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[News Bot]

So it's totally ok to go open season on him!

Yeah, it is. That's what happens when you put yourself in the public spotlight. It's always a risk. Most artists accept this and handle it in stride without resorting to douchebag comments, bipolar or not.

 

[greycolumbus]

It's not an expression that he can simply flip a switch and fix the situation, it's an expression that in the mean time the rest of us cannot be asked to shoulder his burden.

I believe in a compassionate society and in redemption.

I have an individual close to me in my life who suffers from a recognized and diagnosed mental health illness that is generally considered more severe, less treatable, and more outwardly hostile to others than bipolar. This isn't to have a pissing match. I just want to say that while I support him/her and would be willing to accommodate him/her in many regards (including giving them a place to sleep when necessary) there are also limits that are not to be crossed because I need to protect myself and my own happiness. That's not about justified or not, right or wrong--those kinds of lines are absolutely necessary and inevitable for you to draw when someone like that is in your life.

As I mentioned above, a compulsive gambler cannot stop and cannot help themself and yet they also CANNOT be allowed to hurt others. Support is necessary and given, but it isn't a license for the disease to express itself in a way that hurts others without consequence.

This is the public at large and Fish's peers in the industry expressing that Fish's abuse and attention-seeking has reached or crossed that line. We can be empathetic to the challenges he faces while still having clear and fair expectations of his behaviour.

Very well put. Detrimental behavior should not be reinforced regardless of one's condition.

 

[RockTurtle]

And nothing of value was lost....

.

 

[tsumineko]

Oh so do you have bipolar and suffered from an anxiety disorder? Have you suffered any kind of disorders at all? Do you have an idea?

Why don't you go to a place like www.anxietyforum.net and go patronize them. I'm sure you'll change their minds about their suffering. Tell them it's no big deal. It'll go over really well, I'm sure of it.

They're both awful in different ways. Please though, continue to tell me and the millions of others out there what we went through wasn't a big deal.

This is what I was saying. Not that either one was worse than the other. They are different. That's all.

And yes, I have experience with both disorders.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

This is what we call fiction.

Come again?

This is the public at large and Fish's peers in the industry expressing that Fish's abuse and attention-seeking has reached or crossed that line. We can be empathetic to the challenges he faces while still having clear and fair expectations of his behaviour.

You are very right. And I'm sorry if I seemed to excuse Fish's actions by a 100%. I really don't, I am just baffled because many just answered 10x worse that Fish did.

I really hope he has someone who can help him, I truly do.

 

[brandnew]

I'm not a mental health expert but I've had counselling and Fish seems like he would benefit if he had someone to talk to about the negativity and threats flung at him. The guy's got talent, it'd be a shame for it to go to waste, there's always help out there for everyone to seek out.

This is a much more reasonable way to go about discussing it.

 

[Weltall Zero]

I feel bad for those who loved Fez. That's about it. Dipolar or not, this guy is the epitome of poisonous, vain and obnoxious. I'm happy to see him go and I won't miss any of his hypothetical future games.

That is, of course, if this is not just his latest attention-seeking trick, which wouldn't be particularly surprising.

 

[ultron87]

If it was causing him this much stress and he couldn't deal with it it probably makes sense to get out now.

 

[Rulp]

Very unfortunate. FEZ was excellent. Also a lot of the comments here are very childish.

 

[Donthizz#]

he's going to come back, don't worry people.

 

[njean777]

There's a key difference here. Christian Bale apologized.

We cannot blame him for his actions, he has a mental disorder /eyeroll. No apologies needed.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

That's what this hatestorm is really all about, isn't it?

His shitty behaviour? Um.. yes?

 

[orznge]

Why do you wish him to stop making games? Because he says dumb stuff on Twitter?

yes

 

[liezryou]

It's a publicity stunt. There's no way he's going to get any decent amount of money in any other industry. He will come back.

 

[shadyspace]

Wow, this comment:



That took a quick turn.

And this is from who?

 

[brandnew]

I seriously hope you are being sarcastic on the first part of your sentence. Go to Off Topic, you'll see plenty of people who know about the topic. Jesus.

This thread*

 

[Have a Nice Day]

 

[Nokterian]

Wow, this comment:



That took a quick turn.

wow who said this?

 

[Metallix87]

Come on man, stop acting like a "disorder" is not a big deal. Unless you do in fact know about anxiety/bi-polar beyond seeing it in movies or television, don't trivialize it. Mental illness is a really complicated thing that people who haven't studied or experienced it have no business criticizing.

Saying he has any sort of mental illness at all is already a pretty big assumption that shouldn't be thrown around so easily.

1.) Apparently, Fish is the one who alluded to himself having said disorder.

2.) I never said or even suggested it's not a big deal, but the point is, it's unacceptable for him to say whatever the heck he wants, insult many people, and then use his disorder as an excuse for said behavior.

3.) I know plenty about bipolar disorder and anxiety.

 

[Jackpot]

It's just too bad a game is being cancelled essentially because of internet drama.

Be well, Phil.

If it ever existed.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

My friend and I were talking about him earlier. Neither of us have played Fez, nor have I talked about him before. We were making fun of his facial hair.

