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[Raptor]

Sony stock should be in the red now.

 

[Mik_Pad]

A member of the Eurogamer Spain staff.

Thanks, well I'm intrigued. I't won't be a downgrade more like some sort of limitation but still why would Sony comment on that...hmm.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

I don't think FCC certification would preclude a spec dump.

I don't either, if anything that would cement the specifications, right?

EDIT: Also, on Sony answering them, the journalists asked for comment and they got it, according to one of the guy's tweets (yes, I know Spanish).

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Okay, Bruce, GopherD, anyone, please tell us if this are bad news. I want to embrace for terrible news.

The worst of all is the necessity that Sony has to make statements. I'm glad that the article wasn't published before they were contacted by Sony. But then again, maybe Sony is stalling for 24 hours to see how to spin the potential bad news.

Okay, I'm getting paranoid.

You are getting paranoid. If the news were that bad they would have not waited for a day.

 

[Uno Venova]

Already cancelled my pre-order.

 

[metareferential]

What other new info has diluted the PS4's stats? There's been some Xbox One developments that diminished their disadvantages, but I'm not sure about anything else.

The info this delayed article is about, supposedly.

 

[Symthic]

Why would Sony want to make a statement about this issue?

Hoping it's nothing bad.

But the reaction for a downgrade would be oh so sweet. xD

If it's serious news that has to do with the console, then they have to make a statement. They can't just not say anything, let the console launch, and then have hundreds of people upset over whatever it was they didn't announce.

 

[MikeE21286]

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking. Doesn't sound good.

My thought too.

I guess supply issues. #TeamLaunch

 

[wsippel]

They've already submitted and been approved by the FCC, neither of these things will happen.

Also, there is no GDDR3.

Huh? PS3 uses GDDR3 for example. Also, we know that a PS4 got approved by the FCC, but we don't know what exactly that PS4 was, do we? Does the FCC report available to the public include size, speed and type of RAM?

 

[keit4]

BTW, the guy has reliable sources, he is not bluffing.

 

[polyh3dron]

FUCK SHIT MOTHERFUCKER

FUCK SHIT

 

[starwarsfan541]

Perfect translation. very curious as to what has changed or been uncovered

Agreed, I dislike Sony, but I prefer them over MS, so I hope its nothing too bad.

Anyways, tomorrow should be... interesting. Its a friday too, I wonder if thats significant. Oftently news stories that are unfavorable break on a Friday to try to distract the public.

 

[Y2Kev]

Sony would not publish a statement on any spec downgrade. That doesn't really make sense. It doesn't even necessarily need to be made public. They didn't issue a statement when the Rsx was down clocked.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

It's probably going to be nothing. This guy is just fishing for hits. Honestly, if it was something big, it would be splashed on Eurogamer's main website right now and not left up to their Spanish language affiliate to wait for Sony.

 

[BleachAndPepsi]

Most of Sony's announcements with PS4 has been knee jerk reactions just to 1up MS. It had to come crashing down sooner or later.

Wait, what? Bizarro, am that you?

 

[Joel Was Right]

Could it also be the story about how they ended up using 8gb GDDR5 because developers were booing Cerny at one point?

What's the story behind this?

 

[UnluckyKate]

oh yeah. Send the news

 

[flippedb]

Sony: lol, did we say PS4? We meant to say PS5! PS4 will have 2 GB of DDR3 RAM. (laughs)

 

[Gestault]

"Sony feels bad for Microsoft; lowers RAM specs out of pity."

 

[Symthic]

You are getting paranoid. If the news were that bad they would have not waited for a day.

They said it's waiting a day so Sony can make a statement. If Sony has to make a statement, it's probably serious.

 

[Satchel]

I really doubt this is what it sounds like.

Sony have had their shit together from day dot hardware wise.

 

[spwolf]

well implication is that it will be bad news for Sony... very bad.

 

[Zombie James]

If not production issue, then probably decision to allocate more RAM to OS than expected. Which would fit with "decreases the difference".

I think this would be the safe bet. Still not good news, but not a production delay or spec reduction.

 

[AniHawk]

7.8 gddr5 oh god why

 

[~~Hasan~~]

Chances of a downgrade are slim to none, too late for that, its most likely a supply issue

Which will affect Europe more than anyone if history is any indication

supply issue of 8GIG Ram ?

I don't think so.

but never less, ps4 is region free and I pre ordered mine from amazon 10 minutes after it went up. but I honestly think its something related to downgrade.

 

[beast786]

Both machines will be ok, but what initially seemed to be much better is diluting little by little as more info pops-up.

was there any bad news before? What does he mean little by little? was there any ps4 downgrade before?

 

[immortal-joe]

So it looks like nothing about the PS4's specs are changing, but something about it is about to sound less impressive, and lessens the power gap with the Xbone. That's my takeaway based on the tweets.

