlebirdtoldme]

Latinos can be black, white, brown, asian, whatever.

but if zimmerman is white. Than most latinos, like 90%. are white.

 

[massoluk]

There're Black, White, and Yellow where I came from. No idea what's this brown thing.

 

[Interfectum]

Depends on the narrative being pushed.

Bingo.

 

[Skellig Gra]

But tons of Latinos have mixed Spanish ancestral roots.

 

[Abounder]

A lot of Spaniards, mixes, etc. consider themselves white

 

[SouthernDragon]

There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, brown Hispanics. There's no contradiction here.

 

[bonesmccoy]

Latino is an ethnic, not a racial, descriptor.

 

[Funky Papa]

A lot of Spaniards, mixes, etc. consider themselves white

Are we doing this shit again?

 

[Tornado Condor]

I'm a white Latino but get none of the white privilege. Hooray!

 

[jamesinclair]

Hispanic or latino is not a race.

You have to select a color to go along with it.

 

[PogiJones]

Latinos can be black, white, brown, asian, whatever.

I thought that was Hispanic? Can anyone clarify the distinction between the two (I think Hispanic is Spanish speaking, which is why it doesn't denote a race?)? I'm quite ignorant on those categorizations.

 

[IceCold]

White = most of your genes are European + you could pass as a native in Europe.

 

[Ovid]

The media made it out to be White vs. Black. The man was mixed race.

I'm pretty sure if he had a slight accent he wouldn't be considered white. The fact that he "spoke well" certainly helped.

 

[blind51de]

Hispanic or latino is not a race.

You have to select a color to go along with it.

Tan isn't a color?

I wouldn't consider Hispanics to be white. But in the US, they are.

 

[littlebirdtoldme]

Ive been to spain. People dont look like zimmerman in spain.

If your ancestors are from spain. You dont look like zimmerman.

Spain is in europe. BTW:

 

[BattleMonkey]

Depends on your agenda

 

[Dynamite Ringo Matsuri]

You know, I was pulled over and given a warning the other day for rollin thru a stop sign. When I read over the citation, it said "W" under race. I'm Asian, so... I dunno. I guess the whole fuckin world is white now

 

[metalslimer]

Its not a white vs black story. Any race can racially profile.

 

[-COOLIO-]

for most things concerning racial discrimination in NA, and accent and culture aside, all that really matters is how white you look.

 

[Wafflecakes]

The census tells me to write a check on white so yes

No it doesn't .

It tells you "hispanic" is not a race, and to choose a race based on country of origin.


Aka Brazilian, or Spanish, or Columbian, etc

 

[Minigo]

but if zimmerman is white. Than most latinos, like 90%. are white.

Yeah, but according to you Whites cant come from South America where in fact there are a lot of white south american, does he look white? nope, but there are white people in South America, blondes, blue eyes, etc etc

 

[Malvolio]

That's right, keep getting hung up on color. Just like the man wants you to.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

I haven't heard the media call Zimmerman white for more than a year now. Latino isn't a race, and the two are not mutually exclusive, but I'm still wondering where this "he's not white" shit is coming from. Nobody is even calling him white now, you don't have to be white to racially profile. And you have bigots that have no problem coming to Zimmermans aid, at the drop of a hat. The story may be about race, bu it's more about the inequality of blacks. Some of dialogue that people are trying to have makes this case incredibly frustrating.

 

[Himynameischris]

The census tells me to write a check on white so yes

This. According to the US I'm a white Mexican. Don't really care though.

 

[AbsolutBro]

"White" is a pretty lose term that covers your classic anglo-european white, parts of the middle east such as Jordan, the Mediteranean, Australia and a wide swath of Russia.

US government forms refer to this as "non-hispanic white" sometimes.

 

[Enzom21]

I thought that was Hispanic? Can anyone clarify the distinction between the two (I think Hispanic is Spanish speaking, which is why it doesn't denote a race?)? I'm quite ignorant on those categorizations.

No it's the something as Hispanic. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Latin_American

 

[childplease]

Depends on your agenda

Pretty much.

Hispanic people were considered Hispanic before this Zimmerman stuff.

 

[Tylahedras]

I'm a white Latino but get none of the white privilege. Hooray!

Don't worry, if you're arrested for a crime against a minority, you'll get plenty of it.

 

[Dennis]

Depends on the narrative being pushed.

We have a winner.

 

[Karkador]

Its not a white vs black story. Any race can racially profile.

this

 

[JeTmAn81]

Hispanic or latino is not a race.

You have to select a color to go along with it.

I keep hearing this. When did it happen? Because growing up, hispanic/latino was definitely considered a race. And it doesn't make sense to me now to lump in what was "hispanic/latino" as simply caucasian like your typical whitebread American caucasian, because that makes it useless as a categorization tool.

 

[Kyon]

Latino/Hispanic needs to be considered a race already tho tbh

Most people already consider it a race anyway

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I feel the reason he's considered "white" is because, well, white conservatives have turned him into their champion. I've noticed that they always pull the "but he's HISPANIC!" card every-time you bring up the fact that there may have been racial profiling involved.

In the case of Zimmerman vs. Treyvon, I think it also matters that Treyvon was definitely not "white", which simply makes it a case of "othering" the victim. However, I feel like the sad thing is that in another situation, it may have well been Zimmerman who was racially profiled and followed around.

 

[Tamanon]

Why is latino in quotes?

 

[Angry Grimace]

It depends on self-identificaiton. Many Latinos do in fact self-identify as white, even on the census.

 

[dinazimmerman]

I'm Hispanic and I have light skin, but I don't identify as "white" because one can easily tell that I have indigenous as well as European ancestors (it becomes even more apparent if you look at my Dad, who is not light skinned...). What's more, "white" people by and large don't see me as being "white," so my self-identification matches well with how society classifies me...

 

[Toxi]

I'm a white hispanic. Green eyes, brown hair, pale skin. Hispanics or latinos can be white, black, mixed with first people, whatever.

There is no hispanic race.

 

[kurisu_1974]

There's only three races. Latinos, Indians (the American ones), Arabs and Persians etc, are all considered Caucasian.

Hispanic is a narrower term which only refers to persons of Spanish-speaking origin or ancestry, while "Latino" is more frequently used to refer more generally to anyone of Latin American origin or ancestry, including Brazilians.[

 

[Funky Papa]

Come on, Goya, you are a pato.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Latino is not a race, so yeah.

 

[inky]

Im starting to feel confused.

That's what happens when something as inconsequential as one's skin color is again and again the center of many disputes, bigotry and hatred and causes division at a country level.

We should be all over this, it is the fucking 21st century ffs, but when even you say latinos "can't be white" due where you ignorantly think they come from, it is obvious that we are not beyond this bullshit and probably never will. The categorizations should be beyond that at this point, and it is obvious that people have moved around for decades now, so that antiquated idea should not apply anymore.

 

[Avixph]

I keep hearing this. When did it happen? Because growing up, hispanic/latino was definitely considered a race. And it doesn't make sense to me now to lump in what was "hispanic/latino" as simply caucasian like your typical whitebread American caucasian, because that makes it useless as a categorization tool.

It has always been considered an ethnicity, people that consider it a race don't know better.

 

[Tornado Condor]

Don't worry, if you're arrested for a crime against a minority, you'll get plenty of it.

Sweet!

 

[massoluk]

I'm still struggling to see why Zimmerman's race matter in racial profiling. Are you saying there are no black cops that do racial profile on black people?

 

[TheKaeptain]

Latino/Hispanic needs to be considered a race already tho tbh

Most people already consider it a race anyway

That's like saying American should be considered a race.