Sorry for getting Fez 2 cancelled, guys.

 

[quickwhips]

The problem with Phil Fish is that when your famous you need to watch what you say more than ever on twitter. He acts cocky and makes me not want to support him. I really like notch from everything i have seen him say. Now who knows if he has some terrible things he has said yet that might change my mind.

 

[Endo Punk]

They guy made an ass of himself in numerous occasions and didn't understand their are consequences to his actions. Not that I cared but the fact he left instead of dialing it back shows the kind of ego he has. Anyway best of luck with whatever he does next and hopefully he learns to be a bit civil as well.

 

[Gxgear]

Couldn't he have waited until after a PS3/Vita port...

 

[Secret Fawful]

You don't even know the definition of "tact", so I'm amazed you've been campaigning against your own idea of it since this story broke.

Relevant posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73241296&postcount=921
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73246861&postcount=1014
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73239861&postcount=892

Fish has always been 'brutally honest' with his words, and people have responded in kind. Why is he the special snowflake that must be protected?

...

Yes, because I tried to hide that, instead of discussing it with forum members in a rational, respectful discussion on the subject. You know, where they didn't use it against me and use it to paint me as an idiot. But whatever, guess that's out the door now.

Just like I am. Good job.

 

[Riposte]

Very unfortunate. FEZ was excellent. Also a lot of the comments here are very childish.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73255566&postcount=666

I mean...

 

[Andronicus]

This is dumb. Someone make him delete his twitter.

 

[Alienous]

Yeah, this is Phil Fish.

Wants all of the attention, and none of the criticism that naturally comes with it.

He made a game. He's had his say. Now he can go.

 

[BosSin]

I honestly don't care. Fez was good, but there are better games out there

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

and all because of overreacting gamers, such a shame

He brought it on himself. Despite making a pretty cool game.

 

[Grisby]

Fez wasn't a life changing experience but it was an enjoyable game. Shame, as I was wondering what direction Fish was going with the sequel.

On another hand maybe this will be good for him. Too bad he couldn't be the bigger man on a lot of those ridiculous twitter comments instead of responding with asinine comments of his own.

 

[Metallix87]

See? Attention whore. It's sickening, really.

 

[balohna]

How employable is he though, really? He worked at Ubisoft and hated it, he's no longer enjoying "you have complete creative and financial freedom to make whatever game you want". I guess he can probably go back to school or start investing his FEZ dollars or something. He's bought himself some time to figure out what he wants to do with his life.

 

[Spongebob]

Unfortunate. I wish him well on his next endeavors.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I am now following Mr.Fish. Well done.

 

[Spitz]

Sad news for me Fez is one of the best gaming experience i ever had.

 

[Hagi]

Wow, this comment:



That took a quick turn.

Now this is really fucked up but it's okay cause the guy is an asshole.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

"Return evil with evil." Disgusting.

Good advice, Phil should have followed it.

 

[Refreshment.01]

Oh man, please don't do it Phil.

Dude's fishing for attention. Don't worry.

Can someone recap the whole deal?

 

[tsumineko]

Yes, you are, or at the very least trying to play up his bipolar disorder as a means to excuse his behavior. There's treatment for his disorder, and if he chooses not to seek it or it's not entirely effective for him, then he should stay away from public forums like interviews and Twitter. Sorry, but that's the simple truth. He's a narcissist and an attention whore, and quite frankly, he doesn't deserve to be defended after some of the comments he's made in the past.

I never even mentioned him. I was talking about Bipolar.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Some day somebody will write something worth reading on twitter. What a waste.

 

[brandnew]

2.) I never said or even suggested it's not a big deal, but the point is, it's unacceptable for him to say whatever the heck he wants, insult many people, and then use his disorder as an excuse for said behavior.

Did Phil himself ever use mental illness as an excuse for the way he acts? I think it's mostly message boards that do that.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Truly unfortunate. While I haven't played Fez, I find Phil fascinating after I watched Indie game the movie. He is one of those rare instances of a person with strong opinions who isn't afraid to speak his mind.

And this is what I like about him. While other bash people for not being straight about there opinions, here's one who does it..In a somewhat fashion that not everyone likes but is straight about it nonetheless

 

[Sami+]

What a god damn child.

 

[Oersted]

So it's totally ok to go open season on him!

Never said that. Never will. My point is, that he could risen awareness. Most people just saw him acting like a complete asshole.He could have shown there is a reason.

 

[Robot Pants]

Some day somebody will write something worth reading on twitter.

Don't count on it.

 

[orznge]

futurama fucking sucks lol

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Godspeed.

 

[Metallix87]

Did Phil himself ever use mental illness as an excuse for the way he acts? I think it's mostly message boards that do that.

The point is, people are using the disorder to try to push the blame for this situation off of him and onto Beer, the gaming journalists, and the community. This is unacceptable.

 

[TheExodu5]

Phil Fish is a child. He throws a fit every day and wonders why people are hostile towards him.

I am not overly sympathetic towards his situation as I see him as the instigator in all of this.