 

[Fracas]

I want to tweet this guy, but I don't want to make an ass out of myself because my Spanish isn't that great.

 

[TheRealTalker]

so its likely bad news due to the drama headline
...

Oh God think about the children... the children

 

[i-Lo]

Most of Sony's announcements with PS4 has been knee jerk reactions just to 1up MS. It had to come crashing down sooner or later.

Amazing post if facetious.

 

[Zoator]

Why does it makes sense then?

Basically there are three ways they would logically split the RAM between games and OS: 5/3, 6/2, and 7/1. Given the rest of the hardware in the system, what difference would we expect in games with 5GB vs. 7GB? You would see some minor improvements if developers were really pushing the system, but little else. Basically you reach diminishing returns going from 5->7 given the performance of the PS4's GPU. However, you can buy yourself a lot more in the way of system level features if you choose to put that memory towards the OS. Things like multitasking, instant switching between games and apps, suspending state of games and apps simultaneously, cross game social features, etc.

Given that we know Microsoft has opted for a 5/3 split, it would make sense for Sony to ensure that their system is capable of competing on the system features level, considering they will already enjoy superior graphical performance due to the GPU and memory speed. Also consider that while Sony could always change that ratio in favor of games in the future (as they have with the PS3), they could never go in the opposite direction.

I should say I don't expect that this announcement is related to this particular issue -- I was just responding to another poster.

 

[SwiftDeath]

BTW, the guy has reliable sources, he is not bluffing.

How do you know this?

 

[GoofsterStud]

Some of these comments are unreal.

Downgrading from DDR5 to DDR3.
(It's not that simple, that's a whole system change, you have to change the motherboard and how things interface)

6 GB of DDR3?
(Again not going to happen. If 3GB single sticks existed this would be a possiblity. To gain from dual-memory the only possibility is adding more sticks, which would cost more, and the mother board would need redesigned.

4 GB of DDR5?
This is possible, seems stupid considering they made a big deal about 8GB we would of heard developers (moaning) by now.

DDR5 downclock?
Possible

Shortage?
Currently there is a surplus. The reason DDR5 became so cheap is because of this. I really doubt this is it.

OS using more memory?
Possible

 

[androvsky]

I don't think FCC certification would preclude a spec dump.

Part of the FCC specification included the highest clock frequency in the system, which coincides with the expected clock of the GDDR5.

My guess it's a site just learning about the 20 GBps bandwidth to the CPU.

 

[metareferential]

Sony matching XB1's price.

Wait, it was higher? Oh, well. xD

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Both machines will be ok, but what initially seemed to be much better is diluting little by little as more info pops-up.

That sounds incredible vague in the tone of the Spanish text.

 

[Y2Kev]

Sony would not make a statement about os ram allocation. They have never even commented on current usage. Come on guys.

 

[Mxrz]

Eurogamer better deliver now, or they're going in the polygon pile.

 

[Delusibeta]

Sony finds extra bandwidthz in their GDDR5, no explanation how. - Digital Foundry's Richard Leadbetter

Actually, five Euros says the article actually is "Sony loses extra bandwidthz, no explanation how". Or, as everyone else mentioned, the OS taking up more than 1Gb of RAM.

 

[VanWinkle]

According to his latest tweet, they aren't "Making a statement" as in publishing an official statement, but rather they are making statements/saying something about it.

Whatever that means.

 

[Cuyejo]

Well, this tweet does seem to indicate a downgrade of sorts, or at least an indication that the specs we expected aren't what they really are.

 

[ironchair]

Already cancelled my pre-order.

Damn, how many pre-orders do you have?

 

[intheinbetween]

I can see two possibilities:

a) GDDR5 to GDDR3
b) 3GBs reseved for the OS

both are "bad news", but not necessarily catastrophic

 

[Rojo]

ohh damn this is gonna be good.

 

[spannicus]

Id love to see some meltdowns lol

 

[bj00rn_]

I predict this to end up being a whole lot of nothing - for the internet to inflate.

 

[Yawnier]

Amazing post if facetious.

Judging by what he has said before in other threads, I have my doubts it is intended to be taken facetiously by others.

 

[Odrion]

Maybe it's the amount of Ram the PS4 uses?

I dunno, this is exciting. Oh man. Usually you get this drama from an election.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Finally, some bad PS4 news lol

Or maybe not bad but the PS4 has been on such a good roll that I guess something bad had to be said.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

It's probably going to be nothing. This guy is just fishing for hits. Honestly, if it was something big, it would be splashed on Eurogamer's main website right now and not left up to their Spanish language affiliate to wait for Sony.

Sony would not publish a statement on any spec downgrade. That doesn't really make sense. It doesn't even necessarily need to be made public. They didn't issue a statement when the Rsx was down clocked.

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